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Old December 17th, 2013 (07:55 PM).
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Roserade has enough bulk to take Ice Beam from Suicune, then hit back with Leaf Storm for an OHKO. Sludge Bomb also can hit for a 2HKO:

0 SpA Suicune Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Roserade: 114-136 (35.1 - 41.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Roserade Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Suicune: 600-708 (148.5 - 175.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Suicune: 208-246 (51.4 - 60.8%) -- 92.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery


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Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Leaf Storm
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Heatran @ Assault Vest
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Fire Blast / Flamethrower
- Earth Power
- Dark Pulse
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Heatran ohkos with Fire Blast or Flamethrower. Roserade can't even retaliate because Heatran is immune to two of its moves while the other two moves deals around ~15% damage at best.
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Old December 17th, 2013 (09:26 PM).
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Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 Def
Careful Nature
- Seismic Toss
- Soft-Boiled
- Thunder Wave
- Stealth Rock

The best at walling any special set. Blissey just heals off any damage and continues to use Seismic Toss until Heatran goes bye-bye.
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Old December 17th, 2013 (09:49 PM).
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Machamp w/ Lum Berry
Ability: No Guard
Nature: Adamant
212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spe
~ Rest
~ Sleep Talk
~ DynamicPunch
~ Stone Edge

Machamp should be able to endure a Thunder Wave thanks to Lum Berry, then keep DynamicPunching Blissey until it's down and out.
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Old December 17th, 2013 (10:11 PM). Edited December 18th, 2013 by PlatinumDude.
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Aegislash:

-Swords Dance
-Autotomize
-Shadow Claw
-Sacred Sword
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 88 HP/252 Atk/168 Spe
Item: Leftovers

Aegislash walls Machamp's current moves and uses it setup bait for Swords Dance and Autotomize.
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Old December 18th, 2013 (01:20 PM).
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-Zygarde w/Leftovers (last I checked, Zygarde isn't Ubers, so its good)
Nature: Impish
Ability: Aura Break
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Attack
Moves: Earthquake, Coil, Stone Edge, Extreme Speed

+2 252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Zygarde: 151-178 (35.9 - 42.3%) -- 92.8% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

+2 252+ Atk Aegislash-Blade Shadow Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Zygarde: 177-208 (42.1 - 49.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

It's pretty obvious that Earthquake will OHKO Aegislash, and since it can take a couple of +2 attacks and not die, I'd say this is a counter.
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Old December 18th, 2013 (02:01 PM).
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Quagsire @ Leftovers
Bold
248 HP / 156 Def / 104 SpA
Unaware

Scald
Ice Beam / Encore
Recover
Toxic

Unaware ignores anything Zygarde gains from Coil. From there, Quagsire can either Toxic stall it out with Recover, Burn it with Scald so as to further limit its offensive capabilities, or lock it into Coil with Encore. Ice Beam is a simple 2HKO after Leftovers with the 104 SpA EV's invested.

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104 SpA Quagsire Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Zygarde: 224-264 (53.3 - 62.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
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4 Atk Zygarde Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 156+ Def Quagsire: 96-114 (24.4 - 29%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
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4 Atk Zygarde Extreme Speed vs. 248 HP / 156+ Def Quagsire: 51-61 (12.9 - 15.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever
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4 Atk Zygarde Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 156+ Def Quagsire: 32-38 (8.1 - 9.6%) -- possibly the worst move ever
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Old December 18th, 2013 (03:36 PM).
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Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Atk / 244 Spe
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Spore
- Seed Bomb

Resists Scald, and can Spore or Seed Bomb to get rid of Quagsire.
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Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
- Giga Drain
- Focus Blast
- HP Ice
- Synthesis

I use Tangrowth against opposing Breloom all the time and hardly anything else works better. Being immune to spore this gen, Tangrowth can (and will) take any punch the karate mushroom can dish out while healing off the damage with Synthesis and striking back with a deadly HP Ice.
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Old December 18th, 2013 (04:48 PM).
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Delphox:

-Fire Blast
-Psyshock
-Grass Knot
-Switcheroo
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf
Ability: Blaze

Delphox resists all of Tangrowth's current moves. It also hits it hard with Fire Blast or cripples it with Switcheroo.
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Old December 18th, 2013 (05:34 PM).
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Garchomp @ Garchompite
16 Atk/252 Sp. Atk/240 Speed
Hasty nature
- Swords Dance
- Draco Meteor
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

Should be able to take down Delphox with an Earthquake or two. If it manages to set-up Swords Dance, though, then it's a guaranteed one-hit knockout.
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Old December 18th, 2013 (06:58 PM).
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Bronzong @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Toxic
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Gyro Ball

Bronzong either resists or is immune to all of Garchomp's attacks. Then Garchomp gets to be toxic'd and just worn down by Bronzong until it goes bye-bye.
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Volcarona @ Lum Berry
Ability: Flame Body
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Quiver Dance
- Bug Buzz
- Fiery Dance
- Giga Drain

Volcarona Doesn't mind Gyro Ball or EQ, and Toxic won't matter much.
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Dragonite (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Multiscale
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Extreme Speed
- Fire Punch

252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 468-552 (150.4 - 177.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+1 252+ SpA Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 62-73 (19.1 - 22.5%) -- possible 5HKO
+1 252+ SpA Volcarona Fiery Dance vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 55-65 (16.9 - 20%) -- possible 5HKO
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Porygon2 @ Eviolite
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Ability: Trace
Nature: Bold
~ Recover
~ Thunderbolt
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunder Wave

It copies Dragonite's Multiscale ability thanks to Trace, allowing it to take an additional hit or two. After that, it cripples Dragonite down with Thunder Wave and keeps using Ice Beam until its HP reaches zero.
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-Mega Lucario w/Lucarionite
Nature: Hasty
Ability: Adaptibility
EVs: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Attack
Moves: Aura Sphere, Flash Cannon, Dark Pulse, Extreme Speed


0 SpA Porygon2 Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Mega Lucario: 90-107 (32 - 38%) -- 96.4% chance to 3HKO


252 SpA Adaptability Mega Lucario Aura Sphere vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 256-304 (68.4 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Old December 19th, 2013 (01:25 PM).
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Gyarados@Leftovers
248 HP / 164 Def / 96 Sp.Def
Careful Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall

Pretty self explanatory. Pretty much hard walls and sets up on the whole set.
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Quote originally posted by Dark Azelf:
Gyarados@Leftovers
248 HP / 164 Def / 96 Sp.Def
Careful Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall

Pretty self explanatory. Pretty much hard walls and sets up on the whole set.
Speaking of hard-walled.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Modest
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Water Absorb

Calm Mind
Hidden Power Electric / Substitute
Ice Beam
Hydro Pump

cbf calculating EV's for this. But basically, Water Absorb > Waterfall.

Sub + CM > ??? > profit
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Rotom-C w/ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid
4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
~ Volt Switch
~ Leaf Storm
~ Thunderbolt
~ Trick

Trick, Thunderbolt, then Leaf Storm away! If Leaf Storm can't get the job done, Volt Switch definitely will.
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-Heatran w/Air Balloon
Nature: Timid
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Moves: Fire Blast, Earth Power, Hidden Power Ice, Flash Cannon

252 SpA Rotom-C Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Heatran: 121-144 (37.3 - 44.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

That's Rotom-C's (why is it C? wouldn't M be better?) best attack against Heatran. And its pretty obvious what Fire Blast's gonna do...
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This thread just keeps going in circles. I think I've seen Heatran about 8 times. As well as this:

Rotom-W @ Leftovers
Modest
248 HP / 56 SpA / 204 SpD
Levitate

Hydro Pump
Pain Split
Volt Switch
Light Screen

Resists ERRRRRRYTHAAAANG and 2HKO's with Hydro Pump. Light Screen + Pain Split for longevity.
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Gastrodon @ Leftovers
Ability: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature
- Toxic
- Scald
- Earth Power
- Recover

Gastrodon is immune to both of Rotom-W's attacks and will just wait out the toxic stall. Recover is there so Pain Split doesn't do all that much.
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For the sake of getting out of this circle:

Cacturne:

-Swords Dance
-Seed Bomb
-Sucker Punch
-Substitute
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb

Cacturne doesn't fear Scald from Gastrodon, due to Water Absorb, and can eliminate it with Seed Bomb, or use Substitute on the switch in to ease prediction.
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Honchkrow @ Life Orb
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Substitute
- Roost
- Brave Bird
- Sucker Punch

I don't think Honchkrow has been mentioned yet. Anyway, resists both STABs and completely ruins Cacturn with Brave Bird.
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Golem @ Custap Berry
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Nature: Adamant
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Sucker Punch
- Explosion

252 Atk Life Orb Honchkrow Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Golem: 99-117 (27.1 - 32.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Honchkrow Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Golem: 133-157 (36.5 - 43.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252+ Atk Golem Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Honchkrow: 428-506 (105.9 - 125.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Golem takes literally nothing from Honchkrow, can easily OHKO with Rock Slide, and also can Explode in people's faces when he's about to die! :D
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