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Old April 16th, 2013 (02:07 AM).
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Given it's a new forme I do wonder if it'll be more physically based than the other one. It looks like it could be a big psystrike abuser really. Anyone else wondering this?
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Given it's a new forme I do wonder if it'll be more physically based than the other one. It looks like it could be a big psystrike abuser really. Anyone else wondering this?
Yeah, I do think so too... :3

Mewtwo has great stats and moveset and I think Mewtwo's New form will have awesome movesets that would really make players want it badly.
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Given it's a new forme I do wonder if it'll be more physically based than the other one. It looks like it could be a big psystrike abuser really. Anyone else wondering this?
As far as stats go, I don't really expect for them to really change much. At least, here's my vision of what the stat spread should be for this form:

Mewtwo's Spread:

HP: 106
Attack: 110
Defense: 90
Special Attack: 154
Special Defense: 90
Speed: 130.

Going into this form, the new changes would be as such:

HP: 106
Attack: 154
Defense:: 90
Special Attack: 110
Special Defense: 90
Speed: 110 (?)

It might get slower. Thundurus got slower (iirc? Or was it Landorus?) when it had it's Therian form, so I wouldn't be surprised if the same happened to this new form here.
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Quote originally posted by Twilight Sky:
As far as stats go, I don't really expect for them to really change much. At least, here's my vision of what the stat spread should be for this form:

Mewtwo's Spread:

HP: 106
Attack: 110
Defense: 90
Special Attack: 154
Special Defense: 90
Speed: 130.

Going into this form, the new changes would be as such:

HP: 106
Attack: 154
Defense:: 90
Special Attack: 110
Special Defense: 90
Speed: 110 (?)

It might get slower. Thundurus got slower (iirc? Or was it Landorus?) when it had it's Therian form, so I wouldn't be surprised if the same happened to this new form here.
Lanorus takes 10 from speed and 10 from Sp.Atk and gives 20 to its attack. Your Mewtwo spread loses 20 points. I don't see a point to making a form that supposed to be stonger but loses total points. Thogh thats basically what i see happening.
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Lanorus takes 10 from speed and 10 from Sp.Atk and gives 20 to its attack. Your Mewtwo spread loses 20 points. I don't see a point to making a form that supposed to be stonger but loses total points. Thogh thats basically what i see happening.
Ah, I see. So it would make more sense if I subtracted 20 points from speed, and added that to it's attack, making this new Mewtwo form a more physical-version than it's special counterpart?
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I actually expect it to gain a larger BST, however they can still change up it's stats... this Mewtwo strikes me as the fast kind. Maybe take 20 from attack and give them to speed?
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Quote originally posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire:
I actually expect it to gain a larger BST, however they can still change up it's stats... this Mewtwo strikes me as the fast kind. Maybe take 20 from attack and give them to speed?
The problem is that I doubt the significant change is just going to be in speed. Whch is why I took 20 from speed and put it into attack, because if any change is going to occur, I figured this would be the more physical-version of Mewtwo. Going from it's design, I'd imagine that it'd have similar defenses (it doesn't exactly look like that much of a toothpick), but at the same time, it looks pretty meek, meaning that it'd be quite faster to some sort of extent.

If anything, swap Mewtwo's attack and Special attack, and take 10-15 from Special Attack and put it into Speed. Does that make more sense?
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Quote originally posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire:
I actually expect it to gain a larger BST, however they can still change up it's stats... this Mewtwo strikes me as the fast kind. Maybe take 20 from attack and give them to speed?
The only two Pokemon that change BST are Rotom and Kyurem mostly due to the outside influence. All the others remain the same. With Mewtwo being 680 BST I don't see them adding more to him. If they don't go to the attack format I see them shifting Attack and Defense and Special Attack and Special Defense. Its either a shift stat change or a no stat change like Keldeo.

Considering all the moves they shown in the video were all Special attacks that Mewtwo could already learn, I'm leaning towards no stat change at all if not a shift to giving him more Sp. Attack from another stat like Attack.
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Given it's a new forme I do wonder if it'll be more physically based than the other one. It looks like it could be a big psystrike abuser really. Anyone else wondering this?
Psystrike is a stronger Psyshock. It hits Defense but it's powered by Special Attack.
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I see it becoming a faster special sweeper.
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Having giving it a bit of thought....I suppose I wouldn't really mind a special sweeper in this guy, though I was hoping for something more unique, like shifting more towards Attack than special attack. It'd be cool if more physical things could be more viable for it (Zen Headbutt/Fire (or Ice) Punch/ Earthquake / (insert other move here). It'd just be an interesting mix, is all. xD
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I was thinking about it like, as Zen Headbutt ;_; Okay, great Zen Headbutt user (or another physical Psychic-type attack) then definitely :3
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No more forms omg! Please?! I can't take it. Why did they have to ruin an old school legendary?! -.-
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Maybe it could be a cross between mew and mewtwo?
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Quote originally posted by WishCookie:
No more forms omg! Please?! I can't take it. Why did they have to ruin an old school legendary?! -.-
Considering it's a form, meaning it's completely optional, I wouldn't go as far as saying it ruined one of Pokémon's most iconic legendaries.

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Maybe it could be a cross between mew and mewtwo?
I'm not saying it's not possible, because we know very little at the moment, but I'm doubting Mew will have any factor into Mewtwo's new form.
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I'm not saying it's not possible, because we know very little at the moment, but I'm doubting Mew will have any factor into Mewtwo's new form.
It's kind of a sad thing that this is most likely going to be the case. I remember complaining a lot before in this thread about Mew being left out lol @__@ Maybe it should get a new form but I don't want it to look awkward or anything like that...

On second thought, perhaps not. Mew with a headtail....maybe that's not such a good idea, after all. xD
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Nonononononono! Mewtwo getting a new form is more than enough. Mew doesn't need one too. Mew can already transform into any Pokémon it wants, that's fair enough.
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Might as well post my thoughts.

I'm a mixed bag with this. I like the new form's design, but at the same time, the fact that it's Mewtwo's alternate form and not a new Pokemon entirely is kind of disappointing. I would figure that Mewtwo would have known/found out about an alternate form relatively soon after he was created... not a decade later. If they can make it seem logical, then alright, I can deal with it.

What really bothers me is the fact that the new form looks like it would be better of as an original form. The original Mewtwo looks more BA and would suite a second form much better than this. The only way this new form would make sense is if 1)the new form is supposed to represent a speed form of sorts, like Deoxys (cause the new form looks more slick and faster imo) or 2)Mewtwo got abducted by aliens and they gave him his powers.


Still remains to be seen about how I really feel about this new form, considering a lot revolving it is speculation. But I'm optimistic.
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Unless X/Y gives us a cutscene like they did in B2W2 showing Kyurem transform to its other form for Mewtwo, here's how it will look in the anime. Keep in mind, we're not talking about the anime here. That should take place in the Pokèmon Anime forum under its Episode Discussion sub-forum.

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Yup, I'm gloating now.

It seems weird that he would entirely vanish like that, however, before reappearing in the new Forme. But that is how they would do it in the game (actually, in B/W/B2/W2, they basically tear a Pokémon into pieces and rebuild it, so that's even odder).

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Even if Mewtwo's new form is just a small in-game event that you can unlock in X/Y, I hope they show us a cutscene similar to the one in B2W2 that shows Mewtwo transforming into its new form. A detailed transformation that is.
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A tweet from serebii mentioned that the movie called this form "Awakened Mewtwo". It's..not really clear if this is the official name yet.

(Source if you wanna see it: http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)

Maybe in the game, a cut-scene will see Mewtwo be "awakened" somehow, into this form?
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Awakened Mewtwo is close to my earlier guess, which was Mewtwo Awakened Form. I have to say, I like their choice of name better. It does make the most sense though given that this is supposedly Mewtwo's new form after awakening. I wonder if X/Y will keep this reasoning behind its new form in the game or alter it.
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Otherwise known as Mewtwo-A, if one ever wants to put that thing on an Ubers team (most likely it'll be uber, anyway). Seems like a pretty decent name to me. n__n
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Is that Mewtwo's voice in the trailer? If it is, then those who called Awakened Mewtwo a "feminine" Mewtwo forme were right! I was almost surprised when I heard it!
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