X/Y General Chat and Speculation

[vaporeon7]

I suppose if they really wanted to, they could have one or two days a week at like the Safari Zone where they make it like a contest, if they didn't want to create two separate locations.

[Forever]

Originally Posted by vaporeon7

I hope they include events like the Bug Catching Contest. Maybe a fishing competition?

And a park, a lovely park so I can frolic in the pretty flowers with my Pokémon and blah blah blah...

Yeah I want a bug catching contest too. It was lots of fun in the original Johto games and if day/night makes a return like we'll hopefully see it'll be very awesome. Imagine bug catching at night with the stars ~above~ you!

[MegamanDX]

LALALALALALA....OOOOOOOHHH! Look what I have found!!!
http://images.4chan.org/vp/src/1359934767738.jpg

lalalalalalalala....(I think this picture is just a rumor)

[Pinkie-Dawn]

Originally Posted by MegamanDX

LALALALALALA....OOOOOOOHHH! Look what I have found!!!
http://images.4chan.org/vp/src/1359934767738.jpg

lalalalalalalala....(I think this picture is just a rumor)

It was already confirmed to be fake by 4chan, because the artwork came from dA.

[Aerilyn]

I'm more curious about what's on the bottom right corner. That looks cool!

[Forever]

Also that fox looks like the R (idk letter R was related to her name) girl owned in Digimon series three which would've also made it unlikely to be real. :x buuuuuut other mons have been similar to Digimon before I guess.

[XanderO]

Originally Posted by Forever

Also that fox looks like the R (idk letter R was related to her name) girl owned in Digimon series three which would've also made it unlikely to be real. :x buuuuuut other mons have been similar to Digimon before I guess.

Rika, from Digimon Tamers and Renamon. Which...most people are saying that worst case scenario is Fennekin's final form is Fire/Fighting looking like Renamon.

[Forever]

YEAH THAT. Honestly I don't want Fennekin to look like that but now I'm thinking about it more it's one of the routes they unfortunately could take and people complained about Zekrom/Reshiram looking like Yu-Gi-Oh creatures OH NO. :(

[Magmaruby and Aquasapphire]

Yeah, while I love that digimon I hope Fennekin isn't a Fire/fighting, we've had too many for now. I hope it's Fire/Psychic instead.

[Cerberus87]

Heh, the new batch is at least better than 3rd gen, usually you ask a 3rd gen fan what are their favorite Pokémon and they all say "I liek Mudkipz" and "Sceptile Flygon Salamence Metagross OMGZ!!!11" because that's pretty much all of the good looking Pokémon in 3rd gen. Whereas 5th gen, with the natural exception of Garbodor, had tons of great and actually usable Pokémon.

I think 5th gen's biggest disappointment were the starters, they weren't very powerful or unique like for example 4th gen which IMO had the best starters.

[vaporeon7]

I loved all of the third gens Pokémon (except Shiftry).

One thing I want is more priority moves, like a priority grass move.

[Zupplu]

I'm opposed to having more priorty moves, I like them being unique and wouldn't like more Pokemon being able to use them.

[vaporeon7]

I would like to see at least one more special one. Vacuum Wave irks me.

[HRforges]

Originally Posted by Forever

Design-wise they may suck buuut as long as they are good competitive-wise, then I'm p sure I'll be pleased with them. :3 For example, I dislike Skuntank in general but in NU I embrace it.

I agree.

In fact most pokes i dont even care about thier looks or how they go in competitive because i would use them regardless in the story mode, kinda like beedrill in rgb except it looks awesome, but i use it regardless, i dont know why but some pokes are hard not to love, like audino! It gives alot of experience and wilst you are whailing on it it will heal you

[vaporeon7]

From what the trailer says, Audino will be in the regional dex. At least training will be less tedious again.

[Forever]

Originally Posted by HRforges

I agree.

In fact most pokes i dont even care about thier looks or how they go in competitive because i would use them regardless in the story mode, kinda like beedrill in rgb except it looks awesome, but i use it regardless, i dont know why but some pokes are hard not to love, like audino! It gives alot of experience and wilst you are whailing on it it will heal you:)

ya Audino is awesome, totally need moar Audino in gen 6.

Originally Posted by Zupplu

I'm opposed to having more priorty moves, I like them being unique and wouldn't like more Pokemon being able to use them.

But rock ones could be very useful :3 and could defs help out the really slow ones like Golemmm.

[Cerberus87]

Originally Posted by Forever

Design-wise they may suck buuut as long as they are good competitive-wise, then I'm p sure I'll be pleased with them. :3 For example, I dislike Skuntank in general but in NU I embrace it.

Sorry to sound contentious but doesn't the fact Skuntank is NU mean it sucks competitive-wise as opposed to being good? I mean, it might be good in NU but being good in NU doesn't say a lot about that Pokémon's power. NU is a rejects tier.

The lower tiers are a reality but, when the chips are down (e.g. in tournaments), no use will use Pokémon below BL. Lower tiers are just fun-tiers.

(and yes I hate tiers)

Which is why I hope Gamefreak revolutionizes the battle system in 6th gen. I mean, we're using the current system since 3rd gen, with only one major modification (the Physical/Special move split). They need to do something to make rejected Pokémon more viable. No, I don't want Butterfree to be stronger than Dragonite, it wouldn't make sense since Caterpie is a common bug whereas Dratini is a rare mythical Pokémon. But I want Butterfree to at least stand a chance of winning.

[Forever]

Originally Posted by Cerberus87

Sorry to sound contentious but doesn't the fact Skuntank is NU mean it sucks competitive-wise as opposed to being good? I mean, it might be good in NU but being good in NU doesn't say a lot about that Pokémon's power.

The lower tiers are a reality but, when the chips are down (e.g. in tournaments), no use will use Pokémon below BL. Lower tiers are just fun-tiers.

(and yes I hate tiers)

Nah there's lots of Pokemon in lower tiers that are very viable in OU, for example Sawsbuck and Amoonguss, it's just that they're outclassed by other things most of the time, or don't get enough usage to be in the higher tiers. It's not that they suck it's just that they aren't used enough in the higher tiers really. Because as I mentioned, Sawsbuck can be an amazing OU sun sweeper and OHKO a lot of mons, etc.

Also I hope NU gets a lot of positive changes and things that can help out the current psychic domination in gen 6. :3

[Cerberus87]

Originally Posted by Forever

Nah there's lots of Pokemon in lower tiers that are very viable in OU, for example Sawsbuck and Amoonguss, it's just that they're outclassed by other things most of the time, or don't get enough usage to be in the higher tiers. It's not that they suck it's just that they aren't used enough in the higher tiers really. Because as I mentioned, Sawsbuck can be an amazing OU sun sweeper and OHKO a lot of mons, etc.

Also I hope NU gets a lot of positive changes and things that can help out the current psychic domination in gen 6. :3

But the thing is, they aren't used because they're outclassed, or they're hard to use. And also because most players prefer the smooth sailing provided by having a Garchomp, Terrakion or Reuniclus in their teams.

What I really wish is that NU becomes a place for Pokémon which aren't supposed to battle, like Unown and similar things. It's really difficult to balance 300+ evolved Pokémon plus Eviolite-NFE, though.

[vaporeon7]

Originally Posted by Cerberus87

But the thing is, they aren't used because they're outclassed, or they're hard to use. And also because most players prefer the smooth sailing provided by having a Garchomp, Terrakion or Reuniclus in their teams.

What I really wish is that NU becomes a place for Pokémon which aren't supposed to battle, like Unown and similar things. It's really difficult to balance 300+ evolved Pokémon plus Eviolite-NFE, though.

Actually in my experience in battling competitions, I'd say more than half of the top players used Amoonguss.

[Forever]

Originally Posted by Cerberus87

But the thing is, they aren't used because they're outclassed, or they're hard to use. And also because most players prefer the smooth sailing provided by having a Garchomp, Terrakion or Reuniclus in their teams.

What I really wish is that NU becomes a place for Pokémon which aren't supposed to battle, like Unown and similar things. It's really difficult to balance 300+ evolved Pokémon plus Eviolite-NFE, though.

Still doesn't mean they're bad though, really. ;( Some good mons are just used less, that's all.

And I would not want that for gen 6 at all. NU is a great metagame, and the things that shouldn't battle are really PU/NFE etc. NU in gen 6 is something I reallyyyy want. :3

[vaporeon7]

Who knows? Some Pokémon might get a huge turnaround like Politoed did. It was never used in Gen IV and now it's one of the most common Pokémon in OU. All it really takes is one major addition and it can change everything. An NU Pokémon like Vanilluxe would definitely move up a couple of tiers if it got another ability like Snow Warning.

[Suicune™]

Cloyster became a real competitor once it gained Shell Smash too, I can see something similar happening to Pokemon that are currently in the NU tier.

[vaporeon7]

I kinda hope some of my favourites get a big boost. It wouldn't be too over the top for Beedrill to get Speed Boost would it?

[Suicune™]

I'd like Beedrill to get a boost too, a BST of 385 is pretty poor given that it's at the final evolution. If it were to gain Speed Boost I think Butterfree would have to get an equally enhancing ability, same goes for Dustox & Beautifly.