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Old May 12th, 2013, 08:11 PM
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Same here, I actually hope Ice is super effective against the type...
Also as to why fairies may be weak against poison could be that in several legends nymphs and such creatures would become dry and would die if their lakes, streams, forests, etc. became polluted.
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Old May 12th, 2013, 10:06 PM
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Pure? Original incarnation of Fairy is evil and vile creatures that harm man for their own amusement. Fairy used to be what we'd call demons today. If anything weak to poison makes the least amount of sense and seems so incredibly pointless.
Except you know that there are many different incarnations of fairies. Not all of them vile or evil.

Considering this is pokemon we're talking about and we already have dark type pokemon. Plus that pokemon like Clefairy and Snubbull are supposed to be getting the fairy type. I would imagine fairy would cover the more pleasant, magical and whimsical kind of fairies.
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Old May 13th, 2013, 05:39 AM
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I see tradition fairies as being more amoral creatures than actually Vile, they did anything that would provide them entertainment be it good or bad, usually bad...
Anyways I do have a feeling like they may go for the Disney version but who knows...
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Except you know that there are many different incarnations of fairies. Not all of them vile or evil.

Considering this is pokemon we're talking about and we already have dark type pokemon. Plus that pokemon like Clefairy and Snubbull are supposed to be getting the fairy type. I would imagine fairy would cover the more pleasant, magical and whimsical kind of fairies.
No official source has said that either Clefairy or Snubbull are getting retyped. That appeared in many contradicting rumors which have all been proven as false thanks to Pokemon Smash last Saturday. So there are so far no Pokemon getting retyped. All previous rumors about Fairy type are false and have been proven to be so.

We know Sylveon is a new type, but its type hasn't been confirmed.
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Sprites, angels, orcs, goblins, ogres, nymphs, Celebi, they can all be Fairy type. Even myths like the Minotaur (I want Minotauros), Icarus etc. We've had mythical and fantasy creatures in Pokemon before, like fairies (again, Celebi), god, even Japanese myths like Futakuchi Onna (Mawile).
Fairy type can and will work.
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Faeries are the good guys. Pixies are the bad guys. That's how typical stories go, anyway.

Also, I read something interesting on Facebook, that Sylveon may be a "Magic" type because:

- It sports ties ("ribbons") and bows. Magicians wear ties and bows.
- Trailer moves feature cards, explosions and illusions. Magicians popularly use these tricks.
- Explosions would devastate ice, shattering it into pieces.
- Human Magicians would faint or die under poison.

Plausible, but there's also the idea that Light may be introduced, because sunlight could melt ice, too. Poison doesn't make much sense in this case, meh.

Regardless, I definitely think it's a new type now.
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Faeries are the good guys. Pixies are the bad guys. That's how typical stories go, anyway.

Also, I read something interesting on Facebook, that Sylveon may be a "Magic" type because:

- It sports ties ("ribbons") and bows. Magicians wear ties and bows.
- Trailer moves feature cards, explosions and illusions. Magicians popularly use these tricks.
- Explosions would devastate ice, shattering it into pieces.
- Human Magicians would faint or die under poison.

Plausible, but there's also the idea that Light may be introduced, because sunlight could melt ice, too. Poison doesn't make much sense in this case, meh.

Regardless, I definitely think it's a new type now.
That is an interesting theory. I'm against adding new types (isn't 17 enough?), but the theory behind Sylveon here makes sense given the new information.

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Fairy would be a diverse type given all the myths and such out there, I do think if such a type were to exist it wouldbe a good type. Im not sure if this Fairy type is real as it's still unconfirmed but it seems that Sylveon is likely a new type at this point. Whatever it is, I have high hopes for it.
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Faeries are the good guys. Pixies are the bad guys. That's how typical stories go, anyway.

Also, I read something interesting on Facebook, that Sylveon may be a "Magic" type because:

- It sports ties ("ribbons") and bows. Magicians wear ties and bows.
- Trailer moves feature cards, explosions and illusions. Magicians popularly use these tricks.
- Explosions would devastate ice, shattering it into pieces.
- Human Magicians would faint or die under poison.

Plausible, but there's also the idea that Light may be introduced, because sunlight could melt ice, too. Poison doesn't make much sense in this case, meh.

Regardless, I definitely think it's a new type now.
No...fairies were similar to demons in various stories. They'd attack villages, steal children to eat, torture humans for the sheer joy of their anguish. There were many fairy stories like that. Sometimes they are good sometimes they aren't. They vary in size, looks, and history. Some stories fairies are depicted as what we today call angels. Feather wings and all. Others they are depicted as demons. Fairy is also used ambiguously to group magical folk such as gnomes, brownies, goblins, and others like.

Only main common for stories is that metal can keep them at bay.
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I'm against adding new types (isn't 17 enough?), but the theory behind Sylveon here makes sense given the new information.
I'm not too fond of getting a new type either, but it seems more and more to be the case if we look at the information we have on Sylveon. I just hope it doesn't change up the type chart too much, since it has a pretty good balance as it is now. Although Ice getting a new weakness is going to suck a LOT...
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"She was strong against Ice, so they tested if she was Steel by attacking her with poison type – She wasn’t resistant to it, in fact, it was super-effective against her!"

Poison was super effective. And it isn't Grass. So This confirms it as a New type, doesn't it ?
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It's Fairy type. The insider's details were proven true today.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 08:24 AM
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It's Fairy type. The insider's details were proven true today.
Got a source for that one?

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It's Fairy type. The insider's details were proven true today.
The insider's info on Fairy type is wrong though.

Sylveon is Fairy Type.

She is Strong against Ice. None of the Fairy type leaks have Ice listed anywhere on there. So the insider information is wrong as far as Fairy type is concerned.
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Maybe Fairy will be converted to Wind over hear. Kites fly in the wind...
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I'm glad the Fairy type rumors are debunked, but I'm curious where the information for Sylveon being strong against Ice are coming from. If anything that could mean it'd be a Fighting type like a lot of people initially thought. Of course I might be missing information for all the types it's strong against though.
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If Sylveon is fighting type... That would just be ABSURD. But She can't be because isn't she confirmed weak to poison? We REALLY need poison to be strong against something anyway, as it's currently one of the worst types due to having one type advantage. Honestly the fairy rumors seem so legit, being weak to poison makes a lot of sense with pollution and stuff like that, but I am stumped on being strong against ice. I think it Sylveon is 100% a new type, I mean she has to be... But right now speculating is all we can do, as we will not know for sure until GF confirms it, which is hopefully SOON.
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Smash confirmed, by testing the host dressed as Sylveon, that:

Sylveon is not a fighting type, because she was bad with nunchucks.
Sylveon is strong against ice, because she managed to break a block of ice.
Sylveon is weak to poison, because she couldn't stand the stench of a flower.
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I'm glad the Fairy type rumors are debunked, but I'm curious where the information for Sylveon being strong against Ice are coming from.
From a certain program aired at 8 a.m. every Sunday morning in Japan. This particular fact stems from the most recent episode, in fact.

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Okay I went back and saw the Smash info. So all we really have left now is either Rock typing, a reworking of the type chart, or a new type all together. Can't see I'm pleased with any of the three possibilities to be honest. I feel like the type chart is perfect as it is right now, so why rework it or throw another type into the mix just for the sake of doing it? If it was Rock typed I'd be the happiest, but it really doesn't seem plausible either. I guess this is pretty much the only thing I'm disappointed with =/
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Okay I went back and saw the Smash info. So all we really have left now is either Rock typing, a reworking of the type chart, or a new type all together. Can't see I'm pleased with any of the three possibilities to be honest. I feel like the type chart is perfect as it is right now, so why rework it or throw another type into the mix just for the sake of doing it? If it was Rock typed I'd be the happiest, but it really doesn't seem plausible either. I guess this is pretty much the only thing I'm disappointed with =/
Rock isn't weak to poison so Sylveon can't be rock type without revamping the type chart so its either Type chart revamp or new type.
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They made it so acid (poison) will erode rock now? That'll be nice. I hope that's it, also how funny if Sylveon is rock, that was the least expected type...
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Doesn't the pokebeach revelation (the source correctly revealed the english names in advance) very strongly point towards Sylveon as a Fairy type now?

It's looking more and more likely every day.
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It sure makes it convincing but Pokesmash's test and the source's type charts don't match up...
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It sure makes it convincing but Pokesmash's test and the source's type charts don't match up...
I watched that clip from pokemon smash....

To be honest I'm not sure if I would trust them. They're a bit loose and fanciful....it's also pretty vague what exactly is meant by her breaking the ice. Does breaking the ice mean she's super effective against it or just not weak to it because she can break it?

Unless they're holding up a card with sugimori art or they show a trailer I'll remain suspicious.
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