X/Y General Chat and Speculation

[Jake♫]

I'm expecting it probably early morning for the USA on the 13th honestly. Although Sylveon got leaked right about now last issue I doubt it'll happen again that early.

[Magmaruby and Aquasapphire]

I always count the current day, if not than my math on the dates gets all messed up xD
It's possible we may not even get new info according to Aerilyn's post in the new Corocoro trend If true than we got to wait another month, or until the site updates. Hopefully if there really is no news in the new one than they'll be kind to update the site with new info sometime during the wait...if not than prepare to talk about Sylveon's type for another whole month...

[Twilight Sky]

All I'm saying right now is that I wouldn't get my hopes up, and if anything, expect minor information related to the games more than anything else. It's kind of a shame really, it seems that this would've taken people completely off-guard, at least those who expected something huge, but eh, not too big of a surprise considering that the movie has to have some kind of promotion, right?

So far I'm keeping my expectations low. I like to be pleasantly surprised.

[Magmaruby and Aquasapphire]

To be honest I'm not as disappointed as I thought I'll be after first reading that. I guess one get's used to GF's hype machine afterawhile...

So does anyone think we may get another shiny beasts/Celebi like event in these games like what happened in BW?

[Twilight Sky]

Chances are it wouldn't be improbable if something like that were to happen. I'm actually pretty curious as to what this generation's small/cute legendary would be~! ;___;

[Elendil]

Oh come on! Unnerve Mewtwo?! I know there could and should be more, but just leaking that is mean I guessbwe have to wait for the usual leakers to be certain. I guess its a sign though, somebody is getting a forme....

[RandomDSdevel]

Originally Posted by Elendil

Bulldoze with 15PP, but raise it to 80 in terms of power. I need to reign terror the right way, not with a mere 60. Would also love to see Solarbeam getting nerfed with rainy weather.

We do need better implementation of the weather system, especially outside of battle. I also think that someone mentioned (was it here or in the RSE thread, since I frequent that, too?) that they want weather effects to leave evidence behind when new conditions take effect. (Hey, wait, here's another thought: if they ever bring back the 'Follow Me' feature, even it is just for the Hoenn remake or Amity Square in the promised D/P/Pt remake, then it should leave evidence behind, too…i.e.: Nurse Joy could say, "Come back here and apologize about having your Diglett messing up my floor!")

Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo

As for hail, maybe sun-based moves can be nerfed... somehow.

Like, Solarbeam having less power? I mean, moves like Moonlight and Synthesis works depending on the sun, maybe Solarbeam can work the same way.

Wait, …doesn't Moonbeam depend on moonlight…at night?

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn

I believe the reason why it went back to having a 60% accuracy in Platinum was because the 70% actually made it too OP for everyone to use.

Why don't we just ask GameFreak to make Bulldoze's accuracy 65% and call it a day?

[Miss Doronjo]

Originally Posted by RandomDSdevel

Wait, …doesn't Moonbeam depend on moonlight…at night?

Well, Moonlight is actually created from the sun. It reflects the light. Hence why Moonlight's effectiveness increases when it's sunny.


Anyway, are there still more CoroCoro pages to leak? Maybe we'll see something more there? Even if new X&Y news is small... it's still news!

[RandomDSdevel]

Originally Posted by vaporeon7

We also need stronger ghost type moves, iicr, Shadow ball is the strongest excluding Shadow Force.

Hem, hem:

Originally Posted by RandomDSdevel

Two words: 'Shadow Vortex.' See my sig.

Although this could be a Dark-type move as well…hey, haven't some people (including, I admit, myself) been discussing the possibility of dual typing for moves somewhere else in the forums?

Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy

I don't think Pokemon needs a new Type. I don't think a new Type will be added. Light-Type just seems redundant. However, one video I saw suggested a "Fairy-Type". This would include all the "Pink Balloon" Pokemon like Blissey, Jigglypuff, and other pokemon with "fairy" as their species.

Normal-Type today is already divided into 2 main groups. Animal pokemon, and misfit pokemon. How is Porygon a "Normal Type? Exactly what is NORMAL about a pokemon made of Data that shoots electric and psychic attacks?

So, I think there is genuine design space for Normal Type to be split into 2 distinct types. Normal-Type would become the home on ACTUAL Normal animals like Lilipup and Ratatta. (there is nothing normal about Joey's Ratatta. He's in like, the top percentile of ratattas.) The New Type would be the official Hodge-podge-Type that Normal is currently. Filled with bizarre things like Porygon, Likitunge, Jigglypuff and others.

(people say Likitunge is a chameleon. I disagree. The thing is pink and made of rubber and look like no Earthly creature. It is not Normal to be pink and inflatable.)

Kecleon's the chameleon, but Lickitung reminds me somewhat of a fat, pink Yoshi. As for Porygon, why isn't he an Electirc-and-Psychic typed Pokémon or something like that? And fairy-like Pokémon already have a category: The Fairy Egg Group.

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire

Yeah some stronger Ghost and Dark moves would be nice, oh and ice as well, none of the other ice moves except for ice beam seem to be close to Blizzard in BP, not counting Kyurem's signature moves. And there's no 100 BP or higher physical ice move either, again not counting Black Kyurem's signature move. If we had some stronger ice moves Dragon can be kept in better check and thus the arguement that Dragon is broken and we need a new type would fall (more) apart.

We could always use more Dragon/Ice-type Pokémon (oh, why aren't there any before Kyurem! I want one with which to beast Clair in SoulSilver!)

Originally Posted by Jake♫

I don't think Fighting type attacks make sense, but allowing more Fire moves to let you out would definitely be cool.

Um…have you ever heard of a pick-axe?

…Later:

Originally Posted by Jake♫

When that happens I just get confused in general, since if you're actually frozen you can't move at all, which was my thinking against Fighting types breaking the freeze condition. Honestly I'd just like to see all damaging fire type attacks unfreeze yourself without your opponent having to do it for you.

Oh, wait: a pick-axe won't work if it's frozen inside the ice with me…sigh; I guess I'll just have to shiver myself out of this mess?!?

Originally Posted by Elendil

Nah, I want France to happen as is. Each country of Europe is too homogenous and diverse to cramp all in one region, and I fully expect a couple of regions to come out of the continent. The US didn't simply because while the east coast might be different from the midlands and the west coast, the country in general is the same in terms of culture, society and history,, where as Europe is 2000+ years of history for each country. A lot of different mythologies as well that can be a basis, is another factor.

Just because the United States hasn't been used more than once as the basis for a Pokémon region yet doesn't mean that it can't happen!

[Jake♫]

I'm assuming that they've gotten through the entire thing, but I'm really hoping they haven't, I'm jonesing for anything spoiler they can give us.

[Elendil]

Its like 1 in the morning over there, so any leaks will be much later.

[Twilight Sky]

If this is really it, then I'm severely disappointed. Not that I had sky-high expectations to begin with, but really? x_x; I expected like, at least a whole page of information or something, not just a tiny bit just to promote a movie and a single Pokemon...

[XanderO]

Originally Posted by Elendil

Oh come on! Unnerve Mewtwo?! I know there could and should be more, but just leaking that is mean I guessbwe have to wait for the usual leakers to be certain. I guess its a sign though, somebody is getting a forme....

Since the Mewtwo event is Generation 5, nope no new form.

Its currently 4 am for them so if we get anymore leaks it'll be later tonight if they don't upload them in the morning for them. I can see the leaks if any left coming out in about 7 hours. Anytime before that would be lucky.

[Elendil]

X and Y new form, not B2W2 new form. Cross gen transferring exists.

[Cerberus87]

People are still talking about remakes?

I don't think there'll be any remakes whatsoever unless something happens like 6th gen completely blocking compatibility with the older games, or there's a huge change in individual Pokémon code.

[Twilight Sky]

No one was saying anything about remakes in this thread. oo; Just the fact that today's revelation was on a whole, pretty underwhelming.

[XanderO]

Originally Posted by Elendil

X and Y new form, not B2W2 new form. Cross gen transferring exists.

No legend has gotten a new form outside of its introducing generation. Mewtwo still isn't related to X and Y either so there isn't much support for it to get a new form.

[Jake♫]

I really hope we aren't given new forms of legendaries in new generations. They had their time in their own generation, there's no need to rehash them and give them a new form for the sake of doing it. I'd rather have more new legendaries instead of bringing back old favorites.

[Twilight Sky]

Exactly. I just...feel like Fifth gen(as well as previous gens, maybe except Hoenn) have run their course, so please, I'd like to see a fresh, clean slate with this generation. @_@

[vaporeon7]

Well when Mew starred in the Lucario movie, it didn't get a new form. I don't see why Mewtwo would get one, it has no more of a reason than Mew did.

[Elendil]

Except for the fact that movie is subtitled Mewtwo's Awakening, and the trailer finished with we haven't seen the real Mewtwo. Mew didn't have that stuff now did it? Not to mention that would make Mewtwo the most short lived event Pokemon, if it didn't get anything in XY, be it new form or in-game event.

[Jake♫]

Mew also didn't get anything after starring in the movie either, so it wouldn't make sense for Mewtwo to get anything in that sense either. I really hope we don't get another form of it, it's just silly. It's had it's time in the spot light, just let it have the movie and be done.

[Elendil]

Mew was not distributed on FRLG/E's final legs, it still got usage for a year. Anyone who would bother to get a Pre-Order Mewtwo would more then willingly transfer it immediately to XY after BW/B2W2, and it would be expected to unlock something. It happened with gen 4 to gen 5, and its gonna happen again with gen 5 to gen 6.

[Jake♫]

But once isn't a pattern: It's just one occurrence. Hell I could be very wrong and it COULD unlock something, but I personally don't see it happening. I mean I guess with the whole DNA theme possibility it does relate to Mewtwo's creation in a sense, but who knows.

[Miss Doronjo]

Does Mewtwo even have a chance on making an appearance, or having a reference on X&Y? I've made a thread about Mewtwo here, where people have said that there's a slim chance. Or next to none. So, it'd probably wouldn't get a form either, unless GF made it an event of some kind. But, that's kind of unlikely as well. Maybe it can unlock something if you transfer it to the games, but, right now, the relation between Mewtwo and X&Y seems to be very small.