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Old April 7th, 2013 (10:58 AM).
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In regards to this picture...

People think that this shows Genesect along with its other 4 forms below, meaning Mewtwo will have 2 forms of its own. But we already know that the Shiny Genesect seems to be the leader of the other 4 that escaped. Perhaps it isn't different forms, but a team vs team idea with the leaders at the top?
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Meaning maybe this new Mewtwo-like creature is one of Mewtwo's henchman, and that there is another that could also be at his side? Perhaps the two new ones, if there is another new one yet to be seen, are both failed experiments and it's a kind of experimentation war? That'd be a pretty solid plot point, honestly.
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And this new Form/Pokemon has to be a brand new Pokémon. The official site is hinting it;
"Who is this new Pokemon?"
"Newly discovered Pokemon."
"Shares some traits with Mewtwo."
And also questionmarks beneath his artwork. Why would they conceil its name if it is just a Mewtwo? Why? Why the questionmarks? Because it is a new species!
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Old April 7th, 2013 (11:45 AM).
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I think they made the Genesect army so they can show all of Genesects different drives, with the Shiny one representing the driveless Genesect, but made shiny to make it special. The same thing may happen with Mewtwo even if the ones assuming the formes are other Mewtwo's...which sort of ruins the uniqueness of Mewtwo as being the only Mew clone in the anime imo.

Also the concealed name may only be the name of the forme...perhaps it spoils how it's obtained...
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I haven't posted on these forums for a long time, but this felt important enough to bring be back.

Mewtwo is one of those core pokemon you just don't touch, so I hope they handle this really carefully. Although they'll struggle to impress me, because I'm still angry things like Pichu were ever made.

If anything, I hope it's just related and not a forme of Mewtwo because then it's easier to forget about.

This is a long shot but looking at the size of it, it could play a similar role to Phione (bred from Mewtwo, can't evolve).
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I haven't posted on these forums for a long time, but this felt important enough to bring be back.

Mewtwo is one of those core pokemon you just don't touch, so I hope they handle this really carefully. Although they'll struggle to impress me, because I'm still angry things like Pichu were ever made.

If anything, I hope it's just related and not a forme of Mewtwo because then it's easier to forget about.

This is a long shot but looking at the size of it, it could play a similar role to Phione (bred from Mewtwo, can't evolve).
I'm going to copy this over to the Smash Live Feed thread if you don't mind. It was revealed in that episode and thus this is being discussed, and your idea of being like Phione could add to that discussion.

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I really do think that Mewtwo from the first film has probably dedicated himself to seeking justice for Pokemon when it comes to their dealings with humans. He's probably mos sensitive when it comes to abominations like himself, which is why he's appearing again in the upcoming film with Genesect. The NewMew is probably one of the previous failed experiments in cloning mew, and there could even be more. I think the point of them is to tie into with the now obvious genetics them of X&Y, and the perfect opportunity to explain more on the Mew cloning experiments. I really think it's a separate Pokemon, and that this one along with possible other clones will be the key to fighting and calming the Genesects. MEWTWO's AWAKENING is still valid since the old Mewtwo has already proven to be quite the leader with Pokemon.
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Usually whenever a new legendary is being shown that legendary is the focus of the Movie, I find it odd that they wouldn't do that this time around if it does turn out to be a new Pokémon as it'll steal the spotlight from Mewtwo, and take even more of the light from Genesect.

Anyway a week until Corocoro...perhaps it'll show off the second forme, or other "clone".
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Quote originally posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire:
Usually whenever a new legendary is being shown that legendary is the focus of the Movie, I find it odd that they wouldn't do that this time around if it does turn out to be a new Pokémon as it'll steal the spotlight from Mewtwo, and take even more of the light from Genesect.

Anyway a week until Corocoro...perhaps it'll show off the second forme, or other "clone".
Hopefully, either that or more details on what we already know and an answer to whether this new pokemon is in fact a new Pokemon or just a Mewtwo forme.
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I don't think we'll get much more information in CoroCoro at this point. I think they want it to be international so I doubt we'll get much because that'd not be very ~international~
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I don't think we'll get much more information in CoroCoro at this point. I think they want it to be international so I doubt we'll get much because that'd not be very ~international~
That's not necessarily true. In February, early leaks from CoroCoro revealed Sylveon. A day before CoroCoro's official release in Japan, Sylveon was officially revealed internationally outside of Japan through the official site. Newtwo was also officially revealed in an episode of Pokémon Smash, which is a Japanese show, but internationally the official site revealed it around the same time.

They can still reveal big things through CoroCoro if they want to regardless of it being a Japanese-specific magazine. The Pokémon Company clearly knows what will be in it ahead of time and will just update the official site either a day before, at the same time, or maybe a little while after to reveal it internationally.
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Oh right, I forgot about that. But idk, we only just got MewZ info even still not so long ago, and given how slow they are with information, they might just end up making us wait another month (also we know more at this point than we did in Generation 5 despite information being slowww).
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Well, imagine with the Japanese-only release how long we waited for information.

We got a little scoop this month. They won't reveal Sylveon's type yet. But my Ghost guess remains intact as my first instinct. I'm ust wondering if the pink could mean a new type instead of my second guess of Dragon.

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Old April 8th, 2013 (09:22 AM).
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I dont expect much more of this NewMew info, they might decide to hype it a bit more before revealing it so I wont be too dissapointed if that's the case. I dont expect anything else other than that from CoroCoro.
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TBH, theory #6 is something I have considered since this new Pokémon looks like a younger Mewtwo (though that wouldn't explain why it would lose its ability to know all TM's and HM's)
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Sorry if this has been said, but does anyone think it could be Mewtwo + Mew using the DNA Splicer? Just thinking this due to the XY genetic link.
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Quote originally posted by PokemonPlatnum:
Sorry if this has been said, but does anyone think it could be Mewtwo + Mew using the DNA Splicer? Just thinking this due to the XY genetic link.
While it's not impossible, I don't see them using the DNA Splicers for Mew and Mewtwo here. It seems like a key item that's specific to just Kyurem and Zekrom or Reshiram.

As for how Newtwo fits in between Mew and Mewtwo, I'm kind of hoping it's a failed experiment and is its own Pokémon. If it's any sort of evolution or bridge evolution for Mewtwo and Mew, then I feel like that lessens their status as legendaries in a way.
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I am perfectly happy with this Newtwo as long as it is its own thing, and not a new form of Mewtwo. They could do a lot with this new Pokemon.
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Sorry if this has been said, but does anyone think it could be Mewtwo + Mew using the DNA Splicer? Just thinking this due to the XY genetic link.
Both have a tail, or in Mewtwo's case what could pass for a tail. The new one has it on its head, like Jessie's hair (hence why that lovechild joke exists). It's not a splicer.

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I sincerely hope this Newtwo is legal to use in official battle facilities, depending if it's on the same ranks as Latios, Latias, Heatran, Regigigas, and Cressilia, because I would consider replacing Alakazam for this guy as my Psychic main.
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If it's a forme of Mewtwo, it may not be usable in official facilities. If it's it's own thing, it may or may not, hard to say. While Id like it to be it's own species, I'm prepared for it to just be a form.
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Well neither Mew and Mewtwo are allowed in the battle facilities so I'm guessing they'll do the same with the new clone/forme, unless if they were to give it a Slacking/Regigigas/ Archeops like ability.
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This might be handy: all known theories so far:


TBH, theory #6 is something I have considered since this new Pokémon looks like a younger Mewtwo (though that wouldn't explain why it would lose its ability to know all TM's and HM's)
#3 to #6 have little to no chance of ever happening. #6 Can never happen. Mewtwo is the Clone of Mew. The two aren't directly linked through evolution. In essence Mew and Mewtwo are the same being living in the same time in separate bodies. They are their own individual persona's but they are the same being since one if made from the other.

There is very little, like 0%, chance of them linking the two through evolution or even evolving either of them. With Mewtwo existing before a Pre-evo and not having the ability to breed, there isn't much chance of it being mewtwo's pre-evo.

So #1 or #2 are the only possible answers.

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I sincerely hope this Newtwo is legal to use in official battle facilities, depending if it's on the same ranks as Latios, Latias, Heatran, Regigigas, and Cressilia, because I would consider replacing Alakazam for this guy as my Psychic main.
If Mewtwo and Mew aren't high chance that this one won't either. If Mewtwo form, then we definitely can't use. If related then it would depend on how they make him. If he is as I think, another download/Event Legendary, then nope. He could be our new Victini after all.
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It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if GF is pulling an Alomomola again, which really seems to be the case this time around. That said, I'm sticking to the likely possibility of Newtwo not being related to Mewtwo/Mew at all.
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If Mewtwo and Mew aren't high chance that this one won't either. If Mewtwo form, then we definitely can't use. If related then it would depend on how they make him. If he is as I think, another download/Event Legendary, then nope. He could be our new Victini after all.
But isn't the concept of a mirage Pokemon like Victini is that they had to have a cute appearance. This new Pokemon has a serious/intimidating appearance that's more suited as either one of three extra event legendaries or a Heatran/Regigigas/Cressilia type of legendary.
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