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It looks great, I'll probably get a new iPhone and/or download the software. 5 20.83%
It was awful and Samsung is the way to go. 6 25.00%
They're desperate and Jobs is rolling around in his grave 8 33.33%
I prefer another brand of phone/software, like Android 10 41.67%
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The 5C's gonna retail around $549 off contract It's still just as expensive as the competition. It's not something I'd readily afford, anyways.
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The 5C's gonna retail around $549 off contract :( It's still just as expensive as the competition. It's not something I'd readily afford, anyways.
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Yes but what is unique about American companies is that they only care about the money. Seriously.
Do you have any examples of American companies only caring about money, compared to the rest of the world's companies?

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What is so important on my phone that needs that kind of protection? Idk.
Off the top of my head government workers, corporate workers, adulterers, spies, and teens with naughty pictures might want or need that level of security.

As for everyone else it saves you time typing or swiping a password to unlock the phone and prevents you from having to type your password each time you download an app or in-app purchase. (One of the main reasons I was considering switching back to Android.)
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Ehh, it's a feature that's evolutionary instead of revolutionary and tells me that I'm going to be paying for it. I don't want to feel like I'm paying more than I have to for an already expensive product ._.

And also, it is about the money. The customer is king. The company can decide to save some face and make the overseas product less profitable, but the profit's worth it I guess. It still comes across as a slap in the face for non-Americans. Setting the price to an equal amount of dollars in euros is just as arbitrary as setting the price to come up to the same after all tariffs. It's still how they do business.
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Do you have any examples of American companies only caring about money, compared to the rest of the world's companies?
Nintendo/Sony > Microsoft
Samsung > Apple
Toshiba > Dell

Ironically all of those are Japanese / American.
I would go into detail but I think you have the picture.

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Ok so Samsung is Korean. I'll go kill myself now bye.
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Off the top of my head government workers, corporate workers, adulterers, spies, and teens with naughty pictures might want or need that level of security.

As for everyone else it saves you time typing or swiping a password to unlock the phone and prevents you from having to type your password each time you download an app or in-app purchase. (One of the main reasons I was considering switching back to Android.)
A) Government personnel who carry sensitive information on their phones are stupid, put bluntly. Also, their phones are usually, I suspect, backed up with more firewall protection than Apple could even think of.
Same goes for corporate workers. Most large companies work an internal system where you're not allowed to take anything back home with you let alone download it to your phone.

B) People have never complained about that... ? Why now just because there's an alternative?
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The thing is, I don't think Apple ever said that the 5c was going to be "cheaper", I think that was all of the rumors/speculations. So the price doesn't surprise me all too much.
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The thing is, I don't think Apple ever said that the 5c was going to be "cheaper", I think that was all of the rumors/speculations. So the price doesn't surprise me all too much.
For the record, it is cheaper on contract prices than the 5s.. it's outrageous that the 5c is $99 on contract, but as much as $549 for the 16 GB 5c and $649 for the 32 GB off-contract. Quite the price range there if you ask me.
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They're never going to beat Samsung globally - they wouldn't compromise their standards (high price and quality) to a large enough extent to outsell them. Before you say "ah, but the Chinese are getting richer" guess what? The price of the iPhone will go up to accomodate this fact.
In "the West" though, this refresh could swing a lot of people over.

Personally I really like the look of iOS7. The fingerprint scanner on the 5S intrigues me, but something that risky there's no way I'm buying the first edition. The "low-cost" rumours around the 5C turned out not to be quite so true but on contract, a 32GB 5C is actually only £10 more than a 16GB 5, and £100 cheaper than a 16GB 5S.
The storage has sold me on the 5C, the colours are what's stopped me pre-ordering it. I'm going to get one of their dotted cases, but I need to see the phones in the flesh as with such bold colours I could easily end up hating my phone. Probably going to combine Blue and Green/Pink (depending on how pink "pink" is). The idea of them shipping each phone with the backgrounds set by default to match its colours is also pretty darn cool if you ask me.
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Aren't these things released like every year?
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Aren't these things released like every year?
Yes because hard-core Apple fans really like the product so apparently Apple wants to milk the iPhone to its fullest, in turn making a lot of cash on peoples' expense!

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They're never going to beat Samsung globally - they wouldn't compromise their standards (high price and quality) to a large enough extent to outsell them. Before you say "ah, but the Chinese are getting richer" guess what? The price of the iPhone will go up to accomodate this fact.
In "the West" though, this refresh could swing a lot of people over.

Personally I really like the look of iOS7. The fingerprint scanner on the 5S intrigues me, but something that risky there's no way I'm buying the first edition. The "low-cost" rumours around the 5C turned out not to be quite so true but on contract, a 32GB 5C is actually only £10 more than a 16GB 5, and £100 cheaper than a 16GB 5S.
The storage has sold me on the 5C, the colours are what's stopped me pre-ordering it. I'm going to get one of their dotted cases, but I need to see the phones in the flesh as with such bold colours I could easily end up hating my phone. Probably going to combine Blue and Green/Pink (depending on how pink "pink" is). The idea of them shipping each phone with the backgrounds set by default to match its colours is also pretty darn cool if you ask me.
Still though, love this:

Takes corporate Twitter trolling to a whole new level xD
Props to Windows on that, hahaha.

I'm not very confident that Apple will be able to live down the fact that it pilfered from Windows & Samsung. Only more proof that they're past the innovator stage and are the ones taking brilliant bits from other companies in order to stay relevant. Jobs is screaming somewhere I'm sure. But hey, if it brings in the dollars, it can't be that bad.
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For the record, it is cheaper on contract prices than the 5s.. it's outrageous that the 5c is $99 on contract, but as much as $549 for the 16 GB 5c and $649 for the 32 GB off-contract. Quite the price range there if you ask me.
And reminds me how much does it cost if both of them were off contract? I don't believe the 5C is that that cheap compared to the 5S since the 5C will set you back $550 at least.

and lol if you look at the back of the iPhone with the case they're promoting it says 'non'
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Ah, a gold colored iPhone... I can think of no better way of asking to be mugged.

Even then, the price differences for the higher capacity is a rip off. The storage is no diffrent from any SD card your pull off the shelf. a 16 gb would be 14, and a 32 would be 26. Put in a extra 12 worth of memory, jack the price up by a hundred. Hell of a markup.

Ah well. Plenty of suckers that need to be relieved of their money.
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Quote originally posted by PEDRO12:
Nintendo/Sony > Microsoft
Samsung > Apple
Toshiba > Dell

Ironically all of those are Japanese / American.
I would go into detail but I think you have the picture.
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Yes because hard-core Apple fans really like the product so apparently Apple wants to milk the iPhone to its fullest, in turn making a lot of cash on peoples' expense!

America.
Feel free to go into detail because I don't have the same picture of those companies as you do.

Which part of Japan is Samsung from? As far as the other 'Japanese' companies go, in their heyday they were much like Apple, releasing new products in the same category every year, many more in fact - possibly one of the reasons they are all struggling now.

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A) Government personnel who carry sensitive information on their phones are stupid, put bluntly. Also, their phones are usually, I suspect, backed up with more firewall protection than Apple could even think of.
Same goes for corporate workers. Most large companies work an internal system where you're not allowed to take anything back home with you let alone download it to your phone.

B) People have never complained about that... ? Why now just because there's an alternative?
A) Some people apparently have a need to carry sensitive information on their phones. I remember seeing a picture of Obama's $3,000+ NSA-certified phone from General Dynamics, there is no way stingy government agencies (particularly the military - note the Dragonskin armor fiasco) will pay that much to issue those to everyone so they have to resort to mainstream phones.
B) Its a somewhat common complaint among people who switch from Android to iOS, (as I had to recently) something iOS has required for a long time and is completely absurd.
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Guys, please don't turn this thread into an argument thread about companies other than Apple being better. This thread was meant to discuss the news from Apple from this past Tuesday, not to bash Apple. If this keeps up, then I'll have to unfortunately close this thread.
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My overall reaction to the new phones: Meh.

Do I want one? Yes. Simply because it's an upgrade from my 4S (which I can't get because I can't upgrade for about a year), but it's nothing mind blowing. The fingerprint scanner is really cool, but overall, the 5S is just a 5 with a better processor (which is definitely a good thing, but not exactly innovative). If they were going for "affordable" with the 5C, they failed. Off contract $300 or $400 is "affordable", not $550.

My reaction to iOS 7: Awesome. Fantastic. Best iOS yet. I installed the GM version a few days ago and I love it. The design is sleek and appealing, and the new features are great. The major reason I jailbroke previous iOS versions was to add options that are now available in the control center (quick toggles for WiFi, Airplane Mode, Flashlight, full music control, etc). Dynamic Wallpapers are a great feature, but should have been added a long time ago. Unlimited folder space is another thing that should have been added a long time ago, but I'm glad it was finally included. Overall, I'm super happy with iOS 7 and I think Apple did a great job with it.

TL;DR New iPhones? Meh. iOS 7? Awesome.
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My overall reaction to the new phones: Meh.

Do I want one? Yes. Simply because it's an upgrade from my 4S (which I can't get because I can't upgrade for about a year), but it's nothing mind blowing. The fingerprint scanner is really cool, but overall, the 5S is just a 5 with a better processor (which is definitely a good thing, but not exactly innovative). If they were going for "affordable" with the 5C, they failed. Off contract $300 or $400 is "affordable", not $550.

My reaction to iOS 7: Awesome. Fantastic. Best iOS yet. I installed the GM version a few days ago and I love it. The design is sleek and appealing, and the new features are great. The major reason I jailbroke previous iOS versions was to add options that are now available in the control center (quick toggles for WiFi, Airplane Mode, Flashlight, full music control, etc). Dynamic Wallpapers are a great feature, but should have been added a long time ago. Unlimited folder space is another thing that should have been added a long time ago, but I'm glad it was finally included. Overall, I'm super happy with iOS 7 and I think Apple did a great job with it.

TL;DR New iPhones? Meh. iOS 7? Awesome.
I kind of got this vibe too. I love how iOS 7 looks and feels, but what I saw from the phones didn't really grab my attention like they did in the past. And I can't look at the 5c now without picturing the Window's phone, which probably isn't good for Apple, unless I'm the only one who thought that.
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They really dropped the ball with the new iPhones. Hopefully people like iOS 7... otherwise who knows?
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They really dropped the ball with the new iPhones. Hopefully people like iOS 7... otherwise who knows?
iOs 7 is their only selling point right now, or at least that's how I feel. I don't know about Apple-drones honestly.
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How do you feel about the update so far? Have you found anything cool that you want to share? Is it too big of a change?

I feel that it's gonna take a while getting used to it. But it seems like it's pretty cool.
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I only have 2GB of data free on my phone and I need 2.9GB, so frankly I'm not liking the update too well.
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Oh goodness the trouble I'm having with installing this for my iPad, I've attempted three times now but it just keeps giving me errors. Part of me thinks that it's down to the fact that millions of other users are installing it simultaneously, but I'll keep trying!
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Oh goodness the trouble I'm having with installing this for my iPad, I've attempted three times now but it just keeps giving me errors. Part of me thinks that it's down to the fact that millions of other users are installing it simultaneously, but I'll keep trying!
If you haven't done it already, try updating it through iTunes on your computer. I finally got mine to work that way after getting a ton of failure messages earlier today.

So far I'm really liking the update a lot though. It's like having a new iPad all over again. When Apple for unveiled iOS 7 I thought it looked really feminine and the new stylized icons seems like a downgrade. However, once I got passed the aesthetics, the new features are what stood out the most. It's going to take a little getting used to, but I'm pretty excited about it and am already playing around with it trying to get used to the new changes.
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