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Old December 29th, 2013 (06:54 AM).
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I despise roster discussions, especially regarding third parties, but I won't lie that I'd like seeing Layton or Phoenix Wright in this. I won't lie that I want Snake back either, especially since he was in Brawl.

That said, all I really want is Lil Mac. Him alone would justify the purchase of the game for me...OK, I lie, Wario and DK (amongst other) did that since the beginning, but I'd be very happy to see a representative of one of my favorite games (Punch Out) and my favorite hobby (Boxing) to be in a series I've been with for a long time.
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Well it's an SSB thread, roster discussions are pretty much inevitable.

...And they're also part of the reason I'd avoided coming into this thread in the first place. Mainly because they can get pretty crazy.
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Old December 29th, 2013 (06:58 AM).
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I despise roster discussions, especially regarding third parties, but I won't lie that I'd like seeing Layton or Phoenix Wright in this. I won't lie that I want Snake back either, especially since he was in Brawl.

That said, all I really want is Lil Mac. Him alone would justify the purchase of the game for me...OK, I lie, Wario and DK (amongst other) did that since the beginning, but I'd be very happy to see a representative of one of my favorite games (Punch Out) and my favorite hobby (Boxing) to be in a series I've been with for a long time.
I do as well but you rarely see stage discussions (That said, a Hyrule<->Lorule stage from Link Between Worlds would be amazing) or assist trophy discussions. It's typically the bread and butter of fighting games. Heck I've seen topics just for roster discussion.

I hope they provide Lil Mac too. He looked like fun! Layton I hope they give justice. He did so much to the DS. 15 milion Layton copies sold and a franchise that people remember. He in my opinion is the only other character (Phoenix Wright as well) who should be made to have a space.

I base my predictions based on the facts I see. That's why I saw a new Mario character coming. As well as Ganondorf's return.
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Stage discussions are more fun and civil I agree. (music as well)

We already caught a glimpse of the Punch Out stage (shut up let me have hope), but I'd looove a Rhythm Heaven stage and a proper Donkey Kong one.
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Speaking of music, these are my top 10 musics I'd like to see in SSB4:


1. Dark Bowser (Bowser's Inside Story)
2. Don't Speak Her Name (Fire Emblem Awakening)
3. Moldarach/Koloktos (Skyward Sword)
4. C-R-O-W-N-E-D (Kirby's Return to Dreamland)
5. Rundas (Metroid Prime 3)
6. You Will Know Our Names (Xenoblade)
7. King Krusha Rool (Donkey Kong 64)
8. Porky Means Business (Earthbound)
9. We Are the Robots (Mega Man 9)
10. Champion Iris (Pokémon Black 2/White 2)
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I haven't played Skyward Sword yet, but I'd bet Ghirahim would make it in as a new fighter, wouldn't he?

As for 3rd parties, I feel like Mega Man might be it. I really do hope Snake comes back too.
Same with Lucario; I was fearing he'd be replaced by a reduxed Mewtwo, but who knows.

Rosalina looks fun to play and I'm glad they're getting more females in!
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Quote originally posted by Wazee Wynkoop:
I haven't played Skyward Sword yet, but I'd bet Ghirahim would make it in as a new fighter, wouldn't he?

As for 3rd parties, I feel like Mega Man might be it. I really do hope Snake comes back too.
Same with Lucario; I was fearing he'd be replaced by a reduxed Mewtwo, but who knows.

Rosalina looks fun to play and I'm glad they're getting more females in!
Not really sure if you're joking or not, but if you aren't, Mega Man was one of the first revealed characters for SSB4.

And I'm also glad that they're adding more female fighters, it's always good to have that variety. It wasn't something I really appreciated until Brawl, where later on I would go out of my way to use Zelda, Peach, and Samus (ZS).

Speaking of music, and since we're on the subject of Punch Out!, they need to add a remix of the original battle theme from Punch Out! NES and Wii, among many many many other songs that need to be in it.
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Speaking of music, and since we're on the subject of Punch Out!, they need to add a remix of the original battle theme from Punch Out! NES and Wii
You mean like this? Or this? How about this? :P

Personally all I really want is for the DKC series to get proper representation music wise (and STAGE WISE). I honestly can't see ANY reason why we still haven't gotten the popular Aquatic Ambiance or Forest Interlude in Brawl, aside from the fact they're maybe too ambient for Smash. But then again, we got stuff like Snowman. They did add Stickerbush Symphony, but I honestly don't like the remix lol.
Gimme my Mining Melancholy in Smash, man. :(
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Ugh...damn you music, with your names <_<

I'm referring to what in Punch Out!! is called the "Major Circuit Theme", though if they were to base it off of any of them, I'd prefer that they go with the original...it's just so catchy.
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Quote originally posted by Wazee Wynkoop:
I haven't played Skyward Sword yet, but I'd bet Ghirahim would make it in as a new fighter, wouldn't he?
Have you not learned anything from Skull Kid's assist trophy confirmation? One-time Zelda characters have zero chance at appearing in Smash as playable characters.

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Same with Lucario; I was fearing he'd be replaced by a reduxed Mewtwo, but who knows.
Both can co-exist now that 5 is the new limit of slots for Mario and Pokémon.

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Rosalina looks fun to play and I'm glad they're getting more females in!
If you've been going through the website since June based on your comment on Rosalina, you should already know by now that Mega Man is already in the game.


As for Punch Out!! music, your lack of mentioning the password theme disappoints me.
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Old December 30th, 2013 (11:13 AM).
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More Stuff about the Character Balancing.
Sounds like they're still making character's strong, but, add other weaknesses.
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Old December 31st, 2013 (03:32 PM).
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When I was talking about Mega Man, I was saying I think he's the only new addition for 3rd parties, meaning "Mega Man is it," nothing else. But I hope I'm wrong.

I can't really pursue the line of thought for Ghirahim, the only argument I'd make is if he has potential to be a recurring villain, but maybe he dies in Skyward for all I know (rather not be spoiled on that).
If it's true that one-time Zelda characters can't become main fighters, then that saddens me. That means LoZ won't get more than the 4 they have for a long while. None of the other characters are really fighters, or fighters worthy enough for a slot.

Good point about the 5 slot thing though; if they brought Toon Link back, then I shouldn't really be worried about Lucario.
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Hm, what about the music tracks? Are there any sorts of musics that you'd love to hear in SSB4?

Personally I do hope that they'll use some of the older Fire Emblem tracks from the older Fire Emblem games, like maybe some from Radiant Dawn or something. Other than that, I expect to hear some Fire Emblem Awakening osts, but, hopefully things like Id-Awakening.
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I'd like it if they threw a curveball and put in someone from, say, Seisen no Keifu or one of the other older, non-officially translated Fire Emblems. If only because it would build demand for those games to be brought over and then boom, we'll either see remakes or translated VC (probably VC, but that's just as good to me).

After all, that's how the series came over in the first place. It's sad that Mother 3 wasn't so lucky, though.
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In regards to Ghirahim, I'll quote what I posted at another forum

"In all honesty, Impa is a very likely character. Most of the characters in Smash Bros are typically reoccurring characters in the franchise (there are exemptions of course. Ike/Roy for one)

But looking through the reoccurring characters in Zelda, there are really only 4 left for possibilities

Sheik
Ganondorf
Impa
Vaati

Whilst Ghirahim is indeed a popular character, Vaati has more of a chance due to his games typically being on the handheld. Thus making a Zelda handheld representative

And Ganondorf is pretty much confirmed since they confirmed Toon Link. If they have the roster space to waste on a clone character (Clone character for now...), they have already added Ganondorf."
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Eh...I'm doubting Ganondorf and Toon Link will be as "cloney" this time around. They're definitely going to have more apparent differentiation that would appeal to non-competitive (and competitive) players.
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Eh...I'm doubting Ganondorf and Toon Link will be as "cloney" this time around. They're definitely going to have more apparent differentiation that would appeal to non-competitive (and competitive) players.
I'm doubting it as well. But until we get to see their movesets with our eyes, we have to assume otherwise :/
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I really doubt Toon Link will be luigified, because Sakurai mentioned back in the Brawl website that it is a rule that both incarnations of Link will share the same moveset.
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I hope they add a Sonic character that isn't Sonic. It's not going to happen, but I think Cream would be a nice choice.

I'd also like Professor Layton. He's... second-party or something, so it shouldn't be too hard.
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Looks like trophies are making a safe return:



How we get them, is still a mystery.
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It'll probably be the same way we've obtained trophies from the last two games (Classic Mode, Adventure Mode, Slot machines, etc.).


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I hope they add a Sonic character that isn't Sonic. It's not going to happen, but I think Cream would be a nice choice.

One character per third-party franchise. Remember, Sakurai doesn't want to add third-parties all willy nilly.

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Sorry, he's actually a third-party character in Japan.
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OUR KING HAS RETURNED!



ALL HAIL THE HAMMER!
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Our king is back once again to clobbah dat dere Kirbeh. Now we wait for Diddy's return next month.
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Our king is back once again to clobbah dat dere Kirbeh. Now we wait for Diddy's return next month.
Wait, how do you know Diddy will make an appearance next month?
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Wait, how do you know Diddy will make an appearance next month?
He's probably making an assumption based on DKC Tropical Freeze coming out next month, like how certain characters were revealed to commemorate the release of a game in their franchise.
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