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Old May 11th, 2013 (08:06 AM).
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Quote originally posted by XanderO:
I don't see Bond system replacing the friendship system because of how many Pokemon evolve by friendship and the fact that the bond is supposed to increase stats based on what the narrator says. With that I don't see it playing a part in Sylveon's evolution either. I'm going to guess its a new item native to the new region.
And even ignoring Sylveon a moment...Espeon and Umbreon are friendship evolutions. There has to be a unique way to bring about Sylveon.

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Old May 11th, 2013 (08:25 AM).
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Well if you look at it, Every new eeveelution had a new way to evolve
- The first 3 are stone evolution
- GSC introduced Friendship, and that's how you get Umbreon and Espeon
- Leafeon and Glaceon are Location based evos, a new concept introduced in Gen4.

So i guess whatever way he evolves, it will be something new to the game.

I'm really curious about this bonding system now and how much it can actually improve the pokes stats
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So, checked out Pokejungle for the Smash review since I had to work for Smash...surprised no one posted this yet.

The hosts are testing which types Sylveon fits… what could it be?!
The hosts tested to see if Sylveon was Fighting – she failed.
Next they tested to see if she was strong against ice – she was!
She was strong against Ice, so they tested if she was Steel by using poison type on her – She wasn’t resistant


So she's STRONG against Ice. Meaning she either SE hits Ice or is Resistant to it.

SE hits = Fighting, Fire, Steel, and Rock
Resists = Fire, Ice, Steel, Water

Ok from this we can sorta rule out three
Fire, Water, and Ice. Why? Because we already have these three.

Next, they tested her to see if she was Fighting. No. So scratch that off the list.

They tested her to see if she was Steel. She failed the poison resistance test so she is not steel.

This leaves Rock........

Ok so far Rock is the only type on the list that hasn't been tested.

Existing type wise, I severely doubt this. So she has to be a new type. But if she is a new type, what was posted earlier about her being Fairy is wrong. Or at least the basic info is incorrect. Fairy is apparently SE or Resists Ice if it exists. If she isn't Fairy she is something else.

This all ignores the possibility that they shifted the type chart around as well. So we have 3 types we know that Sylveon is not and a more solid lead on what she can possibly be.
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You know this crossed my mind and I can't believe I didn't put this yet...

I think Sylveon is a gender-exclusive eevolution, because from its physical appearance, I think it's female and I think in order to obtain a Sylveon, they need a female Eevee, but the problem is... how can this work because friendship is already in use... does it need to hold a specific item?
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Quote originally posted by PokeRaidenFighter350Z:
You know this crossed my mind and I can't believe I didn't put this yet...

I think Sylveon is a gender-exclusive eevolution, because from its physical appearance, I think it's female and I think in order to obtain a Sylveon, they need a female Eevee, but the problem is... how can this work because friendship is already in use... does it need to hold a specific item?
Seriously hope it isn't Female only just because then its the same as Vespiquen. Combee and Eevee have the same gender Ratio and Vespiquen isn't really worth the effort to hunt down a female combee. Gender exclusives as in plural can be ruled out since the movie is supposed to showcase "all" Eevee Evolutions and it only shows 8. It has a good chance that it is normal ratio cause if its 100% Female I'm petitioning for Gamefreak to make Espeon, Vaporeon, Glaceon, and Leafeon female only because they are just as feminin with very little masculine qualities to be found. Umbreon and Jolteon should be made 100% Male as well.
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I really can't imagine them not giving away Sylveon's type after so long, if it isn't a new type. This also makes me think that the legendaries could possibly be new types as well since they are holding off on giving up their types as well? I mean especially since they gave up the new pokemons' type revealed in the corocoro scans so easily, it just makes me think they would have already given up the typings if they were not new types. I don't think Light or Fairy types will be a thing though. I also think it would be hard to introduce new types after 5 generations of pokemon. On the other hand though, why else would they keep these pokemons' type a secret for so long?
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Quote originally posted by Munchlax11:
I really can't imagine them not giving away Sylveon's type after so long, if it isn't a new type. This also makes me think that the legendaries could possibly be new types as well since they are holding off on giving up their types as well? I mean especially since they gave up the new pokemons' type revealed in the corocoro scans so easily, it just makes me think they would have already given up the typings if they were not new types. I don't think Light or Fairy types will be a thing though. I also think it would be hard to introduce new types after 5 generations of pokemon. On the other hand though, why else would they keep these pokemons' type a secret for so long?
Because they can. Sylveon plays an important role in its mini movie. So they don't want to ruin it with possible spoilers and apparently its type could be a possible spoiler. As for legends. I don't see why they should have to. Sure Zekrom and Reshiram were shown right off, Kyurem's forms took a while to be released if I remember right. Most thought that Kyurem would lose its Dragon typing for Zekrom and Reshiram's primary typings of Electric and Fire. I wasn't here for Gen 4, but from what my friends had told me they took a bit of time for revealing as well.

They don't have to give us the type if they don't want to. They think its building suspense and unlike how we usually respond internationally, the main focus usually has a positive reaction despite the length for mundane types.
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Screw it I'm on the new type bandwagon now. Why would they hide its type for so long if it were an existing one? It's mundane marketing if it was so it should be a new type.

Smash's findings seem to contradict the new rumors though. Based of Fairy type's strengths/weaknesses.
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Weak to Poison, strong against Water. They only way that's possible it Grass which has been done. New type definitely.
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Strong against Ice and weak to Poison... it doesn't look Flying so Grass/Flying is out of the question & so is Rock... what type is Sylveon!? I'm curious!
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Not Fighting: obviously.

Weak to Poison: Excellent!

Strong against Ice: Stop making Ice types an even worse defensive typing, Game Freak.

That's all I know about the common information regarding Sylveon from Smash. The rest I'm not even sure are true because other information about its type advantages and disadvantages varies from user to user such as it being weak to Rock or it being SE against Fire.
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If "Fairy" is strong against Ice, Ice will need more dual-typed Pokemon.
Maybe an Ice/Steel type with Technician + Frost Breath, an Ice/Fighting type with the same combo, and an Ice/Flying (Delibird is like, Snow/Flying XD).
I've also always wanted to see a Dark/Ice Pokemon (not like Sneasel and Weavile, but a dark type Pokemon with ice claws and/or mask).
Back on the Sylveon topic, yeah, it's a new type for sure.
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I don't think they meant she is weak to poison. I believe she is neutral to it. They were only trying to check if she was immune to poison aka steel type because the previous test showed she was strong against ice.

I think the big reveal on May 19th will indeed be Sylveon's type after all this non-sense testing that makes no sense so far. I use to think it was flying for sure, but now I am definetly leaning towards a new typing.
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I'm still going with Bu-...wait, you mean they aren't strong against Ice? All right, I'm clueless now.

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Quote originally posted by iRyahn:
I don't think they meant she is weak to poison. I believe she is neutral to it. They were only trying to check if she was immune to poison aka steel type because the previous test showed she was strong against ice.

I think the big reveal on May 19th will indeed be Sylveon's type after all this non-sense testing that makes no sense so far. I use to think it was flying for sure, but now I am definetly leaning towards a new typing.
Pokejungle edited their original translation to say that it was strong against her/she was weak to it. Still highly pointless add in, but there can be an error translating meaning. We have to wait until the type reveal in the next few weeks.
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So basically all this testing did was revealing nothing at all? Wow, awesome...
I guess they only wanted to start people speculating again, since the
testing was really cryptic and basically leaves us only with the option of Sylveon being a new type
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Like I said, they'll keep it a secret for as long as they possibly can, then either have it revealed in the movie itself or in the final trailer used to promote the movie in Japan (which still BTW get a film screening unlike here where they are only DVD releases or Cartoon Network debuts).

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They know what type it is, I think the skit was done to tease a little bit. It dosent seem like if you go by that that Sylveon is any current type.
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I don't really understand the logic of Fairy being super effective against ice. I can understand being weak to poison because they're so pure but not the ice part.

Are we sure it was showing that she was super effective against ice and not just regular effectiveness?
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Quote originally posted by Sabrewulf238:
I don't really understand the logic of Fairy being super effective against ice. I can understand being weak to poison because they're so pure but not the ice part.

Are we sure it was showing that she was super effective against ice and not just regular effectiveness?
Pure? Original incarnation of Fairy is evil and vile creatures that harm man for their own amusement. Fairy used to be what we'd call demons today. If anything weak to poison makes the least amount of sense and seems so incredibly pointless.
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Quote originally posted by Shiny Celebi:
They know what type it is, I think the skit was done to tease a little bit. It dosent seem like if you go by that that Sylveon is any current type.
Maybe not. Maybe the Sylveon cosplayer is the only one who knows in the group, as it must react in certain ways to the different types of environments. The rest may actually not know in order to minimize the chance of the secret leaking.

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Smash hosts can get inside info before its released to the public. Shoko-tan leaked Zekrom's type accidently. Im fairly sure the Smash hosts have probably been told Sylveon's type but were pretending not to know for the skit.
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Quote originally posted by Shiny Celebi:
Smash hosts can get inside info before its released to the public. Shoko-tan leaked Zekrom's type accidently. Im fairly sure the Smash hosts have probably been told Sylveon's type but were pretending not to know for the skit.
But if it's a new type, then all they might know is just that: "new type". They may not know the details yet.

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Smash hosts can get inside info before its released to the public. Shoko-tan leaked Zekrom's type accidently. Im fairly sure the Smash hosts have probably been told Sylveon's type but were pretending not to know for the skit.
Ah yes we all remembered that, the amount of people surprised by the revelation was priceless
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Ugh I really, really hope that it is not strong against Ice types if it is a new type. I'm so sick of Ice types being weak to everything and if anything Ice should resist the new type because it's getting really annoying.
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