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Actually the "feather" is shaped like it's ear more than a "feather", and it being inside an "egg" doesn't mean much, as Dragons and Bugs lay eggs too. Also the "egg" could be a cocoon.
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It kinda would freak me out if it wasn't a new type. I mean, all the other Eeveelutions have looked just like their type, but people are having quite a hard time with this one.

Based on that trailer I would say either Light or Magic type. (That could either be awesome or lame depending on how you read that.)

Edit: I really don't think that the trailer helps much if I can't narrow it down to one typing though.
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If GF would reveal Sylveon's species (like how Flareon is the Flame Pokémon), we can almost savely confirm what type it is.
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The fact that they have left it unannounced for so long could may well indicate that they're introducing a new type, it wouldn't be the first time to do it and it would actually kinda make sense at this point imo.
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The fact that they have left it unannounced for so long could may well indicate that they're introducing a new type, it wouldn't be the first time to do it and it would actually kinda make sense at this point imo.
Only reason I can see as to why they haven't said anything is because its supposed to be revealed in the Mini Movie in July. That's the only reason I see as to why Sylveon doesn't have any more info on it. Doubt its a new type right now.
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I'm starting to think that Slyveon might be Bug Type: It has big buggy eyes and is the lightest Eevee. The ribbons may act as an antenae for it. Itslogo on the Eevee and friends thing looks like a Butterfly. And the Egg in its logo could represent a coccoon, as some type of metamorphosis. One thing against this in that Bug has no relation to Electric as its across from Jolteon on that chart. As Eevee is a mammal, a Bug type Eevee won't look like a conventional Bug type so Slyveon fits in perfectly.
This, 100%. I already stated in another post that I think Sylveon will be Bug type based on the newest evidence, but this is another excellent summary for it.

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I believe that Sylveon is a Flying type.

Ever heard of Sylph? They're mythological spritis (or fairies) that "ride the wind" and belong to the element of air.

If the name Sylveon has a connection to that mythological creature, then it would be safe to assume that the new Eeveelution is a Flying type.
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Quote originally posted by XanderO:
Only reason I can see as to why they haven't said anything is because its supposed to be revealed in the Mini Movie in July. That's the only reason I see as to why Sylveon doesn't have any more info on it. Doubt its a new type right now.
At this point, even though it's an awfully long ways away, I can see them waiting to reveal its type by the time of the movie's release. Although, I can't say the hype of speculating what it is will be the same by that time. I mean, three months from now, people can only speculate the same thing again and again so much before it just becomes pointless and repetitive. I don't think it'll be a new type, but a new type would certainly make the long wait worth it at least.
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Ah so we have to wait until July. At least now I know when to expect the revelation of its type.
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Well if a slyph is a flying fairy like creature, then can't the fairy type theory become a possibility?
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I can see a Fairy type happening, there are a lot of fairy like Pokemon and it's a type I can potentially see being added and I can see Sylveon being a fairy type. The wing pattern thing could signify this as fairies usually have wings.
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Fairies are also associated with nature, and thus far all the eeveelutions are associated with some aspect of nature, water, lightning, flame, forest, glacier, night, day. So it's possible.
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I am pro-Fairy type. This was discussed earlier and I honestly think if there had to be a new type and one that could fit Sylveon's appearance, then a Fairy type would be it. It could be a new "special" type and it the next mythical and rare type next to Dragons.
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Mmmmm....I will always be on the fence when considering a new type, especially when concerning Sylveon. I'm very adamant that it very well could be an existing type, but I wouldn't be against a new type by any means. As I mentioned countless times, just as long as it makes sense, and fits somehow competitively, then I wouldn't mind!

That being said though, at first I thought Dragon-types would somehow fit under fairies...and then I immediately thought of Garchomp and dismissed the idea.

I would love a Fairy-type though~! Unsure of whether or not I expressed my opinion on this type specifically, but regardless...after giving it a bit of thought, it definitely wouldn't hurt.
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Quote originally posted by XanderO:
I think you misunderstand your own post. No the special type pattern hasn't been broken. All 7 eevee evolutions are special typed just as they've always been mono typed. Its the same argument. They've been special typed just as they've been mono typed. While there is no possible damage done with them not following it, there's no damage with making a dual typed evolution either. Both have roughly the same chance of happening. But eevee's evolutions being special typed is as true as them being mono typed.
I did not misunderstand my own post, I feel like you're just not getting it. What I was saying is that, especially to newer audiences who've joined later in the series and may not have tried the older games yet, something like each eeveelution representing a different (sole) type is much, MUCH more noticeable than the whole past(key word here too) special/physical argument.

I was not arguing against there being just as much of a chance of dual typing happening, I was arguing that,due to what I stated before about it being less noticeable, generally speaking, it wouldn't be as big a deal. It'd be a lot more passable to ruin that physical/special 'pattern'(which people are more likely to not be as aware of, and wouldn't do any harm) than it would be to ruin something that's much more easily noticed by everyone, whether they joined early or late(each one looking to represent a different mono-type).

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At this point, even though it's an awfully long ways away, I can see them waiting to reveal its type by the time of the movie's release. Although, I can't say the hype of speculating what it is will be the same by that time. I mean, three months from now, people can only speculate the same thing again and again so much before it just becomes pointless and repetitive. I don't think it'll be a new type, but a new type would certainly make the long wait worth it at least.
I'm starting to agree with this slightly. If they didn't plan on releasing the true thing until the movie is here, then it would seem they definitely revealed Sylveon way too early. In the end, I wouldn't be bothered if it was either an old or new type, but, if they are holding the final info all that time, I'd be much more satisfied with a new type really.
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I believe that Sylveon is a Flying type.

Ever heard of Sylph? They're mythological spritis (or fairies) that "ride the wind" and belong to the element of air.

If the name Sylveon has a connection to that mythological creature, then it would be safe to assume that the new Eeveelution is a Flying type.
See an earlier post of mine here.

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Now, we know the Japanese name 'Ninfia'

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In French however Ninfia is known as Nymphali = Nymph = Woodland forest creature.

However, when you translate Nymphale (sounding a lot like Nymphali) into English you get 'Pupal'

Which is defined by the English dictionary as:

"The nonfeeding stage between the larva and adult in the metamorphosis of holometabolous insects, during which the larva typically undergoes complete transformation within a protective cocoon or hardened case."
He did change the word slightly, but we don't know what Gamefreak used. So really, it's still in the air.

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Quote originally posted by Chatot Lover:
I believe that Sylveon is a Flying type.

Ever heard of Sylph? They're mythological spritis (or fairies) that "ride the wind" and belong to the element of air.

If the name Sylveon has a connection to that mythological creature, then it would be safe to assume that the new Eeveelution is a Flying type.
You are using the wrong name to associate a type. You'd have to go with the Japanese name which is Nymph which sadly isn't associated with any one specific elemental type.

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Well if a slyph is a flying fairy like creature, then can't the fairy type theory become a possibility?
Sylphs are spirits not fairies.

Pokejungle also recently posted that the guy that drew mock ups of Gen 5 Pokemon is saying that Fairy is a new type. They say he has a lot of credit since so far he has yet to be wrong on anything so we'll see.

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I did not misunderstand my own post, I feel like you're just not getting it. What I was saying is that, especially to newer audiences who've joined later in the series and may not have tried the older games yet, something like each eeveelution representing a different (sole) type is much, MUCH more noticeable than the whole past(key word here too) special/physical argument.

I was not arguing against there being just as much of a chance of dual typing happening, I was arguing that,due to what I stated before about it being less noticeable, generally speaking, it wouldn't be as big a deal. It'd be a lot more passable to ruin that physical/special 'pattern'(which people are more likely to not be as aware of, and wouldn't do any harm) than it would be to ruin something that's much more easily noticed by everyone, whether they joined early or late(each one looking to represent a different mono-type).

Whether or not the arguments are similar is not the point.
Whether its newer info or not is not relevant. If newer players joined in then they only got a few new Eevee Evolutions depending on when they started seeing as the Physical/Special move split happens in Gen 4 when they introduced Glaceon and Leafeon only. So really they started with 2 Pokemon that has very little relevance to them always being Mono just as them always being Special typed has no relevance since they were special typed in Gen 3 right before Gen 4. Its only been 2 generations since that split, so Special typed pattern is still valid seeing as majority of them were introduced before the split.

You said specifically that them introducing a Non-Special type Eevee Evolution was more possible than them introducing a Dual typed Eevee Evolution. Yes you are arguing against the chances of Eevee's evolution changing. How noticeable it is doesn't change how relevant it is.

And yes how similar the arguments are is the point. Its the exact same argument with interchangeable words.
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You are using the wrong name to associate a type. You'd have to go with the Japanese name which is Nymph which sadly isn't associated with any one specific elemental type.
Well, just because its Japanese name is not associated with Sylph, it doesn't mean that the English name can't be taken as a hint or something.

I totally believe that Sylveon is a Flying type. Not only because of the name, but also because of the way its "ribbons" are waving to the side. http://images.vg247.com/current//2013/02/Sylveon_Nymphali_Feelinara-300dpi-478x600.jpg
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Haven't been on here in awhile but glad to see Sylveon still in discussion. I still think it's a Normal-type, too cute for anything else with the exception of Flying.
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Out of all the current types I do think Flying is the most plausible based on it's appearance, it has a similar structure to Shaymin Sky Forme which had no wings.
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Out of all the current types I do think Flying is the most plausible based on it's appearance, it has a similar structure to Shaymin Sky Forme which had no wings.
That's funny. Aside from Normal, Flying is - to me - the LEAST plausible type. Bug has become the new likely candidate for me. Those entrails are more Bug-like than Flying-like. I even put Dragon ahead of Flying as a possibility.

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I am definitely pro Fairy. Especially when it comes to Sylveon. All the other Eeveelutions look exactly like their type. You could look at them and immediately know. No speculation. That is what has bothered me about Sylveon. Sylveon, to me, looks Fairy like. At least more than anything else. I was pro Flying for a while, but it just doesn't settle right with me anymore. No type does, except Fairy. I'm really really hoping it's true, as long as they pull it off nicely.
To me, Fairy type would be very magical. It could be the "magic" type that was speculated.
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That's funny. Aside from Normal, Flying is - to me - the LEAST plausible type. Bug has become the new likely candidate for me. Those entrails are more Bug-like than Flying-like. I even put Dragon ahead of Flying as a possibility.

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A lot of people have put flying as a possibility primarily because of the Eeveelution typing chat, if you will, and how Jolteon would need to have an "opposite" in order to complete that circle. Now, subjective opinions about that typing chat itself aside, I feel that's just the primary basis of the Flying-type, as you wouldn't necessarily would have to have wings or anything of an obvious nature to be a flying-type, so I can definitely see where this is coming from. However, I feel that the only way Sylveon would be really able to fly is pretty much like Shaymin Sky. Other than that, it's pretty hard to say exactly in which manner it would fly, if it could fly at all, really.

Dragon as a type for it...I don't know, it really doesn't seem like the type that would learn Draco Meteor and Outrage. .___. This could be just me, but...unless GF is changing direction and making Pokemon's first cutesy eeveelution dragon-type, I just don't really see it all that much. I don't even really see bug all of that much because it's eyes are hardly a special indication of anything. Heck, how can it learn things like Bug Buzz as well as Quiver Dance, and other such Bug moves? I'm not going to go into too much detail with how it could pull off certain moves (because someone might come at me with "how can diglett learn scratch then??"), but my general point is that...well, what we know is that it's a soft/fuzzy like creature in a sense, and that it's physical anatomy matches a majority of Normal-types, however there seems to be doubt (or mixed opinions, rather) about Normal-types.

Ghost would be a possibility, but again, nothing really matches for Ghost. I'm pretty sure it can learn Shadow Ball, but then again, so can Vaporeon, Jolteon, Flareon, and basically pretty much almost all of the Eeveelutions, so that doesn't really scream a whole lot. x_x So really, the only possibility here is either Normal or a possible New type. But Normal would be inconsistent with the eeveelution typing chart, so...
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Whether its newer info or not is not relevant. If newer players joined in then they only got a few new Eevee Evolutions depending on when they started seeing as the Physical/Special move split happens in Gen 4 when they introduced Glaceon and Leafeon only. So really they started with 2 Pokemon that has very little relevance to them always being Mono just as them always being Special typed has no relevance since they were special typed in Gen 3 right before Gen 4. Its only been 2 generations since that split, so Special typed pattern is still valid seeing as majority of them were introduced before the split.
You're acting as if the previous eeveelutions were somehow thrown into the shadows when Leafeon and Glaceon hit the scene when they're still the same, in regards to mono-typing. Yes the physical/special split wasn't that long ago but the fact that they were split can also be used to argue against that having meaning when it comes to Sylveon.

Now can it be used as a reasoning? Sure, since it was more of a behind-the-scenes type thing and it makes sense to those who have noticed it. However, I personally am not buying it because of the split and for various other reasons, a big one being that it just doesn't scream dragon to me at all nor does it look like it could have any kind of story behind it leading to it being dragon-typed.


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You said specifically that them introducing a Non-Special type Eevee Evolution was more possible than them introducing a Dual typed Eevee Evolution. Yes you are arguing against the chances of Eevee's evolution changing. How noticeable it is doesn't change how relevant it is.

And yes how similar the arguments are is the point. Its the exact same argument with interchangeable words.
Seems you have missed some things I've said or you'd realize I meant, and said, that it would be more passable to ruin the physical/special concept than it would be to ruin the much more obvious mono-typing concept, for reasons I stated before.

I brought up the points I did to show why I disagreed with what Pinkie had talked on about, not that it's something that is completely shattered. Below, in bold, is the reason I went on why I did about mono-typing:
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Despite the Physical/Special split in Gen IV, Eevee still managed to received two new evolutions that were formerly special-based, Grass and Ice, which means game mechanic changes have no effect on patterns/traditions, which are important models on what to expect on the next game to prevent gamers from being overhyped on things that'll never happen due to patterns/traditions.
Now where is the importance behind something hidden like that(and would have pretty much no consequences if 'broken') and how can it really be considered in the leagues of tradition(since that was brought up to defend it)? If we get a physical-type, ok...we'll just get them all one way or another eventually, nothing really bothersome there; the split makes this more debatable anyways(since it's former status has indeed been broken). Mono-typing, so far, has yet to have any kind of break to it and is looking to have a pretty high chance of staying that way and going on to represent the whole idea behind eevee and it's evolutions. In other words, it so far has more importance to the line than whether or not a former special or physical-typing comes next.

It isn't 100%, though I believe it is, because we're only halfway through all types, but anyone, whether they started with Red or just joined in with Black 2, can look at the eeveelution line and have a much, much better chance at noticing 'monotype' than they would 'they all are past special-types so far'(especially if they haven't played any previous games and, even then, it's not as noticeable). Both arguments are there, hidden or not, but the former would have a bigger impact were it to be broken than the latter. That's what I was getting at; I wasn't completely trying to destroy the latter concept.

I'm not even sure why this escalated to where it is.
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Unless I'm hugely missing something, why does it really matter whether or not the tradition of eevee's evolutions being "special-typed" is broken or not? It seems that, the more that I look at it, that it seems like something that's likely to happen anyway, sooner or later. But like I said, I could be missing something here. I was merely skimming through this entire debate, after all. x_x
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