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Old January 12th, 2013 (04:35 PM).
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It really is surprising and almost saddening to a certain extent, as people should've seen the transition coming. A new console was eventually bound to have a Pokemon game released on it.
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My brother is buying a 3DS entirely because the new Pokemon X and Y are going to be on it.

I don't think it will lose any audience. It's true a lot of people can't afford the 3DS right now, the the used ones will keep getting cheaper and cheaper and people will buy them eventually.
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Old January 12th, 2013 (05:23 PM).
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My brother is buying a 3DS entirely because the new Pokemon X and Y are going to be on it.

I don't think it will lose any audience. It's true a lot of people can't afford the 3DS right now, the the used ones will keep getting cheaper and cheaper and people will buy them eventually.
That's the whole reason I'm getting a 3DS. The rest is just icing on the cake.
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Old January 12th, 2013 (06:11 PM).
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Although I think the games will have a major impact on the general series, I do agree in essence with the idea that a fully 3D Pomemon world on a new handheld console would be successful. I haven't used my DS since 2011, and only recently have for a Pokemon Emerald replay. I'm anticipating the release and I am looking forward to seeing more news as it comes along.
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With nine months before the games are released, there's plenty of time for people who can't purchase a 3DS now to buy it at some time down the road before the games are out. Besides the point, there's no deadline that says the only chance you have at buying the games are on release day.

The sheer fact that these games are the first main title Pokémon games in 3D and on the 3DS will rise interest and likely boost sales of the 3DS as many have already said. I, myself, already mentioned that I'm finally going to buy a 3DS just to get these games.
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Old January 12th, 2013 (07:04 PM).
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For me they will lose tons of sales from this, A massive majority of sales for BW2 came from the standard DS buyers rather than 3DS users.
Lose tons of sales? Erryone and their mother has a 3DS now. Just look at the recent JP and US sales.

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SO in my opinion pokemon will be laid to rest this year
"Pokemon is on the GBA!, It's finished!"
"Pokemon is now on the DS, It's finished"
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but that still doesn't excuse the fact they just took a massive crap on standard DS users such as myself.
Why do you want the series to be held back by keeping the series on 7 year old handheld? If anything, this shows how much lack of dedication you have to the franchise.

"muh entitlement for a pogeymang game on 7 year old console."
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For me they will lose tons of sales from this, A massive majority of sales for BW2 came from the standard DS buyers rather than 3DS users. SO in my opinion pokemon will be laid to rest this year, not everyone can afford a 3DS, I know they moved it to the 3ds so that they could make the graphics better and stuff but that still doesn't excuse the fact they just took a massive crap on standard DS users such as myself.
You obviously are not familiar with buying Nintendo Products. They have been doing this for 20 somewhat years. Anyone who knows their company knows as soon as they put a new system out, you have to get it. They usually switch to the new systems within a few months after the release. The DS was a much slower transfer, but "taking a crap on you" when they were transitioning people like you into the 3DS for 2 years is far from the truth.

They actually aren't going to lose any business at all. Sales for the 3DS are steadily increasing and they are supplying less and less of both the older consoles and older games. Many fans of specific series wait until their "want" games are released before getting the consoles. A lot got the 3Ds when Zelda came out. More still when Mario came out. The final push will be with Pokemon unless some other major title appears out of the blue. There are a lot of Pokemon Fans that are getting 3DS now.

I told a few parents about the new games already. They looked up what I told them to see if it were true and came in the next day to buy their kids some 3DS' without the kids even asking for them. Most of my friends have already traded in their DSi's for 3DS' now that the new Pokemon news is out. This is how Nintendo has always worked. This is how they will always work because their fans know how they operate and move with the times.
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Old January 12th, 2013 (07:17 PM).
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I bought a 3DS because I knew Pokemon would move onto that platform eventually. Also I didn't have a working DS so I decided to get a 3DS so I could even use the Dream Radar. I knew my parents wouldn't get me one so I got a job so I'd be able to get the 3DS XL by the time B2W2 came out. Pokemon is the only game I play. We got Wii last yeah but prior to that I played nothing else. Besides the Wii games are more on the fitness side, I have to video games on that, besides Mario and something else which I never play. SO Pokemon is all I play and I'd be willing, and clearly have, to but a new console to play it on. That's handheld only by the way, unless a home console story is amazing. I just don't like home consoles, they feel time consuming.
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Old January 12th, 2013 (07:59 PM).
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There is great success for the 3DS right now in terms of games.

They've picked up their slack from the first year of release for the 3DS and towards the middle of 2012 they began to release all of the 3DS games they promised a year ago. Now they are out with even more popular games over in Japan, like Animal Crossing and Harvest Moon for the 3DS. The momentum for switching to the 3DS for Nintendo consumers is just beginning, really.

Pokemon X and Y versions are just going to further that roll even further. By no means do I believe that the transition to the 3DS is going to 'end Pokemon'. The 3DS's price now (brand new) is the same as the DS lite's was upon release. Nobody really had any issues getting a hold of those from what I saw. The same goes for the DSi, and that system lost it's ability to play GBA games.

The 3DS can still play DS games alongside it's exclusive games. That alone is enough to help keep it up along the transition being done.

Pokemon X and Y versions are only going to assist this change even further. Just like how Pokemon games have always assisted us into transferring to new systems in the past. And let's be honest here guys, Pokemon is far more popular over there in Japan. No matter what system it's on, I don't think it'll matter. They will find a way to get it just like they always have. So if everyone else is really having that much trouble with this transition (which would boggle me since it never was an issue in the past), then I'm pretty sure Japan's gonna pick up that slack.

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Old January 12th, 2013 (08:19 PM).
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Really, I can't believe that there are people who still think the games should've been on the Ds...that system is dead already guys. All big title games for that system are gone. Be glad B2W2 were on the DS at least, Iwata wanted them to be on the 3DS but GF wanted to end the generation on the same system.
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Old January 12th, 2013 (11:28 PM).
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The 3DS is reasonably priced in NZ and I see no reason not to get one now. I see the DS Lite, what I currently have, as outdated as hell now though it's still going strongly and can't wait for a new console. I'm glad they didn't release the new games on DS as it's about time the franchise moves forward in this direction. We have nine months to save up for it guys - well that's my plan anyway!
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I wasn't planning on buying a 3DS until I saw the announcement for X and Y. Who can argue with a 3D Pokemon game? I've been wanting that since I was a kid. So yeah, I'm happy that this is going to be for the 3DS, even though it means I'll have to upgrade from my DS Lite.
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Old January 13th, 2013 (04:11 PM).
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For me they will lose tons of sales from this, A massive majority of sales for BW2 came from the standard DS buyers rather than 3DS users. SO in my opinion pokemon will be laid to rest this year, not everyone can afford a 3DS, I know they moved it to the 3ds so that they could make the graphics better and stuff but that still doesn't excuse the fact they just took a massive crap on standard DS users such as myself.
If they lose sales from this than that's completely retarded. The GBA Pokemon games only had about 3-4 years of pokemon games coming out for it. The DS has had 7 years. That is ridiculous. The DS has outdone it's stay. It is about time a Pokemon game comes out for the new system. If you can't afford a 3DS than your absolutely broke and probably are living in a box. If you can't afford it sell your old system, unwanted things, get a job (or if your not old enough ask your parents for chores), buy a refurbished model or even wait until the price goes down. It really isn't that hard...
Time to move on my friend. Time to move on. If you live with the too expensive and not worth buying mindset you might as well sell your DS and buy a Gameboy Color or original and Pokemon Red/Green/Blue.
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No way at all. Like everyone has said above these games will only help to boost the 3DS sells. I have talked to a bunch of my friends who do not own a 3DS but now intend to buy one because of this announcement.
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The OP must have gotten into Pokemon during the 4th gen (no offense to him/her, but that's how they make themselves sound; like they've never had to upgrade over the years). This is not the first time Nintendo has made games only for the next gen handheld. It hasn't hurt them before, and I doubt it'll hurt them now. It's only really a pain in the arse for those who already been through multiple iterations of the DS.

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^ See a pattern? It's not going to end until Nintendo declares that they can't push the technology any further. People still bought (and will buy) new systems with every generation. So long as GF doesn't make a Pokemon game that everyone unanimously hates, Pokemon won't die.
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$300 really isn't that much in the console department.
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The OP must have gotten into Pokemon during the 4th gen (no offense to him/her, but that's how they make themselves sound; like they've never had to upgrade over the years). This is not the first time Nintendo has made games only for the next gen handheld. It hasn't hurt them before, and I doubt it'll hurt them now. It's only really a pain in the arse for those who already been through multiple iterations of the DS.

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DPPtBWB2W2 = DS Original, XL, DSi, Lite [GBA backwards compatible only for Original w/ slot], 3DS
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^ See a pattern? It's not going to end until Nintendo declares that they can't push the technology any further. People still bought (and will buy) new systems with every generation. So long as GF doesn't make a Pokemon game that everyone unanimously hates, Pokemon won't die.
I think you probably should have read the original post first, Fabio was asking as a hypothetical, he didn't actually think Pokemon was dying - at least I'm pretty sure he wasn't.
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The OP must have gotten into Pokemon during the 4th gen (no offense to him/her, but that's how they make themselves sound; like they've never had to upgrade over the years). This is not the first time Nintendo has made games only for the next gen handheld. It hasn't hurt them before, and I doubt it'll hurt them now. It's only really a pain in the arse for those who already been through multiple iterations of the DS.

RBGY = Gameboy [monochrome + color]
GSC = Gameboy [color version preferred for the introduction of shinies, but GF added the stars {like for Red Gyarodos} for those still playing the monochrome GB]
SREFRLG = Gameboy Advance Original or SP [GB monochrome + color also compatible]
DPPtBWB2W2 = DS Original, XL, DSi, Lite [GBA backwards compatible only for Original w/ slot], 3DS
XY = 3DS [DS backwards compatible]

^ See a pattern? It's not going to end until Nintendo declares that they can't push the technology any further. People still bought (and will buy) new systems with every generation. So long as GF doesn't make a Pokemon game that everyone unanimously hates, Pokemon won't die.
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I think you probably should have read the original post first, Fabio was asking as a hypothetical, he didn't actually think Pokemon was dying - at least I'm pretty sure he wasn't.
Yeh, I was asking a hypothetical question. For the record, I have played the games when they first came out. ;D
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If you cannot afford the small amount for a 3DS in the next 10 months, then you need to take a good long look at what you're doing wrong with your life.
its been a while since i have logged in here but i logged in just to say this to you(so you should feel special)

people have bills to pay, and people have families to feed
just because you are handed everything doesnt everyone else is, rainy days happen and if you had to choose between spending $200(after taxes and everything because i know most kids dont calculate tax with their purchase) on a 3ds or $200 to fix your car so you can keep your family fed, and a roof over your head, i think most sane people will spend that $200 on their car

you have a lot of growing up to do kid if you think like that

ON TOPIC:
i feel the new pokemon games are not going to sell well, most people dont buy the latest and greatest console for their kids, heck i only got my 3ds because it cost less to buy then a dsi xl was last year(christmas special) and the only game i bought was star fox 64 for nostalgia purposes, and honestly the new pokemon games look really low quality as far as graphics and gameplay went, no high res images, terrible camera angles, and bad animations. the pokemon on the other hand look amazing but thats it really, and even though everything is subject to change, i dont think it will change much from the launch trailer


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wow reading through this thread, it seems there are a lot of spoiled kids here
who ever thinks $150 isnt a lot of money is either a spoiled kid, or an adult mooching off someone else
let me list out what you can buy for $150
1. a months worth of groceries
2. 2 cheap tires
3. 1-2 months worth of gas
4. replacement exhaust for your car
5. a tablet(which is a ton more useful then a 3ds ever will be)
6. a replacement phone
7. $150 can make or break 1 months rent
8. 4 new brakes pads installed
and there is plenty more that i can list but im not going to because it will take to long but you get the idea
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The 3DS has been out for almost two years now, if you think putting aside a couple of bucks a month for two years is too much, then I'd honestly recommend a hobby less expensive than gaming. My family has, for most of my life up to this point, been subsisting on quite a ways down below the poverty line in Canada, and I was able to set aside enough money for a 3DS. This is also not a new phenomena, the original DS was this expensive when the fourth generation came out, and we all remember how absolutely no one paid the money for them and the Pokemon franchise died out, right?
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Old January 16th, 2013 (03:26 PM).
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The 3DS has been out for almost two years now, if you think putting aside a couple of bucks a month for two years is too much, then I'd honestly recommend a hobby less expensive than gaming. My family has, for most of my life up to this point, been subsisting on quite a ways down below the poverty line in Canada, and I was able to set aside enough money for a 3DS. This is also not a new phenomena, the original DS was this expensive when the fourth generation came out, and we all remember how absolutely no one paid the money for them and the Pokemon franchise died out, right?
if someone bought their kid a DSi last year because they wanted to play black 2 and white 2, is that same person going to buy their kid a 3ds AND the new pokemon game this year because he wants the new pokemon game?
hell no, not unless they know they can afford it

like i said when i bought my 3ds, the reason i bought it was because it was $140 OTD, and a new DSi was $150 OTD, i would have been retarded to pay more for last generations console but then again im a smart consumer who has a little bit of interest in gaming and i know a good deal when i see one

now with that said please dont talk to me about expensive hobbies, i just dumped over 1k into my 370z(wet Nos kit with a retune to make sure i dont blow up my engine) last week because i felt like it, but i am also a responsible adult and i make sure i pay my bills and i make sure i have my priorities straight, if my daily driver were to break, i would have used the money i saved up to fix that instead of modifying my car

like i said my response is to those little kids who go around saying money is nothing and a game console is cheap because those kids clearly havent lived in the real world
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So you decided you were the perfect person to lecture people on spending money frivolously when you "just dumped over 1k into my 370z(wet Nos kit with a retune to make sure i dont blow up my engine) last week because i felt like it (sic)"?
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its been a while since i have logged in here but i logged in just to say this to you(so you should feel special)

people have bills to pay, and people have families to feed
just because you are handed everything doesnt everyone else is, rainy days happen and if you had to choose between spending $200(after taxes and everything because i know most kids dont calculate tax with their purchase) on a 3ds or $200 to fix your car so you can keep your family fed, and a roof over your head, i think most sane people will spend that $200 on their car

you have a lot of growing up to do kid if you think like that

ON TOPIC:
i feel the new pokemon games are not going to sell well, most people dont buy the latest and greatest console for their kids, heck i only got my 3ds because it cost less to buy then a dsi xl was last year(christmas special) and the only game i bought was star fox 64 for nostalgia purposes, and honestly the new pokemon games look really low quality as far as graphics and gameplay went, no high res images, terrible camera angles, and bad animations. the pokemon on the other hand look amazing but thats it really, and even though everything is subject to change, i dont think it will change much from the launch trailer


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wow reading through this thread, it seems there are a lot of spoiled kids here
who ever thinks $150 isnt a lot of money is either a spoiled kid, or an adult mooching off someone else
let me list out what you can buy for $150
1. a months worth of groceries
2. 2 cheap tires
3. 1-2 months worth of gas
4. replacement exhaust for your car
5. a tablet(which is a ton more useful then a 3ds ever will be)
6. a replacement phone
7. $150 can make or break 1 months rent
8. 4 new brakes pads installed
and there is plenty more that i can list but im not going to because it will take to long but you get the idea
I don't mooch.
I pay my own credit card and half the utlities where I live.
150 is a weeks worth of groceries at best in my house, four adults+ reoccuring guests, not to mention we eat out a lot.
I make MAYBE 300 in two weeks, on a good paycheck.
I have had to earn everything I own since I was 7, so I have personally saved for every nintendo system and majority of my games on my own.

Please do not presume to know what everyone is capable of. I agree that 170 for a game system is not that much nor that hard. I can easily do it on minimum wage and have seen others do the same with less income. I work in a toystore. Since the news of pokemon x and y, i have seen 20 returns od dsi systems for 3ds' so parents will shell out for their kids if they ask for them.

As i said before, this is how nintendo has been doing business for 20 + years. Its not going to change, and those that know this just shell out asap. Pokemon won't lose any sales, and if Animal Crossing is anything to go by, they stand to make more than normal projected sales. So no, its realy not that hard. May take a bit of financial manuvering for those who make less than minimum wage/survive on tips, but saving a little on the side of each check in place of immediate recreational spending will allow you to get them within a month or two depending on check size/expendature rate.
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The OP must have gotten into Pokemon during the 4th gen (no offense to him/her, but that's how they make themselves sound; like they've never had to upgrade over the years). This is not the first time Nintendo has made games only for the next gen handheld. It hasn't hurt them before, and I doubt it'll hurt them now. It's only really a pain in the arse for those who already been through multiple iterations of the DS.

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DPPtBWB2W2 = DS Original, XL, DSi, Lite [GBA backwards compatible only for Original w/ slot], 3DS
XY = 3DS [DS backwards compatible]

^ See a pattern? It's not going to end until Nintendo declares that they can't push the technology any further. People still bought (and will buy) new systems with every generation. So long as GF doesn't make a Pokemon game that everyone unanimously hates, Pokemon won't die.
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It's actually kind of ironic that you're preaching about the value of money and your username contains one of California's most iconic zip codes and you just spent over $1k on your sports car. But to each their own. Anyway...
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if someone bought their kid a DSi last year because they wanted to play black 2 and white 2, is that same person going to buy their kid a 3ds AND the new pokemon game this year because he wants the new pokemon game?
hell no, not unless they know they can afford it
If someone wanted to buy their kid a DSi so they can play Black 2 and White 2, then with a little research on the internet and they could have put in a few extra bucks and gotten them the 3DS instead since it can also play DS games. I've seen parents looks ask questions online for that sort of stuff. Even here, they've done it before.

Also, there's eBay or Amazon available where they can put the DSi up for sale and use that money to help pay for a 3DS. Also, places like GameStop where you could trade it in and cut the price off of purchasing a new handheld. There are ways to help reduce costing expenses if need be.

Another thing, no one has to go out and buy a 3DS or these games on release day. There's time to save up little by little for it and it won't be disappearing anytime soon.

Pokémon is ultimately a hobby, and one who's played Pokémon for awhile should always be aware that whenever new handheld systems or consoles come out, it's 99.9% guaranteed there will come a time when Pokémon shifts to making games solely for those newer systems. It has happened before, and it'll keep happening again. It's just the way the world of video gaming and technology works.

And as for kids yapping about how cheap $150 might be, well, maybe they are lucky and have the money to spare or they have someone who can buy it for them. Eventually, their time comes when they have to learn the importance of budget and the value of money. That's just life.

But the 3DS isn't going to kill Pokémon, and I doubt it's going to hurt the franchise very much either. People will buy a 3DS to get the games if they really want them, and if they can't afford it right away, then when they can, they will.
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