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Old June 19th, 2013 (09:25 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Razor Leaf:
I really can't take this seriously because fairies kill dragons and now I'm thinking of Pokémon being some magical story world full of dragons and princes and wonderland creatures and ogres. Aka, Shrek: The Game.

Seriously though, I don't feel like having Fairy as a type makes very much sense. The others so far are okay; all based off real, general things with plenty of space for imagination (minus Dragon - but Dragon is badass anyway. Although honestly I always felt there to be a big lack of variation between Dragon types as it was) but this just feels so... restricting to me. What even qualifies as a fairy? When I think "fairy" I think something like Tinkerbell; a human form with wings and a magic wand. Either that or Navi from the LoZ games; in any case, something bright and flying with sparkles and fairy dust and other stuff like that. I really don't get why they felt they needed to bring a new type in, and honestly given some of the confirmed Fairy Pokémon (Gardevoir, Sylveon, Marill?) it feels like they're just chucking the type at... well, anything they can. I don't see what exactly makes these guys 'fairies' - mainly given that they're trying to build a type here off something which doesn't actually exist. I had the same issue with Dragons; they were cool but the actual typing made zero sense due to the lack of dragons in the real world. I never understood the logic behind dragons being weak to... well... dragons.

And regarding dragons - I'm glad that I'm not the only person who feels that the whole point of this type is to check Dragon-types. Which, honestly, wasn't worth a whole new type imo (and especially not when the fairy being strong against dragon thing makes no sense in the first place). They could've just introduced some better Ice-types, some sort of anti-Dragon items or moves or etc, but nahhh. They had to go screw everything up by throwing a whole new type which, as I keep saying, is in itself not possible to categorise due to it not existing in the first place.

...tl;dr I don't like it. I feel it's a really messy type due to the fact that it's impossible to say, with any solid reasoning, what a fairy is or what its advantages and disadvantages are and they could have done the same job by being more inventive in other areas.
Again not all fairies necessary looked like humans, some legends even talk about dog like fairies and the such.

Also Dragons being against Dragons makes sense as they are said to have hard skin, which most things can't break through which is reflected more in their typing than in their stats xD. Dragon though have sharp claws said to be able to rip another dragon apart so it makes sense...
Even in manga such as Fairy Tail the dragon slayers and dragons are the only ones who seem to be able to actually do some damage on dragons.

Anyways I don't think we should dish on Fairy type as Dragon's themselves are equally fantastical. And if I didn't know about Japanese thinking of Sea horses as baby Dragons I would be in shock as to why Kingdra is one.
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Old June 19th, 2013 (10:29 AM).
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Quote originally posted by diab_low:
Ok, is there anything to justify this new type emerging? Why did it emerge?
Q - Will there be a story reason why Fairy-type will all of a sudden exist?
A - When we first decided we wanted to bring the type into the world, we wanted to find a way to balance the stength of the Dragon type. But no one wants us to weaken the Dragon-type Pokemon, so we decided to come up with something that could go against a Dragon, so that's why we came up with the Fairy-type.
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Old June 19th, 2013 (11:13 AM).
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Quote originally posted by XanderO:
Not all Pokemon in the Dragon breed group are dragon types. two dragon types aren't in the dragon breed group. The breed group and type aren't really related so there's not mych chance that the fairy egg group is changing nor does that mean all pokemon in the egg group are going to be Fairy type.
Adding to my earlier post for Sabrewolf: horsea is "the dragon pokemon". They won't change species name just cause of a new type just as they wouldn't change the egg group.
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Old June 19th, 2013 (01:49 PM).
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The name of the egg group isn't even something visible in-game. No reason to change it.
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Agreeing with Xander's post, that and because I don't really foresee Pokemon like Roserade or Breloom having any of their types changed, because they need both of their STABs.
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Quote originally posted by pedrito3_poke:
Q - Will there be a story reason why Fairy-type will all of a sudden exist?
A - When we first decided we wanted to bring the type into the world, we wanted to find a way to balance the stength of the Dragon type. But no one wants us to weaken the Dragon-type Pokemon, so we decided to come up with something that could go against a Dragon, so that's why we came up with the Fairy-type.
Story-wise, it wouldn't be hard to introduce Fairy-types as they can claim it as a new discovery in the games. That being said, I am curious to know how they'll handle explaining the old Pokémon having their types changed after so many years or if they'll just shrug it off and pretend like it was always that way.
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Old June 20th, 2013 (08:10 AM).
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I'm betting it will be a lot like the introduction of dark and steel. They made a huge deal about steel being a new discovery, but didn't ever say much about dark.

they could always say something like, "We understand the nature of Jigglypuff better now..." or something like that. It'll be easy.
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Old June 20th, 2013 (08:40 AM).
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Just thinking bout it, anyone think Munna will be part Fairy Type? It has all the characteristics to fall into that category i guess.
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I actually enjoy the Idea alot, it's going to be cool to see how the past generations change to meet up with the new game. If some rumors are true, and Xerenas is Fairy/Steel and Yvetal is Dark/Dragon It would seem Xerenas would have the edge in that match-up.
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Quote originally posted by Twilight Sky:
Agreeing with Xander's post, that and because I don't really foresee Pokemon like Roserade or Breloom having any of their types changed, because they need both of their STABs.
Well both Roserade and Breloom are already occupied with a second typing, so in order for them to become part Fairy type they would have to lose their secondary typing. Besides Roserade and Breloom don't really fit into the Fairy category imo.
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Old June 20th, 2013 (12:31 PM).
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New Mewtwo form:

Fairy-Psychic anyone?
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Old June 20th, 2013 (12:38 PM).
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Hm, since the fairy evolution of Evee came out i throught it was fairy.

Im from germany and it german its named Feelinara -> Fee = Fairy =)

Same with the other evolutions.
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Quote originally posted by Southueki:
New Mewtwo form:

Fairy-Psychic anyone?
That's what I'm guessing, too. If that's the case, then I might not hate the new form so much, because it turns Mewtwo into a STAB Dragon-killer! That would be such a treat for me, cause I hate dragon-types for the most part.
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Maybe a new type to deal against Dark/Ghost type combination
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Quote originally posted by Southueki:
New Mewtwo form:

Fairy-Psychic anyone?
Maybe even a dual-type Psychic/Fairy?? Would be pretty neat (:
I'm still anxious to see how Fairy will change the Type Chart around...

And i wonder if Pokemon like Jigglypuff will lose their normal typing?
Anyone??
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Quote originally posted by アルセウス:
Maybe a new type to deal against Dark/Ghost type combination
Then that would make the only two pokemon who have the type anymore useless, their absence of weakness being the only reason they are used. Sableye is statistically weak and Spiritomb doesn't have enough power to counter them due to its weak offense.
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While I was hoping for Sylveon to be a dragon or love type, my only problem with this is I think "Magic Type" would be a better name, but it sounds too much like psychic...
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Quote originally posted by Zorogami:
Maybe even a dual-type Psychic/Fairy?? Would be pretty neat (:
I'm still anxious to see how Fairy will change the Type Chart around...

And i wonder if Pokemon like Jigglypuff will lose their normal typing?
Anyone??
Jigglypuff was already shown as Normal/Fairy. So it and most likely all other will have the type added rather than retyping. Doesn't bode confidence for those that are Dual Typed already.
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Why is fairy not effective against steel? I feel like nothing can damage steel. It's kinda rigged. Anyways I feel like fairy will be cool since it adds some needed types to explain some pokemon.
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Quote originally posted by bradosia:
Why is fairy not effective against steel? I feel like nothing can damage steel. It's kinda rigged. Anyways I feel like fairy will be cool since it adds some needed types to explain some pokemon.
Steel is actually weak to 3 types.

The problem is, they pack alot of resistances and are usually bulky. Which means they're hard to take down, but Fighting/Ground and Fire plows through them
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I looked over the current pokedex to see which pokemon could have their typing changed to Fairy, and most of them seem to be purely Normal-typed. The ones that are just normal would be then just Fairy if changed. Here's a list of possible ones on the internet.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7563346944/h2D27134A/
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Quote originally posted by CmdrEggnog:
I looked over the current pokedex to see which pokemon could have their typing changed to Fairy, and most of them seem to be purely Normal-typed. The ones that are just normal would be then just Fairy if changed. Here's a list of possible ones on the internet.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7563346944/h2D27134A/
Since Jigglypuff didn't change from Normal to Fairy and just had Fairy tagged on instead, its fairly safe to assume none are getting retyped. They'll just have Fairy tagged onto it. Dual types may not change, but there hasn't been much to support either side of dual type changing to a dual with fairy.
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Quote originally posted by XanderO:
Since Jigglypuff didn't change from Normal to Fairy and just had Fairy tagged on instead, its fairly safe to assume none are getting retyped. They'll just have Fairy tagged onto it. Dual types may not change, but there hasn't been much to support either side of dual type changing to a dual with fairy.
I agree with Xander, any previous-gen Pokemon that's becoming Fairy-type (Gardevoir, Marill, Jigglypuff etc) is just basically having Fairy added on to their type, if that's the case with those who had pure typing beforehand. I don't think they'll bother with changing any dual-typed ones though.
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Quote originally posted by CmdrEggnog:
I looked over the current pokedex to see which pokemon could have their typing changed to Fairy, and most of them seem to be purely Normal-typed. The ones that are just normal would be then just Fairy if changed. Here's a list of possible ones on the internet.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7563346944/h2D27134A/
That list is silly. Lilligant's features and concept is more "fairy" than that of Deerling's and I can't recall a time where a Pokemon loses typing on evolution - only gains - so saying that Wigglytuff isn't "certain" is IMO a bit silly, too. If Jigglypuff is, so then will Wigglytuff! However, though probable, Igglybuff might not be and might inherit it upon evolution... going back to the whole aforementioned "gaining" of ypes on evolution.
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I'm wondering in what way will the new Fairy type change the competitive metagame...will it fix the Dragon-type's supposed dominance over all other types?
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