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Old June 26th, 2013 (05:40 PM).
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My new team. Lookin' fo' tips. Anything. Please. (Take note: this is a TSS team, so mold your advice to that sort of gameplay).

Tyranitar: @ Choice Band; Impish; 252 HP, 252 Atk, 4 Def

- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Rock Slide
-Shadow Ball

My sandstreamer of course.

Skarmory: @ Leftovers; Impish; 224 HP, 252 Def, 32 Spe

- Air Slash
- Toxic
- Roar
- Spikes

Starmie: @ Leftovers; Timid; 252 Atk, 252 Spe,4 SpD

- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Rapid Spin
- Recover

Garchomp: @ Life Orb; Naive; 252 Atk, 252 Spe, 4 HP

- Stealth Rock
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast

Metagross: @ Leftovers; Relaxed; 252 Def, 200 Atk, 52 HP

- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Rest
-Sleep Talk

Celebi: @ Leftovers; Calm; 252 HP, 236 SpD, 20 Spe

- Heal Bell
- Giga Drain
- Recover
- Reflect

I'm also looking for any 'Mon you would recommend in place of Celebi, for those times when I do non-legend battles. Thanks.
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Old June 26th, 2013 (06:39 PM).
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You have no SpinBlocker on this team, so I'd recommend you use a Golurk since it can also abuse Sandstorm's SpD boost. Not sure what to replace, though...

I'd attempt to give one more Pokemon a PHazing move, and one Pokemon should probably learn Haze.
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Old June 27th, 2013 (12:42 AM).
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Quote originally posted by papayaperson:
You have no SpinBlocker on this team, so I'd recommend you use a Golurk since it can also abuse Sandstorm's SpD boost. Not sure what to replace, though...

I'd attempt to give one more Pokemon a PHazing move, and one Pokemon should probably learn Haze.
*facepalm* Ground Pokémon don't benefit from the 1.5x Special Defense boost in sandstorm. Golurk doesn't really fare well in OU, because of its common weakness.

Anyway:

Tyranitar can't learn Shadow Ball. You may be looking at Shadow Claw, but Tyranitar doesn't get STAB from it; it gets STAB from Crunch, which has the exact same supereffective coverage as Shadow Ball. Also, Focus Punch requires tons of prediction to use, as it fails if Tyranitar is hit. Superpower is more reliable Adamant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Impish for more power:
-Stone Edge
-Crunch
-Pursuit
-Superpower
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 180 HP/252 Atk/76 Spe
Item: Choice Band
Ability: Sand Stream

Never, ever, ever use Air Slash on Skarmory. Its Special Attack is just too low to use the move effectively:
-Spikes/Stealth Rock
-Whirlwind
-Roost
-Brave Bird/Drill Peck/Taunt
Nature: Impish/Careful
EVs: 224 HP/252 Def/32 SDef or 224 HP/32 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell
Ability: Sturdy

Garchomp can act as a backup phazer should Skarmory go down:
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Dragon Claw/Dragon Tail
-Fire Blast/Aqua Tail/Protect
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 HP/196 Def/60 Spe
Item: Leftovers

Starmie could be a bit bulkier here. Change Surf for Scald (the burn chance is nifty at times) and the EV spread to 248 HP/36 Def/4 SAtk/224 Spe for more bulk.

Some Pokémon can utilize RestTalk more effectively than others. Metagross isn't one of those who'd use RestTalk well; though its bulk is tempting, it has better things to do, like support the team or hit hard. As papayaperson said, you need a spinblocker, like Jellicent or Gengar:

Jellicent:
-Scald/Surf
-Will-o-Wisp/Toxic
-Recover
-Taunt
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/216 Def/44 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Scald/Surf
-Shadow Ball/Ice Beam
-Will-o-Wisp
-Recover
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP/36 Def/220 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb

Gengar:
-Substitute
-Pain Split
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

You can consider another support move (like Thunder Wave, Perish Song, etc.) or coverage move (Psychic, Earth Power, Hidden Power (Ice, Fire)) instead of Reflect on Celebi. What has Reflect done for the team?

Ferrothorn makes a good Celebi backup, though the shared Fire weakness with Skarmory hurts:
-Spikes/Stealth Rock
-Leech Seed
-Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave/Protect
-Power Whip/Protect
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/88 Def/168 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell
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Old June 27th, 2013 (10:33 AM).
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Thanks for the advice! I think I'm going to be using Gengar in place of Metagross like you said PlatinumDude. Thanks to papaya as well.
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