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Old September 26th, 2013 (07:06 AM). Edited December 13th, 2013 by Azazel.
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Delta Species Challenge

You may not know this, but some years ago the Pokemon TCG took a major twist by introducing a new kind of Pokemon, known as Delta Species. The Pokemon in question were normal by all means, but had types assigned to them that conflicted with their video game counter parts. For example, Bellossom was Water type. Some were even dual type, like Kingdra with Fire and Steel type. The idea was not hugely popular in the TCG world, but it is an interesting concept none the less! Now, thanks to ROM hacking and randomizers, we can recreate an experience where Pokemon change from their typical natures! The raw end of this is that there is still no way to replicate wholly this change with cartridge games. I will be making a challenge to go with the ROM version though, so no one has to miss out on the fun! So keep an eye out. Welcome, to the Delta Species Challenge!


Delta Species Evolution
(ROM Emulation Based Challenge)

To play this challenge, you will need 3 things:
-A main Pokemon Game ROM
-An emulator that can play your ROM
-The Universal Pokemon Game Randomizer

DO NOT RANDOMIZE THE POKEMON AVAILABLE! This is not a random Pokemon challenge.

If you need help finding a ROM or emulator, this is not the place to ask, nor should you PM me. There is an entire emulation forum on Pokecommunity you should look at if you need help. Sydian will kill me if you ask around General Pokemon Gaming, so don't!

Before you start playing your challenge, you will have to run it through the Randomizer. All settings that I do not specify should be left alone.

Required settings
Remove Trade Evolutions - On (You can't trade using hacked ROMs, so you'll need this)
No Game-Breaking Moves - On (You're going to randomize moves, so this is a must)
Pokemon Types - Random (follow evolutions)
Pokemon Movesets - Random (preferring same type)
TM/HM Compatibility - Random (prefer same type)
Move Tutor Compatibility - Random (prefer same type)

Optional settings
Update Moves
Lower Case Pokemon Names
B/W Exp Patch (Not recommended for Gameboy/Color games, buggy)
Pokemon Abilities - Either with Wonder Guard disabled
Pokemon Base Statistics - Unchanged or Shuffle only

Trainers Pokemon - Unchanged or Type Themed W/ Rival carries starter through game, Try to use Pokemon with similar strength, Don't use legendaries on only

Rules
1. Do not hack Pokemon or items into your possession
2. No Legendary Pokemon on your team
3. Challenge ends when you defeat the Champion (N is a Champion, he beat Alder so he's a Champion, end of story, but you should probably beat Ghetsis too. Ya know, it would be a real bad move to just let him do his thing).


Delta Species Generation
(Cartridge Based Challenge)

This challenge only requires a main series game and an appropriate game system. It can be played on emulators if you desire, though.

The basic idea for this challenge is simple, and has a bit more choice to it than the Evolution version of the challenge. In this challenge, you play using only a single type of move that does not match up with your Pokemon's type, the type is chosen by you, so choose wisely.

Rules
1. Do not hack Pokemon or items into your possession
2. No Legendary Pokemon on your team
3. Challenge ends when you defeat the Champion (N is a Champion, he beat Alder so he's a Champion, end of story, but you should probably beat Ghetsis too. Ya know, it would be a real bad move to just let him do his thing).
4. When you catch a Pokemon you wish to use, you must specify a type of move it can learn that does not match the Pokemon's type, or type it will evolve into. It must only use that type of move offensively after it learns a move of that type.
5. Pokemon may use any Support moves regardless of type.


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Username: (I mean your actual username on Pokecommunity!)
Game: (Any main series Pokemon game)
Challenge type: (Evolution or Generation)

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Game: Crystal Version
Challenge type: Evolution

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Old September 26th, 2013 (01:52 PM).
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Old October 3rd, 2013 (12:45 PM). Edited October 3rd, 2013 by Goomy.
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- The starters were Gastly (Fire/Ghost), Gyarados (Steel/???) and something else I don't quite remember
- I picked Gastly, named it Specter (F)
- After the intro part and where I got pokeballs I caught a Macargo (Dragon/Psychic) and theorized Blastoise's type to be Elec/Fly
- I'm currently Slowking/Tyranitar grinding for Falkner
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Old October 22nd, 2013 (09:09 PM).
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Old October 22nd, 2013 (10:20 PM).
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Sounds like fun!

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Old December 1st, 2013 (06:16 PM).
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I have revamped the challenge for ROM play so that it is more appropriate to the name Delta Species Challenge! A Cartridge version is on the way as soon as I can work out the details. Since the rules have drastically changed, anyone who signed up before will need to do so again, and restart their challenge.
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Old December 2nd, 2013 (12:09 AM). Edited December 2nd, 2013 by Annie.
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Oh and you should add the Give National Dex at start option for games lik FR/LG else they won't be able to evolve Pokémon not in their regional Dex.
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Old December 2nd, 2013 (06:13 AM). Edited December 2nd, 2013 by AngelicPikachu.
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Hmm..I will try this too

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Old December 2nd, 2013 (10:18 AM).
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Quote originally posted by †Dementia†:
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Challenge type: ROM
Optionals Selected: All
Oh and you should add the Give National Dex at start option for games lik FR/LG else they won't be able to evolve Pokémon not in their regional Dex.
Pokemon aren't randomized so it's unnecessary. Only types are shuffled.
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Old December 2nd, 2013 (11:00 AM).
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Quote originally posted by NecrumWarrior:
Pokemon aren't randomized so it's unnecessary. Only types are shuffled.

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*randomizes another ROM because she totally randomized straters and wild Pokémon too*
And I had a Fire/Ice Beautifly as a starter Q.Q that only knew Eruption despite me ticking the game breaking option
but... Fire/Ice Beautifly Q~Q
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Old December 2nd, 2013 (12:53 PM). Edited December 2nd, 2013 by Azazel.
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Added ability randomizations to the optional list. Forgot about it since I was building along with a Crystal ROM.

Changed the end of Johto region games to Champion instead of Red.
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Old December 3rd, 2013 (06:50 AM). Edited December 3rd, 2013 by TrollShammy80.
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Old December 4th, 2013 (04:16 AM).
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Old December 4th, 2013 (08:29 AM).
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R4 still uses a ROM. There is no Cartridge Challenge yet anyway.
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Old December 4th, 2013 (10:20 PM). Edited December 4th, 2013 by Imperator161.
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I'll give this a try.

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Game: Gold
Challenge type: ROM
Optional rules: Shuffle base stats, type themed trainer Pokémon

Progress so far:
-Just picked up my starter, Totodile. It's a Fighting/Water type and knows Rolling Kick and Crabhammer.
-Did the beginning stuff, visited Mr. Pokémon, got my Pokedex, etc. The main problem so far is that Hoothoot apparently knows Dragon Rage, which can currently OHKO me. That shouldn't be a problem for too much longer, but it's certainly annoying (though I guess it doesn't fall under game-breaking moves, since I disabled that option--it is a little broken for the very beginning of the game, though). Otherwise, so far, Hoothoot seems like it might be part-dragon, Rattata is weak to fighting, and Spinarak might be part Psychic? Interesting change of pace. Should catch my first Pokémon momentarily.
-Caught my first Pokémon, Rattata. It's Dark, though it only knows normal-type moves right now (Hyper Fang and Scratch).
-Caught Hoothoot. Pure Dragon. Knows Sing and Dragon Rage.
-Beat the first gym.
-Hatched Togepi. It's a fire type with Flame Wheel and Giga Drain.
-Caught Zubat. It's Psychic-type, and knows Confusion and Dream Eater.
-Caught Sandshrew. Poison-type, knows Crabhammer and Poisonpowder.
-Caught Mareep. Bug/Ice with Pursuit and Twinneedle.
-Totodile evolved into Croconaw.
-Beat second gym.
-Beat third gym.
-Hoothoot evolved into Noctowl.
-Caught Nidoran M.
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Old December 5th, 2013 (02:44 AM).
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Old December 5th, 2013 (04:31 AM).
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Old December 8th, 2013 (11:32 PM).
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I continued my quest, defeating several more gym leaders along the way. After collecting my fourth, fifth, and sixth badges in the Johto region, I traveled to Mahogany Town, where I soon learned something was amiss. I traversed rugged terrain to reach the Lake of Rage, home of an irate red Gyarados. After calming the electrifying creature with sleep-inducing spores, I captured it with a Great Ball.

Lance, a powerful trainer (who may or may not use dragon types), accompanied me back to Mahogany Town. Together, we infiltrated Team Rocket's hideout, driving the leaderless band back across the region. After that adventure, my team and I swept the Mahogany Gym.

Upon exiting the gym, I received a disconcerting phone call. Team Rocket had relocated from Mahogany to the Goldenrod City Radio Tower, and appeared to have locked down the city. Dispatching them would require expert assistance, help which I was willing to provide. Checking my team one last time, I headed for Goldenrod, ready to do whatever was necessary to drive the menacing gang from Johto once and for all...

The team (it isn't too stable, but this is who I have in my party as of the end of this session):

Gyarados L31 - Electric
-Thunderpunch
-Thunderbolt
-Heal Bell
-Cross Chop

Noctowl L25 - Dragon
-Dragon Rage
-Twister
-Ice Punch
-Heal Bell

Feraligatr L34 - Fighting/Water
-Headbutt
-Surf
-Karate Chop
-Guillotine

Growlithe L23 - Rock/Flying
-Ancientpower
-Rock Slide
-Razor Leaf
-Fly

Nidorino L16 - Bug/Fighting
-Megahorn
-Steel Wing
-Slash
-Strength

Togetic L31 - Fire
-Flame Wheel
-Giga Drain
-Spore
-Thunderpunch
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Old December 9th, 2013 (02:21 PM). Edited December 14th, 2013 by kingofeds.
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I like seeing randomized challenges like this. I'll hop on board.

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Optionals: Randomized Abilities (No Wonder Guard)

EDIT: SCRATCH WHAT WAS POSTED HERE... Comp crash made some of my games go missing... Gonna try again.
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Old December 10th, 2013 (11:31 PM).
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I arrived in Goldenrod City and headed straight for the Radio Tower. Prof. Elm wasn't kidding about the takeover--there were Team Rocket members everywhere. Fortunately, the ones outdoors seemed oblivious to my presence, so I walked right by a pair of them and in the front door of the looming building.

Unlike the tower's outdoor guards, the gang members inside the building itself refused to let me through without a fight. Still, they posed little challenge, and I quickly disposed of them and climbed the skyscraper. Before long, I reached the top floor, where I found the building's director.

Or so I thought. Actually, the man I encountered was little more than an imposter, prepared to defeat unsuspecting children like myself.

Like the others, though, the Rocket executive was no match for my team. After his defeat, he pointed me towards Goldenrod's underground tunnels, where I found my rival and a new collection of gang members and door-controlling switches. With my powerful Pokémon and my keen intellect, I crushed my opponents, opened the correct doorways, and eventually rescued the Radio Tower's real director.

Although I had saved the director, my work was not yet done. I returned to the Radio Tower and defeated the rest of Team Rocket's troops, freeing the tower from tyranny.

Hailed the savior of the Radio Tower and of Goldenrod City, my work in Johto's largest metropolis was done. I returned to Mahogany Town and headed east, passing through a scenic route until I reached Ice Path. I traversed its treacherous, icy roads, eventually emerging from the labyrinth in Blackthorn City, home to Johto's eighth and final gym leader.

After an exhausting day, my Pokémon and I headed to the Pokémon Center to rest up before our next challenge. Our next stop: Blackthorn Gym. Then, on to the Pokémon League!

The team at the end of this segment:

Feraligatr L37 - Fighting/Water
-Headbutt
-Surf
-Karate Chop
-Guillotine

Gyarados L35 - Electric
-Fire Punch
-Thunderbolt
-Heal Bell
-Cross Chop

Noctowl L29 - Dragon
-Dragon Rage
-Twister
-Ice Punch
-Heal Bell

Togetic L31 - Fire
-Fire Punch
-Giga Drain
-Spore
-Thunderpunch

Growlithe L31 - Rock/Flying
-Ancientpower
-Rock Slide
-Razor Leaf
-Fly

Nidorino L16 - Bug/Fighting
-Megahorn
-Steel Wing
-Slash
-Strength
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Old December 11th, 2013 (08:53 AM).
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Optional rules: Every one of them i could do.
NO nzulocke for me.
Optional rule of my own is NO DUPLICATES.
Didn't change the pokemon in the routes, just shuffled types.

Update numero uno:

-Met prof.Pedostache.
-Prof.Pedostache gave me a pokemon, i don't know the types yet, but i've picked Chimchar.
-So, i battled Nolan (rival) without knowing the type of chimchar, but i have Special Rend and Dragon Pulse, so i have a Dragon-type Chimchar, and apearently Nolan has a Grass-type Piplup...LOL.
-OMG Chimchar is Dragon\Water. I got an Infernape-Plakia hybrid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Chimchar grew to 7 and learned Roar of time. Aren't you jealus?!
-I gave him the mighty nickname of "Chimpkia"!
-I try to catch stuff but i can't!! too much power!
-I caught a lvl 3 female Shinx, i called her Donna and her tye is Electric\Water, kinda good considering she is supposed to be Electric anyway. OH and she has Charge beam.

That is it for now!
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Old December 11th, 2013 (07:33 PM). Edited December 11th, 2013 by SubVirus.
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Because I want it to be even more random. Random.org told me which game to play. It landed on #13 which i had Pearl down for.
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Game: Pearl
Challenge type: Rom
not Nuzlocke
Optional Settings
Spoiler:
Update Moves
Pokemon Abilities - Either with Wonder Guard disabled
Pokemon Base Statistics - Unchanged or Shuffle only

Trainers Pokemon - Unchanged or Type Themed W/ Rival carries starter through game, Try to use Pokemon with similar strength, Don't use legendaries on only


This sounds like the most exciting challenge i've read in a while. I'm excited to see what happens lol...
after the challenge i'm probably going to play it again with all the randomness turned on lol.
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Old December 12th, 2013 (06:35 AM).
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The game kept freezing so i restarted it. Starters were Bulbasaur, NidoranMale and Magby, and i chose Bulbasaur for the nostalgia. Well Bulbasaur is Fighting type, and i think Turtwig is Fighting type too so i'm gonna be annoyed as hell this run. I called my Bulbasaur "Hulk" because he is fighting type and he's green. I caught a lvl 3 male Shinx named Loki, he is Rock\Poison type. After handing the parcel to the rival, received the poketch and saved.

Hulk,Bulbasaur,Fight:
Sky Uppercut
Wake-up Slap
Brick Break

Loki,Shinx,Rock\Poison:
Pioson Fnag
Cross Poison
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Old December 12th, 2013 (08:31 PM). Edited December 13th, 2013 by SubVirus.
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Update#1 (number of steps it took to get to this update: 3836+whatever i had before getting the poketech which i'd estimate was another 1000)
I chose Piplup and it was a Steel/Poison type. Which means it takes 4x damage from all ground attacks. I decided that was ok... there probably won't be that many ground attacks this early in the game. (WRONG) my first encounter after getting Piplup was a lvl 2 bidoof... He attacked first with Bonemerang... my Piplup was 1 shot. I struggled to get to level 7 with my Piplup and i managed to get to the first trainer who i can't remember what he had but it knew Earthquake at level 5 (despite having no gamebreaking moves = true) lucky for me my Acekard 2i decided to error out/freeze so i had to start over from my save. My save was right before getting my first pokemon.
This time i chose Turtwig who was Dark. During the "How to catch a pokemon tutorial" The NPC's pokemon died in battle and was "blacked out" and still held up the script by giving me my 5 pokeballs and sending me on my way as if it went exactly right. (lolwat) Next i caught a Starly (normal) then Bidoof (Ground/Fire) then Shinx (Ground/Steel) then Zubat (Dragon) and finally Abra (Normal/Bug)of whom i was very happy didn't know Teleport. After getting a team of 6 i spent the next 6 hours grinding them into a team of level 11s (which wasn't easy considering Bonemerang does a lot of damage even at 1x damage) My abra got the PokeRus and passed it without any benifits (i use the pokecenter a lot and didn't even know he had it.... what really sucks is the fact i got that but haven't seen a shiny in probably 4 or 5 full pokemon games start to finish) I got into Oreburgh City and battled my rival which was a cakewalk with bidoof. Went down to fetch the gym leader and then beat him with not too much effort. He had an Abra (lv12) (Normal/Bug), a Rhyhorn (lv12) (Normal), and a Monferno (Normal) (lv12). My Abra took out his Abra, his Rhyhorn took out my abra, zubat, starly and turtwig, my bidoof took out his rhyhorn and his monferno without taking any hits.
This challenge has been very interesting so far. I look forward to whatever is thrown at me between badge 1 and 2.
My current lineup is
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Abralv12 (m)\¤¤\Normal/Bug\¤¤\Quirky nature \¤¤\Ability: Adaptability\¤¤\Moves: Silver Wind
Zubatlv12 (m)\¤¤\Dragon\¤¤\Modest nature\¤¤\Ability: Water Absorb\¤¤\Moves: Psybeam, Thunderbolt, Safeguard
Shinxlv12 (m)\¤¤\Ground/Steel\¤¤\Careful nature\¤¤\Ability: Limber\¤¤\Moves: Iron Head, Sand Attack, Mud-Slap
Starlylv12 (f)\¤¤\Normal\¤¤\Quiet nature\¤¤\Ability: Klutz\¤¤\Moves: Withdraw, Double Hit, Haze, Arm Thrust
Bidooflv13 (f)\¤¤\Ground/Fire\¤¤\Careful nature\¤¤\Ability: Huge Power\¤¤\Moves: Bonemerang, Return, Mud Sport, Sand-Attack
Turtwiglv12 (m)\¤¤\Dark\¤¤\Quirky Nature\¤¤\Ability: Serene Grace\¤¤\Moves: Pursuit, Power Trick, Payback

After making this update i will keep that lineup in my signature via the link.
See you next time.
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Old December 13th, 2013 (04:31 AM).
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The dead can't speak...that's why i'm always quiet
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Israel
Age: 17
Gender: Male
Nature: Calm
Posts: 996
UPDATE:

-Grinded to the 10s, defeated Gavin (rival).
-I caught a Starly,male,lvl 4 (Dragon), Nicknamed "Stan".
-Grinded Stan to the 10s too to match my team.
-Got to Oreburgh, i found out Hulk (Bulbasaur) can not learn Rock Smash, and now i'm searching for a pokemon who can.
-Stan evolved into a Staravia and became a Dragon\Ghost type!
-I got the Coal badge after defeating Roark!
-Caught a female Psyduck (Fight), and named her "Doz".
-Just Discovered Stan can learn Rock smash so i released Doz who couldn't.
-Loki evolved into Luxio!
-Arrived at Floaroma town.
-Caught a male Pink Shellos (Electric) named "Mr.Shizzle". He has Blast Burn and Zap Cannon, and the ability "Normalize"...NORMALIZE. Normal type Blast Burn? DANG.
-Hulk evolved into Ivysaur!
-Released Mr.Shizzle....You'll be missed, but you had normalize so...yeah.

Saved here. More updates later.
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