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Haha I remember using a very strong physical attack on a blissey and it took FOREVER for it's HP bar to go all the way down to 0. It was going at the rate of 1 PPH(Pixels per hour) :P
Oh dear god Blisseys are a nightmare. I've tried everything on it, blasting it away with fighting moves, trying to poison it, it has such a whopping HP that it seems impossible to take down. While it doesn't have fantastic attack (actually come to think of it, its attack stat is virtually non-existent), Blissey is so painful to take down. The only reason I ever really manage to take them down is by setting up with stat-raising moves and then whittling it down, pixel by pixel. Eventually it just uses Softboiled and makes fun of my anger. Jesus that thing is a nightmare. Has anyone tried training one though out of curiosity? It seems almost impossible. :I
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Oh dear god Blisseys are a nightmare. I've tried everything on it, blasting it away with fighting moves, trying to poison it, it has such a whopping HP that it seems impossible to take down. While it doesn't have fantastic attack (actually come to think of it, its attack stat is virtually non-existent), Blissey is so painful to take down. The only reason I ever really manage to take them down is by setting up with stat-raising moves and then whittling it down, pixel by pixel. Eventually it just uses Softboiled and makes fun of my anger. Jesus that thing is a nightmare. Has anyone tried training one though out of curiosity? It seems almost impossible. :I

I would never even attempt to train one! You would have to basically use an ex.share the entire time because stalling out opponents to raise it to level 100 would take FOREVER. That is just not something that I would be willing to do. I guess you could say it takes a very special trainer to have the time to train a Blissey. However I guess it pays off in the end, but still is not something that I would be really interested in doing XD
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I would never even attempt to train one! You would have to basically use an ex.share the entire time because stalling out opponents to raise it to level 100 would take FOREVER. That is just not something that I would be willing to do. I guess you could say it takes a very special trainer to have the time to train a Blissey. However I guess it pays off in the end, but still is not something that I would be really interested in doing XD

I'm not even sure if its worth it to be honest. Yes Blissey is a highly regarded Pokemon in terms of competitive but is it really worth it? Even with an EXP. Share equipped, Blissey takes a huge time to gain just one level. If you think about it- there's more EXP required to get to the next level over the previous one. It'd just be so horrible and grueling to endure that I think only the die-hard Pokemon fans would attempt this. Stalling a Level 2 Bidoof with a Level 100 Blissey would just be saddening. Like, really saddening. I personally don't think its worth it, no matter how great of a wall it is. To be honest in-game wise Blissey is rubbish. Its just there to annoy the heck out of people. But its design is still cute I have to say.

While we're on the subject of bulky normal-types, how about the Porygon family? Would they be worth training and the trading that they require?
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I'm not even sure if its worth it to be honest. Yes Blissey is a highly regarded Pokemon in terms of competitive but is it really worth it? Even with an EXP. Share equipped, Blissey takes a huge time to gain just one level. If you think about it- there's more EXP required to get to the next level over the previous one. It'd just be so horrible and grueling to endure that I think only the die-hard Pokemon fans would attempt this. Stalling a Level 2 Bidoof with a Level 100 Blissey would just be saddening. Like, really saddening. I personally don't think its worth it, no matter how great of a wall it is. To be honest in-game wise Blissey is rubbish. Its just there to annoy the heck out of people. But its design is still cute I have to say.

While we're on the subject of bulky normal-types, how about the Porygon family? Would they be worth training and the trading that they require?

I think so. Even with the annoying processes of trading them, both evolutions are very good at what they do. Looking at Porygon2 first, it is a really good defensive tank that can take many hits over and over due to great stats and access to eviolite. Also with recover in its arsenal, PG2 can quickly become an annoyance that will not die. It also has a strong enough Sp.Attack to fire back and do damage as well.

Now looking at Porygon-z. This is a very strong Pokemon when you look at it. It's special attack is nearly unmatched and it also gets access to a great boosting move in Nasty Plot. Even after one boost it can destroy anything that doesn't resist it with it's STAB Tri-attack.

So in conclusion I would definitely say that the Porygon line is worth the annoying process of trading and training.
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I can definitely see where you're coming from Jelli! I've always personally enjoyed using them but the finding all of those items you need them to equip to evolve and then the trading process is just tedious. Still I've always found Porygon tough to train, I don't have much patience with grinding to be honest but I've tried using one in D/P/Pt and I was kinda disappointed. Competitive-wise however Porygon2 and PorygonZ are absolute beasts. While I think they could of been more creative with the evolution names the reference to its shape-like appearance is rather smart.

I'm kinda interested on how they made Porygon2 bulkier. Maybe its because its equipped with an Eviolite (since I haven't checked the base stats), but it seems Porygon2 can take attacks way better than its evolution. And then you've got PorygonZ who's mainly focused on special-attack with Nasty Plot and all the other moves that make it a dangerous threat. Its a pretty big jump from being a rather defensive Pokemon to all out attacker though, PorygonZ just appears to be so frail. Does anyone have an idea of why they did this? If I'm wrong on any of these facts then feel free to correct me. :p
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I can definitely see where you're coming from Jelli! I've always personally enjoyed using them but the finding all of those items you need them to equip to evolve and then the trading process is just tedious. Still I've always found Porygon tough to train, I don't have much patience with grinding to be honest but I've tried using one in D/P/Pt and I was kinda disappointed. Competitive-wise however Porygon2 and PorygonZ are absolute beasts. While I think they could of been more creative with the evolution names the reference to its shape-like appearance is rather smart.

I'm kinda interested on how they made Porygon2 bulkier. Maybe its because its equipped with an Eviolite (since I haven't checked the base stats), but it seems Porygon2 can take attacks way better than its evolution. And then you've got PorygonZ who's mainly focused on special-attack with Nasty Plot and all the other moves that make it a dangerous threat. Its a pretty big jump from being a rather defensive Pokemon to all out attacker though, PorygonZ just appears to be so frail. Does anyone have an idea of why they did this? If I'm wrong on any of these facts then feel free to correct me. :p
Yeah I kinda agree with you Sophie! I was looking more at the competitive aspect I guess and when you think about it..looking for those items to use in-game would not be fun to do.

As for the second part, I don't really know why they decided to make one defensive and then one offensive. I guess just to make the family kinda diverse?
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Yeah I kinda agree with you Sophie! I was looking more at the competitive aspect I guess and when you think about it..looking for those items to use in-game would not be fun to do.

As for the second part, I don't really know why they decided to make one defensive and then one offensive. I guess just to make the family kinda diverse?
Yeah some Pokemon are better competitively wise than in-game! Also the sport of item-hunting isn't particularly fun, I had to search high and low for a Reaper Cloth once. Then I realised it was right where I started. On a cliff in Snowpoint City. Shoulda know that if there's a cliff right in front of you that you can climb, some sort of goody has to be up there. And on a side note, personally I didn't think Dusknoir was worth it in the end despite its great reputation in competitive battling as a tank.

Diversity is great so I can see that as a valid reason. Although I've just thought of a concept explaining it. Porygon is stated to be based off computer programming right? Or at least it was genetically made using computers. Well PorygonZ sort of looks like it has been attacked by some sort of malware. Viruses or malware in general can slowly erase and damage your computer, making it significantly weaker once its gotten past your Firewall or virus-protection program. That could explain PorygonZ's significantly weaker defenses but I'm not sure. Its just a thought so if anyone has an opinion on what I just thought, feel free to share. :]
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Yeah some Pokemon are better competitively wise than in-game! Also the sport of item-hunting isn't particularly fun, I had to search high and low for a Reaper Cloth once. Then I realised it was right where I started. On a cliff in Snowpoint City. Shoulda know that if there's a cliff right in front of you that you can climb, some sort of goody has to be up there. And on a side note, personally I didn't think Dusknoir was worth it in the end despite its great reputation in competitive battling as a tank.

Diversity is great so I can see that as a valid reason. Although I've just thought of a concept explaining it. Porygon is stated to be based off computer programming right? Or at least it was genetically made using computers. Well PorygonZ sort of looks like it has been attacked by some sort of malware. Viruses or malware in general can slowly erase and damage your computer, making it significantly weaker once its gotten past your Firewall or virus-protection program. That could explain PorygonZ's significantly weaker defenses but I'm not sure. Its just a thought so if anyone has an opinion on what I just thought, feel free to share. :]

Never thought about it like that, but your theory does make really good sense Sophie! That would explain why PGZ is a bit more frail I guess.
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I just evolved my Porygon to Porygon-Z today actually haha. It's still level 1 XD I find that funny. But Porygon-Z will prove to be very useful because it can do so much which is why I like it. The move recover is also among my favorites and that helps a lot. I definitely consider the Porygon family a beast of a family just like the Chansey family haha.

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I adore normal-types!

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Furret @ Metronome
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Eevee @ Leftovers
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Cinccino @ Lucky Egg
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-Sweet Kiss
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Skitty @ Eviolite
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-Attract


Castform @ Icy Rock
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Your Partner Pokemon: Furret

Furret it my favourite Pokemon for obvious reasons! It's slim, nimble, is a normal-type, has a great design and is just simply adorable! I have never battled with one but plan to as soon I am able to play HG. It will be my first time hunting for a shiny!

Who is your favorite Normal-Type Gym Leader?

The only normal-type gym leaders I have ever beaten were Lenora and Cheren. Out of those two, I'd probably have to go with Lenora for she was more of a challenge than Cheren, especially with that Watchog! His Retaliate can be a pain.
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I adore normal-types!

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Your Pokemon Team:


Furret @ Metronome
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Eevee @ Leftovers
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Castform @ Icy Rock
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Your Partner Pokemon: Furret

Furret it my favourite Pokemon for obvious reasons! It's slim, nimble, is a normal-type, has a great design and is just simply adorable! I have never battled with one but plan to as soon I am able to play HG. It will be my first time hunting for a shiny!

Who is your favorite Normal-Type Gym Leader?

The only normal-type gym leaders I have ever beaten were Lenora and Cheren. Out of those two, I'd probably have to go with Lenora for she was more of a challenge than Cheren, especially with that Watchog! His Retaliate can be a pain.
Welcome to the Club Mokoko! I like Furret too, it's really cute :3. As far as cuteness goes I think Persian and Dunsparce take the cake in my opinion . I have never battled the two gym leaders you mentioned but maybe I will be able to in the future. What got you into the Normal-Type out of curiosity?

We have tournaments in this club once we get enough members, it will be really fun I think! I'm also trying to think of new ways to get everyone involved in the club so any ideas are most welcome . I hope you can consider this club somewhat of a home for your love of the Normal-Type. Again, welcome!
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Hi Mokoko! Welcome :D

I see that you used a Castform on your team which certainly makes me happy. He really is an underrated Pokemon isn't he? Furret is a Pokemon that I have always adored as well. He is a really cute Pokemon that is really fun to have on your team :D
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Hi Mokoko! Welcome :D

I see that you used a Castform on your team which certainly makes me happy. He really is an underrated Pokemon isn't he? Furret is a Pokemon that I have always adored as well. He is a really cute Pokemon that is really fun to have on your team :D
Have you used Furret competively before jellicentfan1? I have always been curious as to how people use this Pokemon and if they have any success stories? All I've seen of Furret is computers on Pokemon Staidum 2 make it look bad .
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Have you used Furret competively before jellicentfan1? I have always been curious as to how people use this Pokemon and if they have any success stories? All I've seen of Furret is computers on Pokemon Staidum 2 make it look bad .
I haven't competitively other than in randbats because it is simply too frail, but I use him on my in-game teams occasionally and he is quite a fun little guy to have!
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Welcome to the Club Mokoko! I like Furret too, it's really cute :3. As far as cuteness goes I think Persian and Dunsparce take the cake in my opinion . I have never battled the two gym leaders you mentioned but maybe I will be able to in the future. What got you into the Normal-Type out of curiosity?

We have tournaments in this club once we get enough members, it will be really fun I think! I'm also trying to think of new ways to get everyone involved in the club so any ideas are most welcome . I hope you can consider this club somewhat of a home for your love of the Normal-Type. Again, welcome!
Thank you! c: Yes, it is cute. ^-^ Persian was actually my favorite Pokemon when I was little. Now it's Furret, with Eevee coming second.

What really made love normal-type Pokemon is their design. I just love their simplicity! There are all different shapes and sizes and yet each one can manage to look amazing. I really can't name a single normal-type Pokemon that I dislike!

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Hi Mokoko! Welcome :D

I see that you used a Castform on your team which certainly makes me happy. He really is an underrated Pokemon isn't he? Furret is a Pokemon that I have always adored as well. He is a really cute Pokemon that is really fun to have on your team :D
Thanks, Jelli! Yeah, Castform kind of is one of those Pokemon many people forget about. He can be quite useful in battle, though. I used him once when I was playing Pokemon Pearl, and another time in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team.

I know! <3 Is it any good to use competitively?
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Thank you! c: Yes, it is cute. ^-^ Persian was actually my favorite Pokemon when I was little. Now it's Furret, with Eevee coming second.

What really made love normal-type Pokemon is their design. I just love their simplicity! There are all different shapes and sizes and yet each one can manage to look amazing. I really can't name a single normal-type Pokemon that I dislike!



Thanks, Jelli! Yeah, Castform kind of is one of those Pokemon many people forget about. He can be quite useful in battle, though. I used him once when I was playing Pokemon Pearl, and another time in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team.

I know! <3 Is it any good to use competitively?
I hear that competitively he is rather hard to use but I am very positive that you can make him amazing even when wifi battling.
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Alright lets get this club back into business shall we guys? AS for answering the current topic, I think that Dunsparce should evolve! I can only imagine how cool he would look if he evolved, I like Dunsparce because he is crazy-looking and it's a pretty cute Pokemon .

What do you all think?
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Alright lets get this club back into business shall we guys? AS for answering the current topic, I think that Dunsparce should evolve! I can only imagine how cool he would look if he evolved, I like Dunsparce because he is crazy-looking and it's a pretty cute Pokemon .

What do you all think?

I have always thought that Dunsparce could use an evolution! As I have said before, I simply adore him as a Pokemon and find him extremely underrated. Giving him an evolution would help him even more! I am not sure how the Pokemon design would look, but I am assuming that his tiny little wings could grow and maybe become a part flying Pokemon. Evolving him would also give Dunsparce the ability to utilize Eviolite and make him an even more useable Pokemon. So yes! I am definitely hoping that Dunsparce gets an evolution in an upcoming generation. =D
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I have always thought that Dunsparce could use an evolution! As I have said before, I simply adore him as a Pokemon and find him extremely underrated. Giving him an evolution would help him even more! I am not sure how the Pokemon design would look, but I am assuming that his tiny little wings could grow and maybe become a part flying Pokemon. Evolving him would also give Dunsparce the ability to utilize Eviolite and make him an even more useable Pokemon. So yes! I am definitely hoping that Dunsparce gets an evolution in an upcoming generation. =D
If we have luck on our side we may see that in generation 6! Haha I love Dunparce's tiny little wings, I think they're hilarious it gives Dunsparce character. However I don't want it to become a flying type out of all the types in Pokemon flying type is at the very rock-hard bottom for me. I don't know why, maybe it's because I'm afraid of heights I don't know haha .
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If we have luck on our side we may see that in generation 6! Haha I love Dunparce's tiny little wings, I think they're hilarious it gives Dunsparce character. However I don't want it to become a flying type out of all the types in Pokemon flying type is at the very rock-hard bottom for me. I don't know why, maybe it's because I'm afraid of heights I don't know haha .

Maybe he could become Normal/Bug or even Normal/Poison! I don't think we have either of those typings yet do we? Dunsparce has always hag that "bug look" to me so giving him an evolution and secondary Bug typing would make somewhat sense.
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Maybe he could become Normal/Bug or even Normal/Poison! I don't think we have either of those typings yet do we? Dunsparce has always hag that "bug look" to me so giving him an evolution and secondary Bug typing would make somewhat sense.
I agree with that, and no I don't think we have those combinations yet as far as normal-type Pokemon go. That would be cool, either of those options would be great although with my current team I would rather it be a normal and bug type evolution. I don't want the Psychic Pokemon to have a jig with my team haha though I do have precautions already set up for that.

Speaking of evolutions, I thought that the new "bull" pokemon was the evolution of Tauros but I was surprised to learn that it's not! What the heck game Freak? haha. I haven't played Black and White so excuse my lack of knowledge from that generation.
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Dunsparce definitely needs an evolution. I find it disappointing that they just throw on unnecessary evolutions onto things such as Rhydon when they're already coping fine enough and then leave out poor things like Dunsparce. Dunsparce's concept could be utilized into one of the most beastly evolutions in the game- seriously its an underrated Pokemon! If you look at its stats, I admit that there's nothing to gape at particularly and it looks like something that wouldn't hurt a fly but it could just be like Magikarp to Gyarados except ten times better. I could see Normal/Bug or maybe Gamefreak could do something about those tiny wings to turn it into some sort of dragon-like thing but we'll see. But there's endless possibilities to throw on and all they do is sit around and make legendaries that look exactly alike except for a few different features (Resolute Keldeo I'm looking at you >:[)

Other than Dunsparce I honestly wouldn't mind seeing an evolution for Tauros actually. While it might be a little unneeded it would receive a nice boost and a pretty cool design. Honestly I was surprised when Bouffalant wasn't shown to be its evolution, they look exactly alike except for the huge afro and eyes that look like a blast from the past.
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Dunsparce definitely needs an evolution. I find it disappointing that they just throw on unnecessary evolutions onto things such as Rhydon when they're already coping fine enough and then leave out poor things like Dunsparce. Dunsparce's concept could be utilized into one of the most beastly evolutions in the game- seriously its an underrated Pokemon! If you look at its stats, I admit that there's nothing to gape at particularly and it looks like something that wouldn't hurt a fly but it could just be like Magikarp to Gyarados except ten times better. I could see Normal/Bug or maybe Gamefreak could do something about those tiny wings to turn it into some sort of dragon-like thing but we'll see. But there's endless possibilities to throw on and all they do is sit around and make legendaries that look exactly alike except for a few different features (Resolute Keldeo I'm looking at you >:[)

Other than Dunsparce I honestly wouldn't mind seeing an evolution for Tauros actually. While it might be a little unneeded it would receive a nice boost and a pretty cool design. Honestly I was surprised when Bouffalant wasn't shown to be its evolution, they look exactly alike except for the huge afro and eyes that look like a blast from the past.
I agree with the Gyarados and Dunsparce argument. The whole Tauros thing confused me as well, I thought that Bouffalant would be the evolution of Tauros but I guess not...

What kind of Normal-type Pokemon would you want to see in the future guys?
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I agree with the Gyarados and Dunsparce argument. The whole Tauros thing confused me as well, I thought that Bouffalant would be the evolution of Tauros but I guess not...

What kind of Normal-type Pokemon would you want to see in the future guys?

I want to see a Normal Eeveelution. I have always thought that Eevee should at least be able to evolve once that doesn't involve some type of genetic mutation. I feel that this Pokemon would be physically based and really useable with access to strong STAB such as Return.
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Quote originally posted by jellicentfan1:
I want to see a Normal Eeveelution. I have always thought that Eevee should at least be able to evolve once that doesn't involve some type of genetic mutation. I feel that this Pokemon would be physically based and really useable with access to strong STAB such as Return.
A Normal Eveelution would be awesome! I imagine that it would look a lot like Evee but bigger and more furry? Haha. I bet that gamefreak has thought the same thing, it's definitely not a hidden concept I would think.

Does anyone have a topic that they would like to discuss?
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