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Old August 7th, 2013 (08:49 PM).
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Quote originally posted by jellicentfan1:
Jirachi just recently got Meteor Mash in an event as well and when combined with Serene Grace it is really really powerful.
Jirachi is extremely useful as well. I personally don't think it's a completely fair comparison, because I think Metagross mainly as a hard hitter with good defenses while Jirachi is more of a versatile and jack-of-all-trades kind of Pokemon.
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Old August 7th, 2013 (08:51 PM).
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Levitate? Pshhh, Heat Proof is the way forward! And what's all this duel screens nonsense - Bronzong is a powerhouse in his own right on my teams. Sure doesn't have the best stats or moves for it, but I find him to be a very unique fighter at least and he can help out in some really tough spots. His supportive move sets are interesting, but they don't suit my style haha.
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Old August 7th, 2013 (08:52 PM).
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Jirachi is extremely useful as well. I personally don't think it's a completely fair comparison, because I think Metagross mainly as a hard hitter with good defenses while Jirachi is more of a versatile and jack-of-all-trades kind of Pokemon.
I'd agree with that! To me though Jirachi stands out as a Pokemon with one goal in mind and that is to hax the other Pokemon to death with paralysis and flinches.


Also @ Alex, Bronzong is much more powerful than I thought haha! I just checked it's stats and it can really run an all out attack set. With moves like Gyro Ball, EQ, Zen Headbutt, and Explosion it can be a powerful force!
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Old August 7th, 2013 (08:57 PM).
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Oh god Jirachi is horrid to face, it's the bane of my existence </3 That annoying parahaxflinch set up with some powerful attacks thrown in can be a huge pain in the butt and all the while you're left staring at some weird ugly imp thing... I don't even know what it's supposed to be haha. The fake tears etched into its skin are creepy as heck and the whole design is just irksome to me. Does anyone else think so?
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Old August 7th, 2013 (09:04 PM).
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Wow never looked at it closely before, but those fake looking tears are really creepy and ruins the design for me a bit.
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Old August 7th, 2013 (09:17 PM). Edited August 7th, 2013 by Aeroblast.
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Quote originally posted by AlexOzzyCake:
Levitate? Pshhh, Heat Proof is the way forward! And what's all this duel screens nonsense - Bronzong is a powerhouse in his own right on my teams. Sure doesn't have the best stats or moves for it, but I find him to be a very unique fighter at least and he can help out in some really tough spots. His supportive move sets are interesting, but they don't suit my style haha.
Bronzong with Levitate in rain. 0 weaknesses there if you manage to keep the weather up, and it was a powerhouse in my team and it helped mitigate my pitiful competitive battling skills.

Aside from that I don't really mind the "tears" on Jirachi, though I don't really understand why it has to be there.
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Old August 7th, 2013 (09:35 PM).
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Levitate or Heatproof?
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In all honesty though I personally think they're both useful abilities with their pros and cons. I personally see Levitate more although Heatproof doesn't sound half bad. Its just rather uncommon but its good to be different? I personally think Bronzong would be better with Heatproof just because fire-type attackers in my opinion are some of the hardest hitters in the game. While ground-types can make you quiver in your boots, an ability to reduce impact from these hot-headed creatures can really do Bronzong a lot of good. Plus fire-types are virtually seen running around a lot of teams compared to ground-types. While both of these types are common I think Heatproof would prove to be quite useful since there are kung fu monkeys and phoenixs at every corner. Levitate is great though don't get me wrong!

Also Jirachi is more annoying than Dunsparce and Liepard, fused. Full stop. Just watch it smile in amusement as it makes the battle so unbelievably frustrating. Substitute, Thunder Wave and then the Iron Head strategy. I honestly didn't think I'd meet something worse than Liepard, but I have. I'm looking at you Jirachi. I've never really liked it from that day forward since its an absolute pain in the butt to face. Although surprisingly there's actually an even more irritating steel-type out there. Skarmory. God damn it. Whirlwinding, setting up hazards and racking up damage. It also can reliably recover itself easily and it'll just make you shake your fist at it.

Offense wise, Durant can prove to be quite the effective threat with Hustle + Hone Claws. While Hustle does sacrifice accuracy for power, it can quickly patch that up and just rip through teams. Its got a pretty good defensive typing to keep it safe from Toxic Spikes and anything else trying to wear down the metal ant. All in all its extremely dangerous if you don't quickly dispose of it. I learned that the hard way. ):
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Old August 7th, 2013 (09:44 PM).
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I agree with you about Durant. It is really a very powerful Pokemon that I love to use, but because of Hustle you really need to use Hone Claws and it is really hard to set up because of a 4x weakness to fire and bad Sp. Def. If you can manage to set up though he can become a powerful sweeper due to high speed and really high attack.
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Old August 7th, 2013 (10:02 PM).
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Quote originally posted by TBgamer4life:
fighting type all the way :D blaziken would own any steel

Not necessarily! Take Bronzong with Heatproof as an example. It will be neutral to both fighting and fire moves and then retaliate with an Earthquake or Psychic type move which would take down Blaziken.
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Old August 7th, 2013 (10:13 PM).
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Quote originally posted by jellicentfan1:
I agree with you about Durant. It is really a very powerful Pokemon that I love to use, but because of Hustle you really need to use Hone Claws and it is really hard to set up because of a 4x weakness to fire and bad Sp. Def. If you can manage to set up though he can become a powerful sweeper due to high speed and really high attack.
Durant may have lacking special-based stats and HP but once this thing gets a Hone Claws going he can be pretty destructive with Iron Head and X-Scissor. Hustle may be hard to work with but Hone Claws does make up for it. It's one example of a fast but strong attacker. I do agree with Narnia, the little ant can be very dangerous if you don't dispose of him quickly.

And as for which Bronzong ability I prefer, definitely Levitate as it is way superior in competitive play because, unlike Heatproof which grants neutral damage to Fire, Levitate grants a complete immunity to Ground. And not to mention Jirachi is one of the best Serene Grace abusers out there, with the right moves this cutie can hax teams to death. Thunder Wave, Substitute and Iron Head is one true recipe for destruction and death by flinch hax.

Skarmory is also really annoying because it can shrug off many physical attacks plus it sets up entry hazards to annoy you even further. And last but not least, the annoyance known as Ferrothorn. A type combination that resists a lot, and it has an ability that makes any direct attack (making contact) you use against it inflict recoil back on you plus it has the moves to make use of its strategy. Even a Fire-type will have trouble taking it out in the rain.

Let's say that Steel-types are the true annoyances of the competitive scene, yet most have their own strategies to work with.
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Old August 7th, 2013 (10:25 PM).
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You mention Skarmory and I just wanted to add that it is even more of an annoyance due to Whirlwind. It can quickly put an end to your potential sweep by erasing all stat boosts you have accumulated. One of the reasons why it is one of the most used Pokemon.
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Old August 7th, 2013 (11:08 PM).
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Ohhhh how could I forget about Ferrothorn? I remember my first encounter with it, where it was carrying the standard set of Leech Seed, Thunder Wave, Protect and Power Whip. Its like Blissey all over again. With huge defences it can easily withstand any attacks that you throw at it (except for fire-type/fighting moves) and can stall you out. With an immunity to Toxic, Leech Seed and a good typing to support it, Ferrothorn arguably becomes one of the most frustrating Pokemon out there. Without a fire-type you're virtually left to its doom, being slowly whittled down. Unless of course you have something like a Breloom or something that can set up a Substitute before it falls victim to the three headed spike thing. All in all, if you're not prepared for it, you might just find it ripping apart your team. The Iron Barb + Rocky Helmet combo works quite effectively.

To sum it all up, Ferrothorn is basically like a punching bag for cursing. Except worse.
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Old August 8th, 2013 (07:03 AM).
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Quote originally posted by jellicentfan1:


Wow never looked at it closely before, but those fake looking tears are really creepy and ruins the design for me a bit.
I KNOW RIGHT. This is the exact thing making me hate that little pixie haha.

Quote originally posted by jellicentfan1:
You mention Skarmory and I just wanted to add that it is even more of an annoyance due to Whirlwind. It can quickly put an end to your potential sweep by erasing all stat boosts you have accumulated. One of the reasons why it is one of the most used Pokemon.
Ohh I do rather love Skarmory - he strikes me as the perfect example of a Steel type. He takes hit after hit after hit whilst just standing there setting up the field with his support moves and then wreaking havoc with it for the other team members. I think that's exactly how Steel types were intended to work, along with some powerful hits from their reasonable Attack stats and I love it.

Quote originally posted by Narnia:
Ohhhh how could I forget about Ferrothorn? I remember my first encounter with it, where it was carrying the standard set of Leech Seed, Thunder Wave, Protect and Power Whip. Its like Blissey all over again. With huge defences it can easily withstand any attacks that you throw at it (except for fire-type/fighting moves) and can stall you out. With an immunity to Toxic, Leech Seed and a good typing to support it, Ferrothorn arguably becomes one of the most frustrating Pokemon out there. Without a fire-type you're virtually left to its doom, being slowly whittled down. Unless of course you have something like a Breloom or something that can set up a Substitute before it falls victim to the three headed spike thing. All in all, if you're not prepared for it, you might just find it ripping apart your team. The Iron Barb + Rocky Helmet combo works quite effectively.

To sum it all up, Ferrothorn is basically like a punching bag for cursing. Except worse.
Despite what I just said about Skarmory, I haaaaate Ferrothorn haha. His moves and stats are perfect for being a Steel type and he does the job well, but he's just not Forretress and I'll always hate him for that. I adored Forretress, it was really cute! But now seeing this ugly mess of vines and spikes everywhere is... depressing, haha. I don't find him at all aesthetically pleasing and the thought of him moving around is perplexing, so he's not a favourite of mine at all. He's a great battler, but that's it.
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Old August 8th, 2013 (08:06 AM).
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I also am not a fan of Ferrothorn haha. I agree he is an amazing battler and very commonly seen because of that, but really to me is just bad. I agree his design is inferior to Forretress who plays a very similar role and just overall is a very ugly Pokemon that I hate facing and hate using.
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Old August 8th, 2013 (08:36 AM). Edited August 8th, 2013 by Dark Shadow 6.
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What made you join this club? I Reay Love Lucario And Lucario Is Steel Type That's Why I Join This Club

What is your favorite Steel-type Pokémon? My Favorite Lucario
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Old August 8th, 2013 (08:42 AM).
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What made you join this club? I Reay Love Lucario And Lucario Is Steel Type That's Why I Join This Club

What is your favorite Steel-type Pokémon? My Favorite Lucario

Welcome to the club!

Lucario is certainly an really popular Pokemon isn't he? I think because of all the spotlight he got with his own movie and special promotions will cement his place in Pokemon history as one of the most popular Pokemon ever. I know I am a huge fan of him because he is really a cool and unique Pokemon. Lucario is super strong and even is part of an evolutionary line with a baby Pokemon <3 Great choice of partner imo!
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Old August 8th, 2013 (08:50 AM).
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Your Right And I Think Dialga Is Most Powerfull Legendary Pokemon In Sinnoh
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Old August 8th, 2013 (09:30 AM). Edited August 8th, 2013 by Aeroblast.
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Couple of news:

1. New topic has been posted.
2. TrainerMusaddiq has been added to members list. Welcome!
3. jellicentfan1 has been promoted to co-owner and can now start new topics. Congratulations!
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Old August 8th, 2013 (09:50 AM).
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Who is your favorite Steel-type specialist? (From Jasmine, Steven, and Byron)

My Favorite Pokemon From Jasmine Is Steelx Because On Pokemon Gold I Chose Totodile And Battling To Jasmine Jasmine's Steelx Beat My Pokemon On Just Two Attacks Then I Use Review Then Beat Steelx
jasmine's Steelx Is Really Powerful
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Old August 8th, 2013 (09:53 AM).
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Oh awesome!

To answer the current topic though, I am going to have to say Jasmine. I feel that she was such an interesting character and the sidequest she sent you on to fetch medicine for Amphy showed that she has a huge heart and cares for Pokemon a lot. She ignored her duties as a leader to care for Amphy. I also liked the fact that she was the original Steel specialist and that will always make her stand out to me.
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Old August 8th, 2013 (10:32 AM).
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Who is your favorite Steel-type specialist? (From Jasmine, Steven, and Byron)

Definitely Steven. I like how he was the mysterious Steven Stone in R/B/E. His dad told you to give him a letter and you go to him and find out he's a strong steel type trainer. Then in Ruby and Sapphire he is also the champion. And to top it off, i just love his team.

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Old August 8th, 2013 (12:19 PM).
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What made you join this club? Although I've never really gushed about steel types before, I noticed now that I like quite a handful of 'em. It would be lovely for me to discuss them more with other folks.
What is your favorite Steel-type Pokémon?
Skarmory has a nice slick design with an awesome touch of crimson red. I like using him as my flier in Crystal. :3 Plenty of Steel types are cool, such Metagross, Escavalier, Scizor, Steelix, Aggron, etc. Skarmory is my favorite because his feathers are sharp as blades and can be separately moved, see see!


Jirachi's blue tears are awesome, what you talking about?! I love its star piece head and the yellow tags/ribbons. It's a very neat legendary Pokemon, though its third eye sometimes creeps me out... Nonetheless, very adorable.

Who is your favorite Steel-type specialist? (From Jasmine, Steven, and Byron)
Jasmine is beautiful and caring, so that's why I'm fond of her. She also isn't what one would expect having the steel type Pokemon.
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Old August 8th, 2013 (12:43 PM).
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Welcome to the club, TwilightBlade!

We seem to have a good amount of members now, maybe I could do one event before next semester starts. If you have a good suggestion, feel free to PM me.
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Old August 8th, 2013 (02:08 PM).
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Favourite Steel specialist? Has to be Steven. That guy had 'cool' down to a tee and the idea of a Steel champion was incredibly cool. I do love Jasmine, she's a wonderful woman, but Steven just takes the cake haha. His Metagross is an exceptionally cool Pokémon and his whole team just strikes "I'm a badass", which is very fitting for a champion. I also love his use of fossils which complement the Steel-types well and his use of moves like Iron Claw and Steel Wing which give Steel types a huge boost. He did the E4 proud <3
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Old August 8th, 2013 (02:17 PM).
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Quote originally posted by AlexOzzyCake:
Favourite Steel specialist? Has to be Steven. That guy had 'cool' down to a tee and the idea of a Steel champion was incredibly cool. I do love Jasmine, she's a wonderful woman, but Steven just takes the cake haha. His Metagross is an exceptionally cool Pokémon and his whole team just strikes "I'm a badass", which is very fitting for a champion. I also love his use of fossils which complement the Steel-types well and his use of moves like Iron Claw and Steel Wing which give Steel types a huge boost. He did the E4 proud <3

Definitely one of the best champions we have ever had imo. I was a little disappointed when they replaced him as champion with Wallace in Emerald.
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