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Old January 9th, 2013, 08:22 AM
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Not sure if many of you would know this, but since Pokemon X&Y will be on 3DS, that means there will NOT be any RNG abuse for quite some time. I've spoken with quite a few experts on the subject that I keep in my company, and the 3DS has NOT been cracked yet and the ROMs are encrypted. There is no emulator for them to RAM watch in.

How will this affect you? Will it make you more likely or less likely to enjoy the game?

Thoughts?

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Old January 9th, 2013, 08:25 AM
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I've never really RNG'd much to begin with, so this won't interfere with my enjoyment of the game~
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Old January 9th, 2013, 08:28 AM
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I never bother with Shinies or IV's anyway so this doesn't really affect me but I can imagine it would spark some controversy for Shiny Hunters.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 08:52 AM
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I don't RNG but I don't think this is a good thing. :( I mean, it'll change DS competitive completely, because unless you're extremely lucky you aren't going to get good IVs. Perhaps it'll make more people revert to simulators. it'll also make my good IV but not perfect mons seem okay if I traded them to gen 6!!!
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Old January 9th, 2013, 08:53 AM
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Woot? Seriously? RNGing for in-game? There's no point at all.

When we talk about competitive... I hope we'll get some evolutions of Pokemon that had been already released so I won't bother with 6th Gen RNG for quite a bit. Also, seeing how RNG mechanics got easier in BW and BW2, I think this will be the case in 6th Gen so it will stay easy.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 08:53 AM
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This greatly affects me for the time being, mainly because of playing in VGCs which you need flawless mons to even stay competitive. I'm sure they will figure it out eventually, it's going to really take some time but I'm sure some of the people that I know will figure out how to crack it. Also because it is a world wide release, we don't have a shot of doing it before like we have in the past. Meaning the first time we get to see any type of RNG is when the game is released, and that's not just here in the US it's anywhere. I'm sure eventually they will crack it, I have faith in OD (Omega Donut).
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Old January 9th, 2013, 08:57 AM
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Competitive will take a hit, but there are still flawless Ditto you can import (assuming we can import) so IV breeding will become a much more viable option when trying to use 6th gen mons. Otherwise, all the existing Pokemon can still be RNGed. I don't really RNG, but I do see the potential for this to ruin CB for a while.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 08:57 AM
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If they introduce a way to transfer GenV to GenVI then Pokemon could be RNG'd on there (With the exception of GenVI Poke's)
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Old January 9th, 2013, 08:59 AM
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Up the traffic in trade corner, yes yes? /rubs hands eagerly
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Old January 9th, 2013, 08:59 AM
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Nope~! I tried RNGing a few times, found out that it just wasn't for me. XD So I don't think it'll really affect me a bit~
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Old January 9th, 2013, 09:00 AM
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Up the traffic in trade corner, yes yes? /rubs hands eagerly
Indeed, this could very well help revive trading. I'm very excited about it -- Blade and I have spoken at length on the subject already!
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Old January 9th, 2013, 09:20 AM
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While I RNG, this shouldn't affect me too much. I'm already quite satisfied with Gen V RNGing. Like what Griffinbane and Mac has said, because of this, more people should start coming by the Trade Corner, which is something I would be looking foward to.

Also I'm long overdue when it comes to learning IV breeding anyways. Though I could wait until Gen VI to learn.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 09:33 AM
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It pretty much means back to IV breeding new pokemon for all of us, yay! But since we can still RNG the old ones, gen 5 will still be widely used, I'll bet. Still, this sorta disappoints me because with new gen already coming out (BW didn't come out THAT long ago!), gen 5 battles and rulesets and EVERYTHING official wifi is already defunct.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 12:21 PM
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I breed for IV all the time. Much easier than RGN. That stuff will melt your brain just reading about it! Too complex for me.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 12:27 PM
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At first I didn't care about it and then I saw the trailer...
Now I'm really sad I won't be able to RNG some Gen 6 cuties.
I have IV bred before and will do it if I have too. :/
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Old January 9th, 2013, 12:28 PM
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I still have no idea how to RNG exactly, so I don't have much problem with it. However, I understand that it's one of the most significant ways to get ideal Pokemon for competitive battling, so I do feel for those people.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 12:29 PM
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This greatly affects me for the time being, mainly because of playing in VGCs which you need flawless mons to even stay competitive.
If nobody has access to PRNG abuse to get perfect Pokémon, then why would you need to have access to that to compete in tournaments?
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Old January 9th, 2013, 12:44 PM
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As long as we can still migrate forward, we can have perfect Pokemon from every generation but this new one. Could that affect the usage of the newer Pokemon as not everyone will be able to make them super awesome? Maybe.

Then again, if they can't fix the GTS exploit, people can make perfectly legal looking Pokemon on their computers and "trade" them into their games, so it probably won't make a difference. If people want to stay competitive but can't RNG, they'll migrate forward and GTS exploit in those they can't.

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Old January 9th, 2013, 12:47 PM
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I never used RNG in my life and I don't plan to. So this really don't affect me at all
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Old January 9th, 2013, 02:51 PM
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I actually have no idea what RNG abuse is and what it entails. The only thing I ever really do is soft reset for shinies (with no hacking device, because they are ew), so as long as it doesn't interfere with that I won't be bothered in the slightest bit.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 02:55 PM
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If nobody has access to PRNG abuse to get perfect Pokémon, then why would you need to have access to that to compete in tournaments?
He didn't say you that need them to be in the tournament themselves. You can go compete with normal or IV bred Pokemon if you wish to do so. What he meant was that in order to have a higher chance of winning or qualifying for any higher tournaments, RNGed Pokemon are ideal since they have the upper hand in terms of IVs and such.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 03:02 PM
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It kinda sucks that I won't be able to RNG all the new Pokémon. I guess it will be more simulator battling for everyone then.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 04:02 PM
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Same with some of the others here.. I don't really know how to RNG and don't REALLY know how it even works.. so this isn't gonna affect me at all :3
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Old January 9th, 2013, 04:23 PM
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I haven't RNGed since Diamond and Pearl, so I guess I'm OK with it. But this probably will be sad for some people who really want a pokemon shiny, or RNG for competitive battling.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 04:31 PM
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Yeah I'm ok with it too as I've never RNG'd and it might be sad for those who want a shiny, but I think they should be randomly found not like "oh here's one, and here's one and there too!" xD but for competitive battling, that might suck for people since it might take forever to get a pokemon with all 31 IV's
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