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I was raging when I saw that rumor, but it could actually be different from what most people are expecting. Maybe dual-type moves are moves that don't have 2 types at the same time, but rather change their type during certain circumstances.
It won't be all of them, I think it will just be a certain handful such as Steel Wing, Muddy Water etc.
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It seems we fans who mentioned a Life and Death theme for the mascots were correct as Xerneas is the Life Pokémon, and Yvetal is the destruction Pokémon (aka death, just look at it's signature move DEATH wing).
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It seems we fans who mentioned a Life and Death theme for the mascots were correct as Xerneas is the Life Pokémon, and Yvetal is the destruction Pokémon (aka death, just look at it's signature move DEATH wing).
Getting ahead of myself a bit, but I wonder what this'll mean for the third member of this trio. Life, destruction (aka death...) what's followed or in the middle of those? Some sort of peace or spirituality theme? Interesting. Definitely love these concepts for the Legendaries though. Makes them the most interesting in a while if you ask me.
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Getting ahead of myself a bit, but I wonder what this'll mean for the third member of this trio. Life, destruction (aka death...) what's followed or in the middle of those? Some sort of peace or spirituality theme? Interesting. Definitely love these concepts for the Legendaries though. Makes them the most interesting in a while if you ask me.
Maybe age or some sort of regeneration? The 3rd member could be the Pokemon that decides the dispute between Xerneas and Yveltal if they are fighting against each other like the legendaries in previous games. I'm wondering if that will happen or if the 3rd member actually has a completeley different role.
But yeah, I agree. Xerneas and Yveltal are very well designed and their themes are interesting as well.
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At least the cotton candy one looks a bit like a french poodle. If it was in a cone or something, some people would go "BWAHHH I WANT OLD POKEMON BACK wkncf".

Anyway, the legendary typings don't surprise me at all. It was kind of obvious. X has the new type but...I'm considering getting Y.

Like Pancham's evo. It looks really cool.
We finally have squids, and they look awesome! The evolution looks like some kind of evil magician.
The bird looks a bit weird, but I really like the candy poodle. I wouldn't be surprised if it evolves into a more dog like shape.

The gym leaders look...interesting. The guy with glasses will totally have an Electric or Stell gym, but I wonder what the other guy will have. The team...The female grunts are ugly, but the male grunts are ok. But their intentions are too Team Rocket-esque.
The professor looks even younger than Elm. Wonder what tree will be his name.

Liking everything so far! I wonder what will be revealed on August. They say it's a lot.
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Seems like the Villainous team specialists in Fire types being Team Flare and judging by their appearance.. Interesting. Their goal to become rich with a lot of Money is a little predictable though.
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I'm actually pretty partial to Pancham's evolution. One of my favorite designs yet. And the first Squid is adorable. Not too high on the Squid evo/cotton ball/cotton candy thing, but that's just me. And I'll definitely want Y now because of Yveltal's typing and moves, etc. Even though X has Clauncher as a version exclusive. :(

And I actually don't think there will be a third one tied to the two of them. Creation & destruction is obviously very dual in nature, one springs from the other. Yin & Yang. Not much room for a third principle there.
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Maybe the third legendary will symbolize emptiness.It will reside in another dimension(like Giratina)where there is no other life.I can see them making a world like the Distortion World but we will have to use the 3D effect to solve the puzzles in that with ease in order to get to it.
Or we might have to use our Pokemon in the overworld(like riding one of them)to solve different puzzles(we will of course choose which because it is not sure that we will have a Pokemon that fullfills the conditions).The Legendary Pokemon might want to test the bonds we have with our Pokemon.

I love Panchams evo,definately on my team.I am getting Y for sure know because ''Skrelp''
The Evil Team doesnt interest me at all.Nifty outfits but stupid motive.I think that they will use Litleo and their Boss will use his final evo.
I am sure the mechanical armed Gym Leader will specialise on Electric(his Gym looks similar to Elesa's) while the other one on Rock(He looks like he is climbing a mountain and he has a hairstyle that resembles a mountain)

I am happy that Chespin's Final evo is most likely Dark.
The squids are awesome as well.

It is really exciting that we are getting even more news next month.Probably evos for older Pokemon.
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The legendaries' typings were no surprise, but the fact that Xerneas is a mono type did caught us off-guard.

Pancham's evo broke the pattern of bear Pokemon being only mono types.

Finally we got a squid Pokemon, and it's the first Dark/Psychic type (thank goodness it's not a Water type)

Looks like Honedge won't be getting Levitate after all, but it does get No Guard. Since Magmaruby mentioned it may learn Guillotine, it would really make it overpowered, but thankfully, the metagame bans OHKOs.

I was expecting the Cotton Cany Pokemon to get as much hate as Vanllite, but I'm surprised you guys are happy about it.

I'm still unsure what the pink bird Pokemon is based off of.

Team Flare's goal is to make money. But I wanted a team that plans to steal Pokemon DNA and use it on themselves, due to its genetics theme, as well as completing the GRAMPS theory (not counting Team Snagem).
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Maybe the third legendary will symbolize emptiness.It will reside in another dimension(like Giratina)where there is no other life.I can see them making a world like the Distortion World but we will have to use the 3D effect to solve the puzzles in that with ease in order to get to it.
Or we might have to use our Pokemon in the overworld(like riding one of them)to solve different puzzles(we will of course choose which because it is not sure that we will have a Pokemon that fullfills the conditions).The Legendary Pokemon might want to test the bonds we have with our Pokemon.

It is really exciting that we are getting even more news next month.Probably evos for older Pokemon.
Interesting idea, for sure! I can see something like that, though "emptiness" to me feels too much like death or even destruction. Maybe in this case, destruction =/= death, and that'll be the third theme? I can't wait to see these Legendaries in action, their moves look so cool from the screenshots!

As for the next month stuff, I think we'll most likely get second-stage evos for the starters. Next month or the one after, personal opinion though of course. Definitely would like to see an evolution or two to older Poke' too though!
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Interesting idea, for sure! I can see something like that, though "emptiness" to me feels too much like death or even destruction. Maybe in this case, destruction =/= death, and that'll be the third theme? I can't wait to see these Legendaries in action, their moves look so cool from the screenshots!

As for the next month stuff, I think we'll most likely get second-stage evos for the starters. Next month or the one after, personal opinion though of course. Definitely would like to see an evolution or two to older Poke' too though!
When i first saw the Legendaries' themes i remembered DeathNote. Ryuk told Light that if he used Deathnote he wouldnt go to neither Heaven nor Hell.I always wondered what that place was and i though something similar for the third Legendary.
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When i first saw the Legendaries' themes i remembered DeathNote. Ryuk told Light that if he used Deathnote he wouldnt go to neither Heaven nor Hell.I always wondered what that place was and i though something similar for the third Legendary.
In Christian themes(and perhaps others as well?), that place is generally called Purgatory. Could be somehow used as a Pokemon theme, just not sure how.
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I'm actually pretty partial to Pancham's evolution. One of my favorite designs yet. And the first Squid is adorable. Not too high on the Squid evo/cotton ball/cotton candy thing, but that's just me. And I'll definitely want Y now because of Yveltal's typing and moves, etc. Even though X has Clauncher as a version exclusive.

And I actually don't think there will be a third one tied to the two of them. Creation & destruction is obviously very dual in nature, one springs from the other. Yin & Yang. Not much room for a third principle there.
Well I doubt we are going to have another yin & yang trio, and given the subtle genetics theme we're having I wouldn't be suprised if they represent generation, degeneration and finally mutation- and I wonder if Mewtwo has something to do with it. Given Gamefreaks love for trios I would be even more suprised if there weren't a third.

Also, who wants to bet Gorondas name is going to be Pandamonium in one of its translations? Lol
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Well I doubt we are going to have another yin & yang trio, and given the subtle genetics theme we're having I wouldn't be suprised if they represent generation, degeneration and finally mutation- and I wonder if Mewtwo has something to do with it. Given Gamefreaks love for trios I would be even more suprised if there weren't a third.
Those themes make sense and Life and Destruction both relate to those, more scientific, terms in some way, so yeah I can see this being the case. But then, in a more spirituality way, how can mutation relate to the terms of life and destruction? That's the problem I see. Maybe I'm just looking too much into specifics though.
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Wow, I am in a super good mood. I have had mixed reactions with the previous new pokemon releases this year, but I have NO COMPLAINTS with these five!

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Too cute! Seriously!
I am calling it now; this will evolve into a french poodle, maybe with peppermint striped (or maybe a sheepdog). I just hope this is some sort of canine species! This is by far my favorite pokemon of X and Y thus far. Please don't crush my dreams with a derpy evolution GF.

Rating: 10/10


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Shushup doesn't really look like a bird to me. I sort of see a garden nome or witch/goblin/elf pokemon given the "beak" is more nose-like. I am very curious of what the evolution will look like. Pefume is known to be both healing and enticing, so I am guessing that it will be some sort of benevolent magical creature aforementioned. Either way, it is sure cute, though, I am not 100% sold. I need to wait and see the evolution.

Rating: 8.5/10


Given that I am not that interested in Clauncher or Skrelp (though I think the designs are nice), I am gonna have a hard time picking between the two fairy pokemon. I think, right now, without seeing the evolutions, I am going to give the edge to Peropaffu, Pokemon X. I hope they are like Petilil and Cottonee, in which, they can be traded in-game very early in the game, even though it defeats the points of exclusives. But I like both of them, so, I don't mind if they implement an early in-game trade!

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Okay, this pokemon would not be my first choice, but I really like the addition of this pokemon, and would use it on a second or third run. It reminds me of Ursula from the Little Mermaid, sort of hideous, yet with feminine qualities, and a dash of malevolence. Though, yes, a very gimmicky pokemon, I think the stat changes with turnover makes perfect sense and a clever use of 3DS technology. Also, I wonder how the animations will look like, will they appear completely different when flipped during battle? I hope so.

My rating: 9/10

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Relieved!

I thought this pokemon would look like Kung Fu Panda, but he is a complete beast. The black eyes are the best detailing and then the scruffy boxing robe design in his black fur gives the pokemon a more feral disposition, without the details I just listed, this pokemon would be a complete joke. However, this given those implements, this guy is not messing around and is sure to scare off any Beartic or Ursaring with as much as a glance.

Score: 9.5/10

Also, I am calling the third pokemon to compliment Yvelte and Xerneas, will be a ghost, to represent afterlife.
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Quote originally posted by reshilegend:
I was raging when I saw that rumor, but it could actually be different from what most people are expecting. Maybe dual-type moves are moves that don't have 2 types at the same time, but rather change their type during certain circumstances.
Dual Typed meas two types. If it doesn't have two types, then it isn't Dual Typed.

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I get the feeling that these dual-typed moves will be more along the idea that they're classified as one type but do super-effective damage of another type.

So for example, say you've got an Electric type move, your Electric-type Pokemon will get STAB from it but it'll do Water damage instead of Electric damage. That's my vision of what these dual-type moves will be. Would be an interesting twist if you ask me, if not get a bit confusing though.

But who knows, maybe they'll be more along the lines of Scald, or actually do dual-type damage.
STAB is calculated by damaging type not original type (Hidden Power Water only gets STAB from Water Type Pokemon not Normal Typed ones). If that were the case all Normal Type Pokemon would get STAB from Hidden Power. Coding an attack to do SE damage to something it doesn't normally do wouldn't be out of the question, but that does not fit with either version of "Dual Typed Attacks"

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Looks like Honedge won't be getting Levitate after all, but it does get No Guard. Since Magmaruby mentioned it may learn Guillotine, it would really make it overpowered, but thankfully, the metagame bans OHKOs.
No Guard doesn't have any effect on OHKO moves. They don't have normal accuracy checks and are based on the user's level vs opponent's level. Since it has a custom scripted accuracy No Guard doesn't effect it.
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Snagem isn't Canon to the Pokemon world. Its an off bran team made by a different company. GRAMPS is for Gamefreak official teams.
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Quote originally posted by Livewire:
I'm actually pretty partial to Pancham's evolution. One of my favorite designs yet. And the first Squid is adorable. Not too high on the Squid evo/cotton ball/cotton candy thing, but that's just me. And I'll definitely want Y now because of Yveltal's typing and moves, etc. Even though X has Clauncher as a version exclusive.
How dare you disparage that cotton candy ball 'thing'! :p

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At least the cotton candy one looks a bit like a french poodle. If it was in a cone or something, some people would go "BWAHHH I WANT OLD POKEMON BACK wkncf".

I really like the candy poodle. I wouldn't be surprised if it evolves into a more dog like shape.
Wow, those were my thoughts exactly.
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I prefer the bird looking one to the puff of perfume! :< I'm not one for the inanimate object themed Pokemon, haha.
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STAB is calculated by damaging type not original type (Hidden Power Water only gets STAB from Water Type Pokemon not Normal Typed ones). If that were the case all Normal Type Pokemon would get STAB from Hidden Power. Coding an attack to do SE damage to something it doesn't normally do wouldn't be out of the question, but that does not fit with either version of "Dual Typed Attacks"
Ah, never actually realized that. Good to know then. So, what versions of "Dual Typed Attacks" are you referring to? The ones I mentioned in that post or some other generally viewed idea?
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Anyone think there will be two evil teams (err even three)?

Red is a bold color. It feels like it is asking to be complemented. A team Flash, electric type, would be a great counter part. Flash and Flair could both mean gaudy and showy, (the corrupt forms of beauty.) I have an idea we may see fewer poison and dark types in the evil team(s) this generation.
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Maybe the third legendary will symbolize emptiness.It will reside in another dimension(like Giratina)where there is no other life.
Have a Psychic / Dragon Type. That way, Xerneas and Y-mon would both be super-effective against it. The Cycle of Life and Death overcoming the void of nothingness.
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Have a Psychic / Dragon Type. That way, Xerneas and Y-mon would both be super-effective against it. The Cycle of Life and Death overcoming the void of nothingness.
The Dragon would make perfect sense. I remember reading something about a Dragon being part of that Norse mythology, and a Psychic-Dragon type would be great as it hasn't been done yet (I think...right?)
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I was thinking Zakuro (the rock climbing gym leader) is probably situated somewhere near the mine.

Do you think those orange spots to the right side of the Kalos map is a rock climbing area?

On another note about Malimar, it's a bit annoying how it's type is Dark/Psychic since that would mean I would have to pick Froakie as my starter in order to have Malimar on my team....and Froakie is my least favourite of the three. :/
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Quote originally posted by Livewire:
I'm actually pretty partial to Pancham's evolution. One of my favorite designs yet. And the first Squid is adorable. Not too high on the Squid evo/cotton ball/cotton candy thing, but that's just me. And I'll definitely want Y now because of Yveltal's typing and moves, etc. Even though X has Clauncher as a version exclusive.

And I actually don't think there will be a third one tied to the two of them. Creation & destruction is obviously very dual in nature, one springs from the other. Yin & Yang. Not much room for a third principle there.
There can be a third as there's a hindi gods that is said to have three forms, one of Creation, one of Destruction, and one of harmony. While they may not be based on Hinduism they could still incorporate some aspects into them. The third member could be harmony, keeping the balance between the two, which is practically what Rayquaza, and Giratina did during their third versions.
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Favourite of these five is definitely Karamanero (The Evolved Squid Pokémon) It's design is really great IMO and the fact that it's the first Psychic/Dark type Pokémon is brilliant, I'll definitely be using this one on my team. I've kinda structured a team from the Pokemon revealed so far and since these five, it's become even more difficult because there's already so many I like and we've only seen about a fifth of the whole Pokédex for Kalos!
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