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Quote originally posted by Rayquaza 97:
How about a Sandslash evolution? GF seem to be focusing on gen 1 so far (Eevee and Mewtwo) so why not? It has Okay stats but they could definitely be improved upon. It's movepool isn't great and, lets face it, it isn't in general. There's definitely a LOT of room for improvement in this Pokemon. Imagine how cool it would look!
Agreed! I'm actually curious as to what Sandslash would be like with an evo. No doubt a heck of a lot stronger and bulkier, but I don't see speed improving much anytime soon. Of course, Sandslash isn't really a Poke that's made to be fast by any means, so I'm fine with that! It's weaknesses are perhaps a bit too glaringly obvious and common however, so that's definitely quite a bit of a concern. .___. I don't even think adding a secondary steel type would be enough, because it would be adding more weaknesses (fire/fighting/ground) that really wouldn't be worth having in the first place.
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Simple ground would be enough, and maybe they'll boost it's speed to actually get an attack past.
Also for the Dugtrio evolution, maybe they could evolve it into something we don't imagine, sort of like Torchic to Blaziken or Oshawott to Samurot.
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Quote originally posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire:
Simple ground would be enough, and maybe they'll boost it's speed to actually get an attack past.
Also for the Dugtrio evolution, maybe they could evolve it into something we don't imagine, sort of like Torchic to Blaziken or Oshawott to Samurot.
i really hope that if they make a dugtrio it would sothing more creative then a nine diglets, like what they did to magneton
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i really hope that if they make a dugtrio it would sothing more creative then a nine diglets, like what they did to magneton
Well Magneton is basically the three Magnemites fused together into one unit, literally. Sooo...Maybe Dugtrio's evo will be one enormous, one-eyed Diglet .-.
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Well Magneton is basically the three Magnemites fused together into one unit, literally. Sooo...Maybe Dugtrio's evo will be one enormous, one-eyed Diglet .-.
i really hope that if there is a dugtrio evolution we will see this thing's whole body
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Quote originally posted by WeightyWillBill:
Hoping to get an evolution for each of the following (I know this is a bit much to ask for):
-Qwilfish
-Grumpig
-Camerupt
-Primeape
-Chimecho
-Farfetch'd
-Sandslash
-Mightyena
-Sunflora
-Banette
-Electrode
-Ariados
-Ledian
-Skarmory
-Mantine
-Heatmor
-Durant
-Beheeyem

Mostly I just want a Mightyena evolution because I love that thing. There are many Pokemon who would make sense to have a pre-evolution, but I'm not a big fan of pre-evos anyway.
It's not really a lot, the 4th gen had 22 new pokemon which were evolutions of older pokemon. (That's not even counting the baby forms of older pokemon...)

We could easily see a similar number of older pokemon evolving again.
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i really hope that if there is a dugtrio evolution we will see this thing's whole body
It's an amusing thought, but kind of unlikely. xD; We've never seen Dugtrio's whole body, so chances are, it's evo would be just as obscure, even if their heads are....fused awkwardly. .___.
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I'm hoping they'll be more creative with it and make the fusion more like Metagross, they link up in other pieces of the body like maybe two of them become hands sort of like with Hydreigon.
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Old May 4th, 2013 (11:50 AM). Edited May 30th, 2013 by MiloticFan.
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I thought I'd just run through all the ideas I've had for evolutions and pre-evolutions of old Pokémon! I would like to see Game Freak refine and develop previous Pokémon as well as introducing many more creatures this generation. I posted something similar on a previous thread, but this post makes a lot more sense here. These are my ideas:

- It would be nice if Vulpix got a pre-evolution! Name and design suggestions would be cool!
- A water/psychic evolution to Golduck would be nice too! Maybe a purple colour, with lots of jewels! Name suggestions would be nice again!
- A fighting/flying Farfetch'd evolution would be amazing, called R'duckulus, with longer legs with bandages wrapped around them.
- Maybe a poison/dark evolution of Muk called Tarr?
- Maybe a psychic/dark evolution to Hypno called Tyzer?
- Maybe a water/rock evolution of Kingler?
- Maybe a poison/dark evolution of Weezing called Choaking?
- I would love Tangela to have a grass/ground type pre-evolution called Tangulb, that looks like a plant bulb with eyes and feet!
- I would also like a psychic type Mr. Mime evolution called Mstr. Mime.
- We all know it's about time Jynx got an evolution, probably keeping the ice/psychic typing!
- I think Tauros and Miltank should get the same pre-evolution, seeing as they have the same base stats and all Tauros are male, and all Miltank are female. It seems like they're meant to be parallels!
- Lapras needs a water type pre-evolution!
- I would love for there to be a poison type eeveelution called Fungeon (that's covered in mushrooms), and a ghost type eeveelution called Ghouleon. Maybe even a bug type evolution called Monarcheon (Based on the monarch butterfly). This is a little bit out there, but I'd also like a normal type pre-evolution of Eevee called Eon.
- Sudowoodo should get a rock type evolution... Maybe even rock/grass type!
- I would love Stantler to get a normal/ground evolution!
- I would like a bug type Volbeat and Illumise pre-evolution called Fumblebee.
- I would also love for Torkoal to get a fire/rock evolution (despite how many weaknesses it would have)...
- I would really love for Banette to get a ghost type evolution called Shuppefeer.
- A grass/ground Tropius evolution might be cool!
- Chimecho should get a psychic/steel evolution, that looks like a large bell.
- A water/dark evolution of Huntail and a water/psychic evolution of Gorebyss.
- A flying type Chatot evolution would be nice...
- Maybe an amazing electric/dark evolution to Zebstrika?
- It would be nice if Throh and Sawk got a normal/fighting type pre-evolution, a bit like Tyrogue.

As a side note, I would love the fairy type to be introduced, as we have dragon, and it actually makes sense, as a lot of old Pokémon would fit into this typing. Cleffa, Clefairy, and Clefable should now be purely fairy type, along with Igglybuff, Jigglypuff, Wigglytuff, Happiny, Chansey, Blissey, Togepi and Audino. Lickitung, Lickilicky, Snorlax, Snubbull, Granbull, Skitty and Delcatty should be normal/fairy, and I also think Togetic and Togekiss should be fairy/flying. Bellossom should be grass/fairy type, along with Lilligant and Shaymin's land form. Misdreavus and Mismagius should become ghost/fairy, and Volbeat and Illumise should become bug/fairy. Swablu should be retyped as fairy/flying, and Milotic, Luvdisc, Phione and Alomomola should become water/fairy. I would also like to see Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf all become psychic/fairy type. Maybe Mienshao should become fighting/fairy type too, and Mawile should become steel/fairy! Gardevoir should also be retyped as psychic/fairy... And of course Sylveon will be this type, and maybe Xerneas will be fairy/ground with Yveltal being dark/flying? The moves that should become fairy moves are After You, Assist, Bestow, Charm, Heal Bell, Healing Wish, Heal Pulse, Lovely Kiss, Lucky Chant, Lunar Dance, Present, Refresh, Relic Song, Simple Beam, Softboiled, Sweet Kiss, Teeter Dance, Tickle and Wish.

Of course, some of these are very unlikely, but I can dream! I wish I was Photoshop literate so I could actually make some of these creations! Let me know what you think!
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For everyone wanting evos for Kricketot, Ariados, and Ledian, regional early route Bugs do not get addition evolutions, just like regional rodents and birds, for traditional reasons.

For everyone wanting evos for Pokemon who have base stats over 465 (Camerupt, Skarmory, etc.), they're already competitively usable in OU, so there's no need to give them unnecessary evolutions. Just because it's happened to only a few Pokemon (Scyther, Rhydon, etc.) doesn't mean they'll do it again.

For everyone wanting new evos/pre-evos to Kanto Pokemon (Sandslash, Pinsir, etc.), the chances of getting another Gen 1 remake with an updated dex to include 190 Pokemon, including all the cross gen evos/pre-evos to Kanto Pokemon, is possible, so it's important that Sylveon is the only Kanto cross gen evo in Gen VI, so would help GF add more Ghost and Dragon types into the updated Kanto dex, in order for Agatha and Lance to have better teams.

It's best to focus on giving pre/evos to non-Kanto Pokemon, who do not fall under any traditions/patterns, such as Corsola, Sableye, and Chatot.
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How is the updated Kanto dex with 190 counting evos and pre evos possible but the 465 bst Pokémon evolving is not? I think it's more possible we'll get another 465 bst pokémon evolving this generation as thus far Even gens have had at least one 465 + evolve.
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Quote originally posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire:
How is the updated Kanto dex with 190 counting evos and pre evos possible but the 465 bst Pokémon evolving is not? I think it's more possible we'll get another 465 bst pokémon evolving this generation as thus far Even gens have had at least one 465 + evolve.
It's because the chances of XY taking place in the same timeline as R/B/Y and R/S/E due to Mewtwo is more likely that a another Gen 1 remake is in the works. As for evos to BST 465 Pokemon, it's due to Evolite possibly making former standalone/1st stage Pokemon with OU-material stats game breakers. Evolite Skarmory, for example, could be the most broken Pokemon in the metagame if it ever recieved an evolution.
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Agreed with Magmaruby. There is no real prediction factor you can take into account when it comes to GF's deciding what gets an evo (look at Porygon2). Also, there's nothing that tells me that what you (Pinkie-Dawn) say is the "rule" of getting an evo, so I can want a new evo all I want because there is a possibility it could happen.
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Agreed with Magmaruby. There is no real prediction factor you can take into account when it comes to GF's deciding what gets an evo (look at Porygon2). Also, there's nothing that tells me that what you (Pinkie-Dawn) say is the "rule" of getting an evo, so I can want a new evo all I want because there is a possibility it could happen.
Prediction factors do exist, not just on Pokemon, but also on everything else irl. The point about models is to allow us to understand, explain, and predict what will happen from a logical standpoint based on years of research from past events, and GF's methods on Pokemon pre-evos/evos are no exception. We can't blindly pick which Pokemon should have an evolution without proper research on the pokemon in question, or else we'll be solely disappointed, or flat out despise the game altogether, if that wish didn't come true. I have seen this before with other games with huge rosters.
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Quote originally posted by Pinkie-Dawn:
Prediction factors do exist, not just on Pokemon, but also on everything else irl. The point about models is to allow us to understand, explain, and predict what will happen from a logical standpoint based on years of research from past events, and GF's methods on Pokemon pre-evos/evos are no exception. We can't blindly pick which Pokemon should have an evolution without proper research on the pokemon in question, or else we'll be solely disappointed, or flat out despise the game altogether, if that wish didn't come true. I have seen this before with other games with huge rosters.
Stats do not matter when it comes to evolving Pokemon. The Eviolite does not matter in evolving Pokemon. If Gamefreak wants to evolve anything then they will. There is little logic in Pokemon predictions. A camerupt evolution is as possible as Pachirisu getting an evolution or Stunfisk or Eevee. If they wanted to give Shuckle an evolution, they will. There are no factors outside of legend status that prevents future chances for evolution. The only other thing that hasn't been broken yet is stone evolution. Gamefreak can still break it this gen. Won't make sense but they will if they want to.
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Besides IF the evolite really stands in GF's way of evolving a Pokémon they could always removed it (items have vanished between generations before).
Also on the topic of models as I've said we've had at least one 465+ evolve every even generation so one could say that's a model for gen 6.
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I agree to xander. Gf will do wtevr it likes. They can evolve shuckle and make shuckle ****ing more defensive. But gf would make some pkmns that would counter evolite shuckle.
Same fr sableye. Gf make evolite sableye, on the other hand, they will make counters for it (like an ability that makes a pkmn immune to status ailments.)
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I'm pretty sure a Sableye evo is on the cards. A Sableye is shown next to pikachu on the poster of the Extremespeed Genesect movie coming up. Usually when a main character in the anime catches a previous gen pokemon it means they'll be getting an evo (with the expection of Dawns Cyndaquill as it was to promote HGSS) Ash caught an Aipom in a movie before Gen 4 and that was because it got an evolution.
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Or they could just have a Sableye pre-evolution, and it wouldn't affect too much.
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If it were a pre evolution they'll have to show it early in the movie like they did with Munchlax in Destiny Deoxys.
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Quote originally posted by Rayquaza 97:
I'm pretty sure a Sableye evo is on the cards. A Sableye is shown next to pikachu on the poster of the Extremespeed Genesect movie coming up. Usually when a main character in the anime catches a previous gen pokemon it means they'll be getting an evo (with the expection of Dawns Cyndaquill as it was to promote HGSS) Ash caught an Aipom in a movie before Gen 4 and that was because it got an evolution.
Aipom was caught after the Kanto's Festival while Ash was taking on the Battle Frontier. Not a movie.

May was also the representative for 4th Gen when she caught Munchlax in Kanto. With Dawn getting Cyndaquil, this breaks the fairly non-existent pattern set in the anime. There are never exceptions set, if there is an exception then the pattern has been broken and isn't relevant.

From the video that was shown Sableye was a native to the area instead and was just playing with Ash's team. He may be the Plusel/Minun of this movie seeing as Mewtwo and Sylveon are the Gen 6 targets for this movie set.
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Pokemon that I see potential in getting pre/evolution:

Jynx- Evolution
Tauros- Preevolution/Evolution
New Tyrogue Evolution
Pinsir- Evolution
Lapras- Preevolution/evolution
Sudowoodo- Evolution

There's a few others, but those are the main ones I would like to see. (yes most from Gen One, but they are the one's that make since)
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Pokemon that I see potential in getting pre/evolution:
Jynx- Evolution
New Tyrogue Evolution
Pinsir- Evolution
Lapras- Preevolution/evolution
Sudowoodo- Evolution
Giving Jynx an Evolution would make sense, since Magmar and Electabuzz got one in Gen IV. If Pinsir and Sudowoodo get an Evo, then so should Mr. Mime and Heracross imo, since they kinda go together. Tyrogue getting a new evolution sounds really interesting, would love to see that :D
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Aipom was caught after the Kanto's Festival while Ash was taking on the Battle Frontier. Not a movie.

May was also the representative for 4th Gen when she caught Munchlax in Kanto. With Dawn getting Cyndaquil, this breaks the fairly non-existent pattern set in the anime. There are never exceptions set, if there is an exception then the pattern has been broken and isn't relevant.
Sorry I knew it was around that time but couldn't remember when specifically. With Munchlax he was unveiled in all sorts of media, most notably X D. Also I distinctly remember there being a Bonsly in that game. I also remember Tracey having a Marill that killed of the Pikablu rumours, and Misty had a Togepi. I know it's pretty inconsistent but I can see a pattern there.
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Old May 6th, 2013 (04:59 AM). Edited May 6th, 2013 by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire.
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That "Leak" of the starters is most likely fake as they look like fakemon I've seen around, especially Froakie's evolution. Also they just look like larger versions of the starters, more so than any other previous starter line.
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