Evolution/Pre-evolution Speculation

[piefara]

Originally Posted by Jake♫

I don't really see either of those happening. Arbok is kind of established how it is, and if they gave Seviper an evolution they'd have to give on to Zangoose as well, since they're a pair. Zangoose is already strong enough as it is, so I'm just not seeing it.

a lot of pair pokemon have had one evolve and the other not, like the jynx magmar electabuzz but i think jynx didn't get an evo for a reason that would be so broken blizzard + jynx = x_x

Originally Posted by Jake♫

If anything I think Weezing is fine as it is, there's no real need for an evolution and adding some sort of third...head-thing would just look awkward on it. If it were to happen, I'd also expect to see a Muk evolution, but what can a pile of goop really evolve into?

more goop!
what would be the difference between grimer and muk?

[legendhunter14]

Originally Posted by piefara

a lot of pair pokemon have had one evolve and the other not, like the jynx magmar electabuzz but i think jynx didn't get an evo for a reason that would be so broken blizzard + jynx = x_x

Jynx, Electabuzz and Magmar weren't a pair. They are seen as counterparts by fans but they are NOT paired or whatever. Just like Miltank & Tauros, Scyther & Pinsir, Mantine & Skarmory. Official paired Pokémon are for example: Plusle & Minun, Lunatone & Solrock.

[Twilight Sky]

a lot of pair pokemon have had one evolve and the other not, like the jynx magmar electabuzz but i think jynx didn't get an evo for a reason that would be so broken blizzard + jynx = x_x

Jynx would only be broken in Hail teams, which truth be told, I don't think they're really that common anymore anyways. I imagine it's evo's base speed would be something around 120, which I agree would be kind of pushing it, but Jynx was always kind of a frail Pokemon anyway, and I don't see that changing much(if at all) with it's evolution. It'd just be a glass cannon if anything.

[jog5454]

Sudowoodo evolution? It feels to me like that the bonsley/sudowoodo was just uncomplete. I feel like Sudowoodo is more of a middle stage pokemon and should have an evolution after him. Any thoughts? Also the Slugma/Magcargo one too. I feel as if Magcargo is a middle stage in that one and needs one more evolution.

[Twilight Sky]

Originally Posted by jog5454

Sudowoodo evolution? It feels to me like that the bonsley/sudowoodo was just uncomplete. I feel like Sudowoodo is more of a middle stage pokemon and should have an evolution after him. Any thoughts? Also the Slugma/Magcargo one too. I feel as if Magcargo is a middle stage in that one and needs one more evolution.

Sudowoodo...hm....it would actually be pretty interesting if it was given an evolution, though I imagine it wouldn't make too much of a difference as to where it is now. It's kind of a shame because Sudo is kind of a cool Pokemon, but the problem lies that it's actually too slow to do anything. u_u Same problem with Slugma/Magcargo, except 4x ground as well as 4x water weak. I don't see that going away with it's evolution, and unless Magcargo's evo beefs up on the offenses, I don't see it being any more threatening, either. D:

[jog5454]

Originally Posted by Twilight Sky

Sudowoodo...hm....it would actually be pretty interesting if it was given an evolution, though I imagine it wouldn't make too much of a difference as to where it is now. It's kind of a shame because Sudo is kind of a cool Pokemon, but the problem lies that it's actually too slow to do anything. u_u Same problem with Slugma/Magcargo, except 4x ground as well as 4x water weak. I don't see that going away with it's evolution, and unless Magcargo's evo beefs up on the offenses, I don't see it being any more threatening, either. D:

My idea for the Sudowoodo one is well to me he always seemed like a want to be rock/grass type. So I was thinking make him look a little more like a tree in a way with huge stones/boulders for feet. Just little things like that.

What about a Relicanth evolution???

[Magmaruby and Aquasapphire]

Originally Posted by jog5454

My idea for the Sudowoodo one is well to me he always seemed like a want to be rock/grass type. So I was thinking make him look a little more like a tree in a way with huge stones/boulders for feet. Just little things like that.

What about a Relicanth evolution???

I don't think Relicanth will ever evolve due to it being based on a living fossil that hasn't evolved irc from the times of when beasts roamed the earth.

Also dinosaurs were born from eggs, and some of them were quite large...so those who say it seems odd it's not really,especially for those based on dinosaurs/dragons. What's odd is imagining a 10-16 year old carrying that thing around...maybe the eggs are super compressed like the pokeballs which may explain why pokemon usually don't mind being stuck in them as it may be natural for them.

[Twilight Sky]

I actually never noticed this until now, but having an evolution for Altaria would actually be pretty nice! I think that it's evo could finally put it on par with other high-tier dragon-types, and I don't think it'll be too powerful~!

[Zorua4Ever]

I think they will have a Pinsir and heracross Pre-evolution. Heracross' Pre-evo will be called Crysscross and I forgot the name of pinsirs. I think it will be revealed on March 15th

[Miss Doronjo]

Speaking of things that need evo's, why not some pokemon that could use pre-evolutions as well? I'll start by posting the list of everything banned in Little Cup:

Carvanha
Meditite
Gligar
Scyther
Sneasel
Tangela
Vulpix
Yanma

The few that jump out at me are mons that originally never evolved such as Gligar and Sneasel, Scyther, Tangela, and Yanma. Giving all of these pre-evolutions would assist in putting them in Little Cup with a reasonable BST. I would also say Skarmory has long needed one as well since its pair Mantine got one in gen 4, not too late to fix this stuff.

Plus some of them would be incredibly adorable and egg mons have always been interesting in how they can expand the movepool but exclude attacks stuck in the past generation. The lack of expanding existing mons is something that really bugged me about gen 5, so here is hoping they do add some more.

[D Dog master of war]

Give Jynx a new evolution already

[Sabrewulf238]

I feel like Camerupt deserves an evolution of some kind.

Numel is one of my favourite pokemon but I've never been that crazy about his evolution, well at the very least it would be hard to live up to the awesomeness that is Numel.

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire

I don't think Relicanth will ever evolve due to it being based on a living fossil that hasn't evolved irc from the times of when beasts roamed the earth.

This is a huge stretch but they could always introduce an evolution method that ignores this completely. Like DNA manipulation as one example.

[Twilight Sky]

Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238

I feel like Camerupt deserves an evolution of some kind.

I was thinking about this, actually! I was pretty unsure about Camerupt having an evolution, since it's pretty powerful when used correctly, but it definitely wouldn't hurt. Though I don't think it'll make much of a difference since Camerupt is still kind of slow, but maybe it'll be bulkier? That's something I'd hope for, anyway.

[XanderO]

Originally Posted by Jake♫

It's a REALLY big egg =P

But that would actually make physiological sense. It does seem weird something like Onix who is a gargantuan Pokémon hatches from an egg. Then again, Snorlax can too (even with Munchlax), so who knows really =P

All the eggs are the same size and the Pokemon "Evolve" from the eggs when they hatch. Both Anime and games sorta show this, so size of the Pokemon that hatches isn't relevant to getting new baby Pokemon. Some Pokemon are smaller than the eggs they hatch from, such as Joltik.

[Jake♫]

Originally Posted by XanderO

All the eggs are the same size and the Pokemon "Evolve" from the eggs when they hatch. Both Anime and games sorta show this, so size of the Pokemon that hatches isn't relevant to getting new baby Pokemon. Some Pokemon are smaller than the eggs they hatch from, such as Joltik.

...It was a joke. However I've never really seen it in the games (since it kind of just flashes the whole screen white and then reveals the Pokémon), but if the Anime shows it like that (since I have no clue on that aspect) then that makes sense.

[Twilight Sky]

Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo

Speaking of things that need evo's, why not some pokemon that could use pre-evolutions as well? I'll start by posting the list of everything banned in Little Cup:

Would it be okay if Lickitung got a pre-evolution as well? o:

[Munchlax11]

Originally Posted by Twilight Sky

Would it be okay if Lickitung got a pre-evolution as well? o:

I think that would be pretty interesting and it would probably be a pretty cool design too, but I feel like they are done with the Lickitung line. :/ I think if they were going to make a Lickitung pre evolution they would have done so in gen 4... but who knows it could happen.

[Jake♫]

Originally Posted by Munchlax11

I think that would be pretty interesting and it would probably be a pretty cool design too, but I feel like they are done with the Lickitung line. :/ I think if they were going to make a Lickitung pre evolution they would have done so in gen 4... but who knows it could happen.

Yeah, there's no real reason for it to get a pre-evolution anyways, it doesn't really need it at all. However I would love to see an evolution for Sabeleye. It's stats are pretty much pathetic and all it has going on for it is its typing and Prankster, which isn't really much when it can get taken down by two mildly strong attacks from anything decent.

[.Aero]

I can see Sableye and Mawile getting evolutions (and possibly pre-evolutions) this generation, but only together since they're were a "pair" in RSE (version exclusives found int he same area I mean). It would be neat to get both of their evolutions because Sableye has that interesting typing with Prankster (and he's already pretty decent, but with better stats I'd be interested how he'd affect the metagame). As for Mawile, I feel with better attack and speed it could be a pretty decent sweeper with Life Orb / Sheer Force combo in lower tiers.

[Forever]

Originally Posted by Munchlax11

I think that would be pretty interesting and it would probably be a pretty cool design too, but I feel like they are done with the Lickitung line. :/ I think if they were going to make a Lickitung pre evolution they would have done so in gen 4... but who knows it could happen.

Yeah I pretty much agree. In fact I thought Lickilicky was a pre-evolution... shows how much I knew before competitive! But yeah, I think they're over that line and should move onto something new~~

[Archeops12354]

Originally Posted by .Aero

I can see Sableye and Mawile getting evolutions (and possibly pre-evolutions) this generation, but only together since they're were a "pair" in RSE (version exclusives found int he same area I mean). It would be neat to get both of their evolutions because Sableye has that interesting typing with Prankster (and he's already pretty decent, but with better stats I'd be interested how he'd affect the metagame). As for Mawile, I feel with better attack and speed it could be a pretty decent sweeper with Life Orb / Sheer Force combo in lower tiers.

I don't think Sableye and Mawile will get pre-evolution, they both are already pretty weak and do not need a further weaker form. What they DO need is an evolution, I couldn't care less for Mawile, but I have always liked Sableye and I believe it deserves an evolution.

[Forever]

Originally Posted by Archeops12354

I don't think Sableye and Mawile will get pre-evolution, they both are already pretty weak and do not need a further weaker form. What they DO need is an evolution, I couldn't care less for Mawile, but I have always liked Sableye and I believe it deserves an evolution.

But if it did get an evolution, something w/o any super effective attacks ever on it WOULD have eviolite... :(

[Twilight Sky]

Agreeing with Nica here. :x Sableye is not necessarily frail by any means(50/75/65 might look stupid but it takes hits like a champ more than you would think), and with will-o-wisp as well as calm mind in it's disposal, who knows how dangerous it's evolution might be. x_x Not to mention Sableye with eviolite is something I'd rather avoid, personally, since that thing can also recover damage off, too...

[Forever]

As well as that it also has Prankster which makes it a lot worse than just having no weaknesses, so eviolite makes it even worse than that lmao.

[Twilight Sky]

Also, I'm thinking Absol should have a cute little pre-evo. :3 I'm thinking it'd be kinda adorable, yeah~?

...Not sure about an evo for it since it's attack is ridiculously high, but then again that hasn't stopped Pokemon like Rhyhorn from evolving into Rhyperior, so I guess it stands to reason that maybe its time Absol should have an evo, too?