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Old April 25th, 2013 (08:56 AM).
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(I assume this is the right forum for this.)

Diplomacy returns!

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Here are links to past games.

PC Plomacy
PC Plomacy Again
PC Plomacy Again Again

And rules/strategy:

Rules
Strategy

(I especially recommend the Richard Sharp link.)

Right now we have:

Aero - England
Anti - Italy
Lala - Austria
Nica - Turkey
Pachy - France
Vrai - Germany
Wolf - Russia

If anyone has issues with their country placement, VM me ASAP.

No deadlines yet, I only have diptool on my computer at home and I need to find a download for it before we can proceed, but that will sort itself out. We also need a volunteer for our orders recipient. We will begin shortly once those issues are resolved. I expect to begin tomorrow.

[Lastly, in past games a lot of chat c+p has happened. While you can obviously betray things others have said, I ask that we do not do this (translation: don't do it) as it removes some of the uncertainty inherent in the game. If France tells Germany England is attacking him, Germany should have to consider whether or not France is lying. So yeah.]
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Old April 26th, 2013 (09:02 AM).
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The countries are official. The game has begun!

Send your orders to Jake when they are finalized.

The deadline for orders is Tuesday at 11:59 PM. If numerous people need more time I'll extend it but we need to keep pretty tight deadlines or the game will take forever. Also, a reminder that you can send pictures or messages or whatever with your orders for funsies. Or post in the thread if you're so inclined.

But yeah, the game has begun, you may start negotiating!
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if anyone wants to use diptool for whatever purpose (i've found it helps with visualizing stuff that you're reading in the guides), you can download it here.

also, to get started on a new game, you go file > new group and then name it and click ok; from there you can right-click it in the window to the left and click the new game button (give it a name and click ok again). play around with it, since there's really nothing you can do to break it. oh and you'll also probably want to enable order editing. to change turns after you've edited in all of your supposed orders (to see what they'd do), right click the game name, go current turn > adjudicate

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Orders deadline is tomorrow night at 11:59 PM (not tonight). No more extensions though, we have to get going
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Spring 1901 Movement

Spoiler:

Austria: Army Budapest -> Serbia
Austria: Fleet Trieste HOLD
Austria: Army Vienna HOLD

England: Fleet Edinburgh -> Norwegian Sea
England: Army Liverpool -> Yorkshire
England: Fleet London -> North Sea

France: Fleet Brest -> Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France: Army Marseilles -> Spain
France: Army Paris -> Gascony

Germany: Army Berlin -> Kiel
Germany: Fleet Kiel -> Denmark
Germany: Army Munich -> Ruhr

Italy: Fleet Naples -> Ionian Sea
Italy: Army Rome -> Apulia
Italy: Army Venice -> Tyrolia

Russia: Army Moscow -> St Petersburg
Russia: Fleet Sevastopol -> Black Sea
Russia: Fleet St Petersburg (south coast) -> Gulf of Bothnia
Russia: Army Warsaw -> Ukraine

Turkey: Fleet Ankara HOLD
Turkey: Army Constantinople HOLD
Turkey: Army Smyrna HOLD

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Deadline is May 12th at 11:59 PM (EST).

My previous post (to avoid double posting):

Spoiler:
Anti gave me permission to run the game and replace any inactive players. As a result, Lalapizzame will be replaced by GolurkIsDaBomb. The deadline will be extended to May 5th at 11:59 PM to give Golurk a little while to get acquainted with the game.

I thought I'd post this short description of Diplomacy for new players (credit to Outlaw from Smogon):

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Diplomacy is game about making alliances, breaking alliances, and reforming old alliances to better your number of supply centers in the game. Playing the deaf mute will only get you so far before another country decides you are not worth the spaces you comprise of and crushes you for your land. You have to negotiate with other nations if you want to win. You must tell the whole truth and nothing but it while lying through your teeth to succeed in this game. Feelings will be hurt and grudges will be formed. Friends can be enemies, and enemies can be friends. Make your stab and pray it doesn't backfire.

A player is eliminated from the game when they no longer control any supply centers. Alternatively, a player can choose to forfeit. This will leave his/her pieces on the board where they will hold or idle during every turn. Victory is achieved by a single player controlling 18 of the 34 supply centers OR if all of the remaining players agree to a tie. Diplomacy has 3 phases. Since this is online, you can talk to other nations any time you wish. The game begins in Spring of the year 1901 where you issue your first orders. After that turn is Fall 1901 and you issue your second round of orders. And finally the year ends in Winter 1901 where you either add or subtract to your total number of supply centers and in turn your army depending on how many you captured or lossed in Fall. Then the year begins anew with Spring 1902.

Even though this is a game of Diplomacy, you are never required to honor any promises you made to any nation. You are always out for yourself.

Then read the rules listed in the first post if you need more details.
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wait wait wait wait what is Turkey doing?!?!?!?!?!
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Changing the deadline to May 10th, because I made the other one a bit too lengthy. Orders will be posted immediately when that day starts on midnight.
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I'll be extending the deadline to May 12th at 11:59 PM (EST) due to orders not being received from almost no one. That's not surprising though, I shortened the previous deadline earlier and should have sent private messages out to notify everyone.
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Quote originally posted by Wolflare:
I'll be extending the deadline to May 12th at 11:59 PM (EST) due to orders not being received from almost no one. That's not surprising though, I shortened the previous deadline earlier and should have sent private messages out to notify everyone.
That's because certain people won't negotiate with me >:O

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Ok, do I still PM my orders to Jake? or to someone else?
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Old May 13th, 2013 (10:41 AM). Edited May 13th, 2013 by wolf.
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Quote originally posted by Pachy:
Ok, do I still PM my orders to Jake? or to someone else?
Orders should always been sent to him unless otherwise stated.

First off, I will mention that there was a problem with the orders. Austria intended to support my fleet into Bulgaria, but made a mistake by not writing the order properly. He said "A of bul supports fleet of bla." Besides the fact that he accidentally said A Bul instead of A Ser, he didn't state that he's supporting the fleet's movement into Bul. So, it could've been taken as a defensive support move. However, Anti and I agreed to accept that his order was meant to support my fleet into Bulgaria, because a defensive support move would have been impossible (the two units aren't touching each other). The Diplomacy rules generally state that even a poorly written order must be accepted if it has only one logical outcome. This will be a warning to everyone: be sure to properly write your orders. There two ways to support a unit:

Defensive: A Tri supports A Bul
Offensive: A Tri supports A Bul -> Vie

Fall 1901 Movement

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Austria: Army Serbia SUPPORT Russian Fleet Black Sea -> Bulgaria (east coast)
Austria: Fleet Trieste -> Adriatic Sea
Austria: Army Vienna -> Budapest

England: Fleet North Sea -> English Channel
England: Fleet Norwegian Sea -> Norway
England: Army Yorkshire HOLD

France: Army Gascony -> Spain
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean HOLD
France: Army Spain -> Portugal

Germany: Fleet Denmark -> Sweden (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Kiel -> Holland
Germany: Army Ruhr -> Belgium

Italy: Army Apulia -> Greece via convoy
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea CONVOY Army Apulia -> Greece
Italy: Army Tyrolia -> Munich

Russia: Fleet Black Sea -> Bulgaria (east coast)
Russia: Fleet Gulf of Bothnia -> Sweden (*bounce*)
Russia: Army St Petersburg HOLD
Russia: Army Ukraine -> Rumania

Turkey: Fleet Ankara SUPPORT Army Smyrna -> Armenia
Turkey: Army Constantinople -> Bulgaria (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Smyrna -> Armenia

Spoiler:

Austria: Builds 1 unit
England: Builds 1 unit
France: Builds 2 units
Germany: Builds 2 units
Italy: Builds 2 units
Russia: Builds 2 units

Now, the next turn is Winter for those that are wondering. Winter is different from other seasons because you do not command your units. Instead, you get a chance to build or destroy units each winter. The amount of units you can build are exactly the same as the amount of colored spots you have on the map. For example, Germany can build two units now that he has Belgium and Holland. Keep in mind that you can only build units in your original supply centers (the colored spots from where you started at). Additionally, later in the game you may lose supply centers (colored spots). If that happens, you will be asked to remove however many units in the winter until they are equal to how many supply centers you own.

The deadline for sending orders is May 15th at 11:59 PM (EST). Please send your build orders as soon as possible. It doesn't take long to do so, since they're only builds.
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Winter 1901 Adjustment

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Austria: BUILD Army Vienna
England: BUILD Army London
France: BUILD Fleet Brest
France: BUILD Army Marseilles
Germany: BUILD Army Berlin
Germany: BUILD Fleet Kiel
Italy: BUILD Fleet Naples
Italy: BUILD Army Venice
Russia: BUILD Army Moscow
Russia: BUILD Fleet Sevastopol

The deadline for sending orders is May 18th at 11:59 PM (EST).
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+Zαyn Mαlik: So I wrote my build orders wrong and meant to build a fleet and not an army
+Zαyn Mαlik: Wolf told me to talk to you about possibly changing that
+Il Duce: okay i just need honesty here, honor code (yolo haverford)
+Il Duce: does write the order wrong mean you miswrote it or does it mean you meant an army and realized it was a terrible move
+Zαyn Mαlik: I meant fleet honestly
+Zαyn Mαlik: I just copied / pasted an order from before because I was lazy and deleted the other parts.
+Il Duce: so my ruling here is that im going to ask france and germany
+Il Duce: if they both agree to it then sure
+Il Duce: really i shouldnt allow this, its sort of on the person sending the orders to make sure theyre right, especially something as simple as a build
So yeah. If Germany and France are ok with it, I'd like to be able to revise that mistake. Pachy and Vrai let Anti and I know what you think.
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The deadline has been delayed for one more day.

Edit: It has been changed to tomorrow night. This is the last extension.
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i'm not really ok with that (no offense to you aero, but i would voice my displeasure if it were absolutely anyone); it's really no excuse to say 'i got lazy and c/ped the orders' especially since it takes all of three seconds to type 'build f lon' and a couple seconds more than that to double check that it's what you want. i don't think it's fair because i could later say after a poor build that i made a mistake when typing and that i need to change it - it sets a precedent that we can go back over and fix poor decisions, which is something that we shouldn't be maintaining.

(not calling into question whether or not what you said was true, aero - it's just my point that people can later lie and use this as a precedent too)
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Spring 1902 Movement

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Austria: Fleet Adriatic Sea HOLD
Austria: Army Budapest HOLD
Austria: Army Serbia HOLD
Austria: Army Vienna -> Trieste

England: Fleet English Channel CONVOY Army London -> Picardy (*dislodged*)
England: Army London -> Picardy via convoy (*no convoy*)
England: Fleet Norway -> North Sea (*bounce*)
England: Army Yorkshire -> Wales

France: Fleet Brest -> English Channel
France: Army Marseilles -> Burgundy
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean SUPPORT Fleet Brest -> English Channel
France: Army Portugal -> Spain
France: Army Spain -> Gascony

Germany: Army Belgium SUPPORT Army Holland -> Ruhr
Germany: Army Berlin -> Munich (*bounce*)
Germany: Fleet Denmark -> North Sea (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Holland -> Ruhr
Germany: Fleet Kiel -> Helgoland Bight

Italy: Army Greece HOLD
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea -> Tunis
Italy: Army Munich HOLD
Italy: Fleet Naples -> Ionian Sea
Italy: Army Venice HOLD

Russia: Fleet Bulgaria (east coast) -> Black Sea
Russia: Fleet Gulf of Bothnia -> Sweden
Russia: Army Moscow -> Ukraine
Russia: Army Rumania HOLD
Russia: Fleet Sevastopol SUPPORT Fleet Bulgaria (east coast) -> Black Sea
Russia: Army St Petersburg HOLD

Turkey: Fleet Ankara HOLD
Turkey: Army Armenia -> Syria
Turkey: Army Constantinople -> Bulgaria

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England: Fleet English Channel can retreat to Irish Sea or Picardy

To Aero: just post here where you want your fleet to retreat to.

The deadline is May 29th at 11:59 PM. We will now be waiting three days for each turn (and two days for winter adjustment). There will be no more extensions.

My previous post:

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I apologize for the massive delay, but Twilight Sky will now be replacing Forever as Turkey. The deadline has been extended until May 26th at 11:59 PM to give her enough time to get acquainted with the game and negotiate with others.
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Fall 1902 Movement

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Austria: Fleet Adriatic Sea HOLD
Austria: Army Budapest -> Serbia (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Serbia -> Bulgaria (*bounce, destroyed*)
Austria: Army Trieste HOLD

England: Army London HOLD
England: Fleet Norway -> North Sea (*bounce, dislodged*)
England: Fleet Picardy -> English Channel (*bounce*)
England: Army Wales HOLD

France: Army Burgundy -> Picardy (*bounce*)
France: Fleet English Channel -> Picardy (*bounce*)
France: Army Gascony -> Paris
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean -> Brest
France: Army Spain -> Gascony

Germany: Army Belgium HOLD
Germany: Army Berlin -> Munich
Germany: Fleet Denmark SUPPORT Fleet Helgoland Bight -> North Sea
Germany: Fleet Helgoland Bight -> North Sea
Germany: Army Ruhr SUPPORT Army Berlin -> Munich

Italy: Army Greece -> Serbia
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea -> Albania
Italy: Army Munich HOLD (*dislodged*)
Italy: Fleet Tunis HOLD
Italy: Army Venice -> Tyrolia

Russia: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Fleet Sevastopol -> Armenia (*cut*)
Russia: Army Rumania SUPPORT Italian Army Greece -> Serbia
Russia: Fleet Sevastopol -> Armenia
Russia: Army St Petersburg -> Norway
Russia: Fleet Sweden SUPPORT Army St Petersburg -> Norway
Russia: Army Ukraine -> Galicia

Turkey: Fleet Ankara -> Black Sea (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Bulgaria HOLD
Turkey: Army Syria -> Smyrna

Spoiler:

Italy: Army Munich can retreat to Bohemia or Kiel or Silesia
England: Fleet Norway can retreat to Barents Sea or Norwegian Sea or Skagerrak

England: Removes 1 unit
Germany: Builds 1 unit
Italy: Builds 1 unit
Russia: Builds 1 unit
Turkey: Builds 1 unit

Post your retreat orders here. The deadline is June 7th at 11:59 PM. Additionally, I'll mention to England you can't support a fleet with an army!
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Someone let me know on server next time orders are due :( I don't pay as much attention here and it kind of slipped my mind again, heh
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Winter 1902 Adjustment

Spoiler:

Germany: BUILD Army Kiel
Italy: BUILD Army Venice
Russia: BUILD Army Warsaw
Turkey: BUILD Fleet Constantinople

The deadline is June 14th at 11:59 PM. No more extensions.

Edit: I know this is contradicting to what I said, but I am forced to extend this indefinitely until the power outage here has been fixed.

Edit 2: The new deadline is June 24th at 11:59 PM. Please send your orders to Forever from now on.
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