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Old May 9th, 2013, 07:46 AM
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I don't think the chart is real due to it being from 4 chan, and it having fan bait like a lot of the fakes we've seen but I sort of hope if it did become a type fairy will be weak against poison...that way it may see some more use of poison types. Oh and Ice should be resistant against fairy.
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Old May 9th, 2013, 09:37 AM
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I'm sure with both Smash looking like an interesting episode and CoroCoro leaking pretty soon we will probably find out something Sylveon related, hopefully. We're almost half way through the wait now so I'm sure news will start to speed up as we get closer to October.
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Old May 9th, 2013, 11:23 AM
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I'd also appreciate it if Sylveon's typing was revealed. It is a but ridiculous that we have to wait for an overhyped eeveelution typing for so long, but that's just me. x_x
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I agree, July is too long to wait. Another two months of type guessing and I think we'll all go insane. Or new Pokémon to revive speculation.
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Old May 9th, 2013, 12:16 PM
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On the topic of the rumored type chart, I'm just going to go ahead and call it fake right now. Reason why? Honestly, nothing in particular. It's very rare that 4chan actually has a valid leak, and this one just doesn't seem very believable to me. Plus, it being included "to nerf Dragon types" is probably the shakiest argument out there. They don't care about competitive when it comes to making the games. Maybe they keep a watch on it, but I severely doubt they have it in mind at all.
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Old May 9th, 2013, 12:24 PM
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Well we've had countless rumors from 4Chan more so prior to specific dates such as CoroCoro week or Smash etc and they all turn out to be a hoax, odds are this will turn out to be too.
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Old May 9th, 2013, 12:43 PM
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I'd also appreciate it if Sylveon's typing was revealed. It is a but ridiculous that we have to wait for an overhyped eeveelution typing for so long, but that's just me. x_x
I totally agree with Twilight here, we've already speculated more than enough and have come up with an endless number or theories on what type Sylveon will be and why. It would be nice to actually have some legit info and finally get it over with. But i guess it's a smart PR move by nintendo, since the longer they hold onto their info, the more we will talk about it...

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On the topic of the rumored type chart, I'm just going to go ahead and call it fake right now.
That's exactly what i thought when i saw the chart, especially since a new type being introduced seems less likely by the day, at least to me.
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Old May 9th, 2013, 01:09 PM
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The only problem with them continuing to hold it out is that we're pretty much losing things to talk about. I mean, sure, new people will always discover it and they will be able to try to speculate on it, but other than that the topics have run dry. Maybe a crazy theory will come out every now again (with the latest trend being that of a Fairy type), but otehrwise it's just boring. It'd be smarter just to share it at this point, as people don't like to be patient =P I understand why they think holding out might be a smart move (and heck, it might even work out better for them), but it's just annoying at this point =P
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Old May 9th, 2013, 01:13 PM
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Oh don't get me wrong, it's definitely annoying and I'm hating all this waiting and speculating. And as you said, there isn't really anything much to say about it, so i'd be really thankful if they finally revealed it
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Old May 9th, 2013, 01:46 PM
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At this point, I'd rather speculate about it's competitive ability and it's movepool rather than it's type. .___. That's something that I feel would greatly interest me, but sadly that isn't going to be revealed for a while. xD
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Old May 9th, 2013, 01:48 PM
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At this point, I'd rather speculate about it's competitive ability and it's movepool rather than it's type. .___. That's something that I feel would greatly interest me, but sadly that isn't going to be revealed for a while. xD
The only problem there is that it's extremely difficult to speculate on that until we see it's typing =P I mean, we know it will generally have the same moves that all the Eeveelutions tend to share, but what usually sets them apart is just stat distribution and type-specific moves/abilities. It definitely would be more fun to speculate, but the two things kind of go hand in hand.
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You forgot Salamence, Garchomp, Latios, Latias, and Hydreigon. The Latis, in particular, are also common in VGCs, not just Smogon's metagame. Also, keep in mind that Ice Beam and Stone Edge are one of the main reasons why Water and Fighting/Ground are dominant in the first place (Water outclasses Ice for doing everything better, Ground outclasses Rock in terms of offense, and Fighting are equiped with powerful coverage moves).



By that logic, GF shouldn't have made Steel and Dark, because the best way to fix Psychic types back in that day was more Bug and Ghost Pokemon and more Bug and Ghost moves. They also would've given one of the two types a resistance to Psychic types when redoing the type chart.



Game Freak has stated that they do keep an eye on the metagame to see what needs to be fixed based on how often the Pokemon is used. Whether we like it or not, our metagame is slowly being accepted to our community and may someday replace GF's metagame.



So you wish to see Poison types suffer in the low tiers for lacking any boosts? Then what's the point having Poison types in the first place if they're neverused?
Gamefreak watches their own meta. That is all they concern themselves with. They honestly couldn't give a load about Smogon or any other site that runs their own rules on Pokemon battles. The Dragons you named would STILL be on top of everyone's VGC teams because of how strong they are individually. Garchomp can rape without Dragon attacks. Hydreigon can rape without Dragon Attacks. They can all deal massive damage without one of their two types because they have high stats. Three of which are Pseudo and the other two are legendary so they already top over most Pokemon with their 600 BST. A Clefable will not stop their use. (Latter two have their personal item banned from tournament use.)

Blissey already attempts to wall them and is already OU. her changing to Fairy won't change her status nor would her status change how other Pokemon are used to counter her. If anything they've just weakened all of the normal Type Pokemon that shift over. They keep their no bonus vs anything but gain more weaknesses with an unbalanced immunity and Resistance to make them of any real use.

Not all types are made to be powerful. Poison types are made to be weak because their attacks deal extra damage over time. Their use is simply to get in, hit and get out for later if at all possible. The type chart doesn't need any unnecessary balances.

Psychic type in Gen 1 was also the end all beat all type along with Dragon. Ghost, Normal, and Bug were also types that had major changes done to their lists. It wasn't just because of the inclusion of Steel and Dark. The entire list was remodeled to weaken Dragon and Psychic. Such a case does not exist in today's game play.

Even with the mock up we got, it hasn't a high chance to change much at all. Only Pokemon that are already in OU that were listed is Blissey. All of the others are already bottom rung or close to so them gaining more weaknesses would push them even lower and would only really have an effect on NU. Currently shown info barely does anything as far as changes are concerned except weaken already weak Pokemon.
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Old May 9th, 2013, 04:35 PM
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I agree, July is too long to wait. Another two months of type guessing and I think we'll all go insane. Or new Pokémon to revive speculation.
More likely everyone saying "Yup, I knew that..."

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The episode of Japanese variety show, Pokémon Smash, due to air on May 19th is said to be a massive Pokémon X & Y special featuring Junichi Masuda with lots of information promised. It is likely that this information will be revealed in CoroCoro, which is due for release in Japan on Wednesday, so we could have it any time between now and then, so keep checking back.
Lots of information, eh? New Pokémon? Type revelations? Region name? Town and city names? Characters? I think I'll get my hopes up this time.
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Old May 9th, 2013, 09:42 PM
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Lots of information, eh? New Pokémon? Type revelations? Region name? Town and city names? Characters? I think I'll get my hopes up this time.
It could very well be the region, and the main characters, and rival. Hopefully Smash will show a new trailer, that way we can see the game in action. However most of the info will proably be released in Corocoro and the main sight before Smash comes, unless they put some news aside from the magazine for the episode, but I don't think that's that case.
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Old May 9th, 2013, 09:46 PM
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Moe info on what jsziede mentioned:

According to Pokemon's Japanese website, Junichi Masuda will be appearing on Pokemon Smash May 19th (18th everywhere else.) with lots of info on X and Y, particularly on Slyveon and the new Mewtwo form. (Or at least that's what the screenshot indicates. )


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(May 19th PokeSmash) "The god of Pokemon Games, Mr. Masuda, will come to the studio and give us LOTS of surprising new info (on Pokemon X/Y)!"
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This could mean we finally will get to know Sylveon's typing! I also hope we get some more new info too as well, like new Pokemon and what the new region map looks like and possibly it's name too.

There's also the possibility of info leaked from May's CoroCoro soon since this is the time it's usually leaked. So look forward to that too.
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Old May 9th, 2013, 09:56 PM
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Moe info on what jsziede mentioned:

According to Pokemon's Japanese website, Junichi Masuda will be appearing on Pokemon Smash May 19th (18th everywhere else.) with lots of info on X and Y, particularly on Slyveon and the new Mewtwo form. (Or at least that's what the screenshot indicates. )




http://www.pokemon.co.jp/anime/smash/

This could mean we finally will get to know Sylveon's typing! I also hope we get some more new info too as well, like new Pokemon and what the new region map looks like and possibly it's name too.

There's also the possibility of info leaked from May's CoroCoro soon since this is the time it's usually leaked. So look forward to that too.
I sure hope so. I wonder what they'll say about Mewtwo's forme though...other than how we may obtain it that is, it seems too early to be telling us how it changes forme though. I don't beleive Kyurem's forme change method was revealed until after the game was out...
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Oh man i can't wait to finally have some legit new info on X/Y!
Hopefully they reveal Sylveon's typing, so we can move away from the
type speculation onto things like possible stats and movesets.
Regarding NewMew, i hope they reveal some info on if it will have anything to do
with the storyline of X/Y? I mean, Mewtwo has been around for years, why give
him a new form now? So i hope we'll be getting details on that.

I would also be interested in having more info on the starters on their evos, maybe revealing some other new pokes, details on the National Dex and how big it's going to be. Revealing some new gameplay mechanics would be awesome too, and i'd love to see some more screenshots from the cities we are going to visit in the new games
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i really hope they will reveal sylveon's type, information bout the region and even tell us a little bit about the story line
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There have been a few complaints about how discussion has been going around in circles and people getting tired of talking about the same thing again and again, so I called up GameFreak and told Masuda to make sure they release something BIG this month.



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i really hope they will reveal sylveon's type, information bout the region and even tell us a little bit about the story line
I wouldn't hold out much hope for that last bit there, as we almost never get details on the storyline until after the game's release.

I'm hoping we get to see some new native Gen VI Pokémon, learn the region name, maybe see a piece of the map, finally learn the types of Xerneas, Yveltal, and Sylveon, and maybe get some protagonist artwork. They've been so slow with news these past few months, it's about time they started picking up their feet and began to actually promote these games.
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It could very well be the region, and the main characters, and rival. Hopefully Smash will show a new trailer, that way we can see the game in action. However most of the info will proably be released in Corocoro and the main sight before Smash comes, unless they put some news aside from the magazine for the episode, but I don't think that's that case.
I was expecting the new trailer to be revealed in Nintendo Direct rather than Smash, because that will attract more audiences outside of the Pokemon community to be hyped up for the game.
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Just a reminder to everyone. "Big" announcements don't mean what we always think they mean. It can literally be 1 new Pokemon or they may give us a new video of Xerneaus and Yveltal in their proper game graphics.

What ever Smash has to say keep your expectations low so you don't get disappointed.

Though....Watch Sylveon Dragon Type for the lulz

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I was expecting the new trailer to be revealed in Nintendo Direct rather than Smash, because that will attract more audiences outside of the Pokemon community to be hyped up for the game.
I don't expect Nintendo to do any more revealing for Pokemon especially since they aren't hosting a major presentation at E3 this year.
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There have been a few complaints about how discussion has been going around in circles and people getting tired of talking about the same thing again and again, so I called up GameFreak and told Masuda to make sure they release something BIG this month.
You're doing a fantastic jo-...hey, WAIT...

The fact that the big guy is scheduled to be on Smash in mid-May is telling. This will be a big month, folks. I'll eat my shirt if I'm wrong.

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Well I wonder what else they have to announce, I don't think Sylveon's typing along would be branded as a " a massive Pokémon X & Y special featuring Junichi Masuda with lots of information promised". Hopefully we'll get that and more by the looks of things.
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Just a reminder to everyone. "Big" announcements don't mean what we always think they mean. It can literally be 1 new Pokemon or they may give us a new video of Xerneaus and Yveltal in their proper game graphics.

What ever Smash has to say keep your expectations low so you don't get disappointed.

Though....Watch Sylveon Dragon Type for the lulz



I don't expect Nintendo to do any more revealing for Pokemon especially since they aren't hosting a major presentation at E3 this year.
True, however Sylveon's type doesn't warrant as a big announcement for me, however it will be a big relief to finally know. Hopefully Corocoro will really have something worthy of being called big if Smash doesn't.
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