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Old September 12th, 2013 (03:20 PM).
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As Magma posted above, I imagine some of them breed (Lati@s, the birds) and some of them are created (Creation trio), supposedly by Arceus. I honestly don't believe they all breed. As for the game themselves, the fact that there's usually only one of each kind is just to reinforce the idea that they're suppose to be super rare creatures.

That's the way I see it.
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As Magma posted above, I imagine some of them breed (Lati@s, the birds) and some of them are created (Creation trio), supposedly by Arceus. I honestly don't believe they all breed. As for the game themselves, the fact that there's usually only one of each kind is just to reinforce the idea that they're suppose to be super rare creatures.

That's the way I see it.
Exactly.

Now back to the names if that look into the origins of Terruna is right then maybe it's Mega will look similar to Sakuyamon which seems associated with the moon. So the digimon jokes could come true...
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Old September 12th, 2013 (07:36 PM). Edited September 12th, 2013 by XSky RiderX.
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I think we should discuss on the rumored names this leaker provided, given that he got a lot the names right the remaining may be legit.

Dianshii (ディアンシー) — Possibly a deer Pokémon. It’s name could come from deer + fancy + antsy.
Hariboogu (ハリボーグ) — Most likely the evolution of Chespin — Hari (ハリ) comes from pin/needle, boogu (ボーグ) or bogue, is the name of the shell of a chestnut is French. Thanks to belmad for this tip-off!
Gekogashira (ゲコガシラ) — Possibly from gecko + boss. Gashira means either head or boss. Possibly a Froakie evolution.
Borukenion (ボルケニオン) — Probably Volcanyon — likely boruke (ボルケ) from volcano and nion (ニオン) from canyon.
Dedenne (デデンネ)
Horubii (ホルビー) — Likely comes from horu (ホル) to dig + bee.
Nyaonikusu (ニャオニクス) — Probably Meowstick, as mentioned in a previous leak
Burigaron (ブリガロン) — Maybe a blizzard wolf: buri (ブリ) from blizzard (burizaado) + garo (ガロ / 牙狼) meaning fanged wolf. It could also come from garou (餓狼) meaning starving wolf.
Jigarude (ジガルデ) — Is possibly from Jiga (ジガ / 自我), which means ego.
Mafokushii (マフォクシー) — Is possibly an evolution of Fennekin: Mafoxy
Fuupa (フーパ) — fuu (フー) is most likely wind, pa (パ) could be many things.
Gekkouga (ゲッコウガ) — Gekkou (ゲッコウ) means moonlight + ga (ガ) is moth. Literally moonlight moth.
Torimian (トリミアン)
Teerunaa (テールナー) — Possibly related to Gekkouga. Teeru (テール) means tail and runaa (ルナー) means lunar.


I know we can't do much with just names but its something to talk about.
So far, from what I've put in bold, these are the names he has gotten correct so far. It is safe to say that all of the others on this list will be real, which is awesome because a blizzard wolf is something I'd like to see in Sugimori art. Also remember, this leaker posted these names before Dedenne was revealed, so this is pretty legit stuff here.

The only thing I noticed is that he misinterpreted Fennekin's evolution as something else.
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Quote originally posted by XSky RiderX:
So far, from what I've put in bold, these are the names he has gotten correct so far. It is safe to say that all of the others on this list will be real, which is awesome because a blizzard wolf is something I'd like to see in Sugimori art. Also remember, this leaker posted these names before Dedenne was revealed, so this is pretty legit stuff here.

The only thing I noticed is that he misinterpreted Fennekin's evolution as something else.
I think there are a lot of mistranslations in it. While the actual names are there, what they are may not be what he originally thought. He called Fennekin's evo "related to" Froakie's Evo so there was an apparent translation error for him. He also got Bunnleby's wrong as he thought it was a ground hornet/bee.

Horubii was Bunnleby's Japanese name.

So we may not have an Ice Wolf or a new Deer.


So we have:
Dianshii
Borukenion
Burigaron
Jigarude
Mafokushii
Fuupa

Ya I've got nothing on these...
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Quote originally posted by BeefTaco:
I think we should discuss on the rumored names this leaker provided, given that he got a lot the names right the remaining may be legit.

Dianshii (ディアンシー) — Possibly a deer Pokémon. It’s name could come from deer + fancy + antsy.
Hariboogu (ハリボーグ) — Most likely the evolution of Chespin — Hari (ハリ) comes from pin/needle, boogu (ボーグ) or bogue, is the name of the shell of a chestnut is French. Thanks to belmad for this tip-off!
Gekogashira (ゲコガシラ) — Possibly from gecko + boss. Gashira means either head or boss. Possibly a Froakie evolution.
Borukenion (ボルケニオン) — Probably Volcanyon — likely boruke (ボルケ) from volcano and nion (ニオン) from canyon.
Dedenne (デデンネ)
Horubii (ホルビー) — Likely comes from horu (ホル) to dig + bee.
Nyaonikusu (ニャオニクス) — Probably Meowstick, as mentioned in a previous leak
Burigaron (ブリガロン) — Maybe a blizzard wolf: buri (ブリ) from blizzard (burizaado) + garo (ガロ / 牙狼) meaning fanged wolf. It could also come from garou (餓狼) meaning starving wolf.
Jigarude (ジガルデ) — Is possibly from Jiga (ジガ / 自我), which means ego.
Mafokushii (マフォクシー) — Is possibly an evolution of Fennekin: Mafoxy
Fuupa (フーパ) — fuu (フー) is most likely wind, pa (パ) could be many things.
Gekkouga (ゲッコウガ) — Gekkou (ゲッコウ) means moonlight + ga (ガ) is moth. Literally moonlight moth.
Torimian (トリミアン)
Teerunaa (テールナー) — Possibly related to Gekkouga. Teeru (テール) means tail and runaa (ルナー) means lunar.


I know we can't do much with just names but its something to talk about.
Seeing as I recognize a handful of those names, I'm more inclined to believe this guy. And I'm pretty sure the Fossils were on that list too, the Rock/Dragon T-Rex and the Apatosaurus one, IIRC.

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Nyaonikusu (ニャオニクス) — Probably Meowstick, as mentioned in a previous leak
I wonder if this is the multi-formed Cat we got? I don't recall seeing its name.

And that 'moonlight moth' and wolf Pokemon sound really cool. I may have to use those two.
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Seeing as I recognize a handful of those names, I'm more inclined to believe this guy. And I'm pretty sure the Fossils were on that list too, the Rock/Dragon T-Rex and the Apatosaurus one, IIRC.



I wonder if this is the multi-formed Cat we got? I don't recall seeing its name.

And that 'moonlight moth' and wolf Pokemon sound really cool. I may have to use those two.
There's a possibility the species the name leaker is speculating are wrong like the digging bee which was actually a bunny.
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Quote originally posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire:
There's a possibility the species the name leaker is speculating are wrong like the digging bee which was actually a bunny.
Is he wrong because on account of it being bad information, or, could it simply be a translation issue? I think that would explain how some of the names were spot on and others (Like that bee/rabbit) were not.
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Oh woops, I accidentally bolded an extra Pokemon. I didn't mean to bold Gekkouga(I thought it was Froakie's evolution at first), so I edited it.

I have a feeling that although the translations may seem off, the names of these Pokemon are more than likely to be legitimate.
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Is he wrong because on account of it being bad information, or, could it simply be a translation issue? I think that would explain how some of the names were spot on and others (Like that bee/rabbit) were not.
I think it's a translation issue. It feels like someone gave this list leaker the names but not the actual Pokémon hence why there's no description of the Pokémon and what seems to read as guesses of what they mean.
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One pokemon on the list that caught my attention was Gekkouga (Moonlight Moth). Could it be that this is the Bug counterpart to Vivillion? Also Moonlight Moth tells me that this could be our first Bug/Dark. I know what your going to say, the Moon has been more reminiscent with Psychic types than Dark types but I still believe is possible.
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@ BeefTaco well thus far the moon has been associated with Dark (Umbreon), Normal (Skitty, Clefairy, ect.), Fairy (Jigglypuff which doubles as normal, Sylveon), and psychic (Lugia, Lunatone) so it could be any of those four. Maybe the moth could even be Ghost as moths can symbolize death and departure oppose to the butterfly which represents revival and spiritual awakening.
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Dianshii (ディアンシー)
Jigarude (ジガルデ)
Mafokushii (マフォクシー)

I think Borukenionis Pyroar. Gekkouga might be Froakie's final evolution. Burigaron might be Chespin's final evolution. Fuupa might be Fennekin's final evolution. The other three ould be anything imo.
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So he guessed these lot correctly;

Hariboogu (Chespin's Evolution)
Teerunaa (Fennekin's Evolution)
Gekogashira (Froakie's Evolution)
Borukenion (Pyroar)
Dedenne
Nyaonikusu
Torimian

All of those have been revealed either been revealed in this month's CoroCoro or in the past couple of months, odds are the rest of that list are likely to be legit.
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Quote originally posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire:
@ BeefTaco well thus far the moon has been associated with Dark (Umbreon), Normal (Skitty, Clefairy, ect.), Fairy (Jigglypuff which doubles as normal, Sylveon), and psychic (Lugia, Lunatone) so it could any of those four. Maybe the moth could even be Ghost as moths can symbolize death and departure oppose to the butterfly which represents revival and spiritual awakening.
A ghost bug would be pretty awesome too not gonna lie. Shedninja just doesn't cut it.

I think Jigarude and Mafokushii might be of the same evolutionary line, Jigarude being the basic pokemon and Mafokushii being the evolution. Since Jigarude apparently has to do something with Ego I would assume its a some type of smug stylish pokemon, with this in mind when you think of the word Foxy you think of a stylish person. My theory is sort of a reach but I can see it happening with the Region being based on France.
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The names of the starters evolutions suggest that the rumors will come true for their final evolution's basis.
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Quote originally posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire:
The names of the starters evolutions suggest that the rumors will come true for their final evolution's basis.
You mean these rumors right?

• Fairy will be a new type. It is weak to Poison and Steel, immune to Dragon, super effective against Dragon, Dark, and Fighting, and Fire and Psychic-type Pokemon take half damage from it.
• Sylveon is Fairy-type. Some older Pokemon will be reclassified to Fairy, such as Mawile (Steel/Fairy).
• Mewtwo has two new formes, not just one. Both are activated via items.
• The professor’s English name is Patrice.
The Starter final evolutions are, as many people predicted, Fire/Psychic, Grass/Dark, and Water/Fighting.
• The first Gym is Bug, the second is Fairy, and the fourth is Fighting.
• A few attacks will be dual-typed.
• There will be a new type of battling style that Flying-type Pokemon and Pokemon with Levitate can participate in.
• You will be able to see a Pokemon’s EVs at a certain in-game facility. You will be able to boost the EVs through mini-games. It will take about two hours to get one stat to max EVs.

and these also are from the same guy I think

• Pancham evolves into Pangoro in the early level 30s. In order to evolve Pancham into Pangoro, you need to have one other Dark-type Pokemon in your party. Pangoro's type is Fighting/Dark.
• A Pokemon named Inkay evolves into Malimar. To evolve it, you have to hold your 3DS upside-down when it levels up (the 3DS has an accelerometer and gyroscope, so it can detect that). Malimar's type is Dark/Psychic.
• A Psychic-type Pokemon named Espurr (ESP + purr) evolves into Meowstick (Meow + mystic?). (Sounds like Psychic-type cats. Meowstick's name sounds too similar to Meowth to me though.)
• Like in B/W you have two rivals - one is friendly and the other is competitive. Your rival that is more friendly gives you his/her fully evolved starter Pokemon after you beat the game.
• Another professor named Sycamore gives you either Bulbasaur, Charmander, or Squirtle.
• Even though it shows the player riding on a Gogoat in the new trailer, players can't ride on their own Pokemon. What was shown is just an alternate way of getting around Lumiose City and it only works with Gogoat.
• HMs still exist but there's a lot less of them.
• Players will be able to see their Pokemon's EVs (probably through the same in-game facility mentioned in the other post).
• A new move, Belch, is a Poison-type attack that has a base power of 120. The user must consume a held Berry to perform it.
• Draining Kiss is a Fairy-type attack that heals the user for the same amount of damage performed. It has a base power of 60.
• If the previously revealed forme of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly similar to Mewtwo's original design, the second supposed form of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly/vaguely similar to Mew's design.
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If dual-type moves do become real, then I could see Muddy Water becoming a mixture of water and ground. I don't know if that will increase its usage though, because its accuracy will still remain kind of low. I also see Earth Power turning into part fire-type, since it allows you to hit your opponent with magma from below the earth.

I love the idea of playing mini-games to raise our Pokémon's EVs. This will make the process of EV training much more fun. (:
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Here's to the dual-type move rumor being one of the few false claims in the mix. I really don't see how that would work. There's a lot of moves that can be classified as two or more types, but actually making them so would unnecessarily complicate things.
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Yeah let's hope it's like th Patrice rumor...false...
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Yeah let's hope it's like th Patrice rumor...false...
Has it been proven false? I mean sycamore doesn't give us our starters and he does give us Kanto starters. Look at the preview of the anime Ash isn't introduce to the Kalos starters by sycamore but a women professor ( could be Patrice ) so maybe it isn't false. Maybe how bel gave you the starters in BW2 but they are from juniper is how your friend gives you the starters but they are from Patrice . I'm actually willing to bet there is a female professor named Patrice
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Dual-type move could just mean that two types get a STAB bonus, like Ice-types getting STAB on a freezing Water-type move or a chilly wind Flying-type move, while the actual move is still considered one type.

IDK, it could mean a few other things, like Hidden Power/Weather Ball type stuff.
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Has it been proven false? I mean sycamore doesn't give us our starters and he does give us Kanto starters. Look at the preview of the anime Ash isn't introduce to the Kalos starters by sycamore but a women professor ( could be Patrice ) so maybe it isn't false. Maybe how bel gave you the starters in BW2 but they are from juniper is how your friend gives you the starters but they are from Patrice . I'm actually willing to bet there is a female professor named Patrice
The idea of Patrice giving them to the players friends never came to me...it's certainly possible...but one would think we would've heard of her (officially) by now...
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The idea of Patrice giving them to the players friends never came to me...it's certainly possible...but one would think we would've heard of her (officially) by now...
So true. Of course I'd think it would amazing if all the info we got was only like 10% of the game
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Now that would be awesome...I like long games. I hope the story is as good as Emerald's,Black and White's, and Platinum's but longer.
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Only issue with the rumors is, We seem to have more than just 2 Rivals. Trevor has been said to be a rival, then there is the generic NPC Serena, and Shauna which has the weak starter. While Trevor and Teirno may not have the same starters can you really not call them your rival?

Meostic is supposed to be an evolved form as well according to the rumors. The cat twins don't really look like evolutions. I can't see them having a pre-evo.

As for Patrice, according to the rumor "She" was the regional professor who gave you your pokemon. The leak indicated that they were directly given. Official sources conflict this on two points, 1 Sycamore was said to be the regional professor for Kalos and Trevor gives you your Pokedex/Pokemon. (assuming Trevor since he does give the Pokedex.

Sycamore also takes the role to send the Player on their gym traveling journey.


Second gyms seems to be the Lumoise Gym. If the Anime has any indication, its ran by Clemont who uses a Dedenne. Although it is part Fairy, Clemont's hobby of building electrical devices and the gym's background looking very electronic/data-ish. You can pretty much say he's an electric gym. So that kinda breaks that rumor as well.

It also got the "Mewtwo forms" descriptions wrong. The revealed Mewtwo was small and somewhat Mewish, yes, but not that much that it doesn't resemble more of Mewtwo. Many fans even expected a more mew-esque form because of this. The newly revealed one that appeared after the other Mewtwo form does not look like Mew in the slightest bit.

So he said that the form that was already leaked looked like Mewtwo and the newer one would look more like Mew, that part is obviously wrong and can be debunked on the spot. Both came out after the actual image leak hence why they specifically said "Not just 1 but 2."

This doesn't seem to be the case of making false info to cover up and create a safety net. He got some right but the others are conflicting with what is being said officially.

The Professor's name according to the leaker was Patrice. The Professor's name according to Gamefreak is Sycamore.

Before we even found out about the Kanto Starters from Sycamore officially, his official page said that he was the one that entrusted you with your starter. This can mean that he gave Trevor the starters to hand out to you and your new friends which would mean he does give you both the Kalos and Kanto starters.
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