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Old October 27th, 2013 (10:54 AM).
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I'm feeling just a tiny bit suspicious, but please enlighten me why this is.

Though I prefer to have it like this instead of spending $30 on a new OS such as I did on 10.6 snow leopard :p
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I'm spending € 75,- to Apple, to get new Versions before they hit the App Store.
I'm aware of them being Buggy, but I like taking challenges.
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I'm feeling just a tiny bit suspicious, but please enlighten me why this is.

Though I prefer to have it like this instead of spending $30 on a new OS such as I did on 10.6 snow leopard :p
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Because Microsoft is giving away the 8.1 update.
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Old October 28th, 2013 (7:39 AM).
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Meaning that in the end, every OS is free now.
However, it's free as in price, but both Windows and OS X are still not free as in freedom.
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At least OS X Mavericks is free, and I know people who have been stuck on previous versions of OS X (as far back as Snow Leopard and Lion) because the past couple of upgrades had cost money. I like the idea of them offering the upgrade for free since it means that more people will get to enjoy the usage of the newest system and updates, and it'd probably be easier for more people to report common problems/bugs back to Apple as well.
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That's not always true.
Android is free, and always has been free, and yet so many people are stuck on old Versions.
I know it's the fault of Phone manufactures, but still, it shouldn't happen.
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That's not always true.
Android is free, and always has been free, and yet so many people are stuck on old Versions.
I know it's the fault of Phone manufactures, but still, it shouldn't happen.

Android is free because Google makes all of their money from advertisements.
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And that's exactly not my point.
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And that's exactly not my point.
Care to expand on your thought then? I interpreted it the same way as quilzel did.
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Her point probably is that even if an upgrade is offered for free, some people will be too afraid to update because they don't like change in the slightest, no matter how minor any changes are.
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Well, my point is, ZachLMedia basically said everyone is going to Upgrade, because it's free, so I said that shouldn't be necessarily true, because Android Upgrades are free too, and far from everybody has at least Android 4.1 running, while Google is about to launch Android 4.4.
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Where did I say that everyone was upgrading though? I said that more people would probably be upgrading, not everyone.
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Smartphones don't get updated because the carriers and/or manufacturers don't want to update them. Has nothing to do with Google. They want as many people as possible on the latest OS.
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At least OS X Mavericks is free, and I know people who have been stuck on previous versions of OS X (as far back as Snow Leopard and Lion) because the past couple of upgrades had cost money. I like the idea of them offering the upgrade for free since it means that more people will get to enjoy the usage of the newest system and updates, and it'd probably be easier for more people to report common problems/bugs back to Apple as well.
I mean, upgrading to Lion cost 25 at the time.
Upgrading to Mountain Lion cost 25 at the time.

Corresponding Windows cost a lot more than that when they were released, so I'm not sure why the people who would pay ~$2,000+ for their computers would have a problem shelling out $25.00 to upgrade to the latest OS. They could have very well went with their new pattern.

Also keep in mind that OS X Mavericks is the next operating system for Mac. It's not a retweak, which would make more sense to be free.

But with the rest of this post, I agree. They wanted more people to use the newest OS.
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Because Microsoft is giving away the 8.1 update.
But Windows 8.1 isn't a new major OS release; it's an incremental update, like a service pack.
OS X Mavericks (10.9) is a new major release.
Unless I'm mistaken?
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^ No, you're not. Mavericks is a new release.
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people who would pay ~$2,000+ for their computers
Lots of people keep saying that, yet it's false.
iMac: € 1.329,00
MacBook Pro: € 1.229,00

For US Dollars, change the Euro sign into a Dollar sign, and do the amount minus 30 in both cases.
$ 2.000 USD? Where?!
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But Windows 8.1 isn't a new major OS release; it's an incremental update, like a service pack.
OS X Mavericks (10.9) is a new major release.
Unless I'm mistaken?
Yes and no. The same could be said for Mavericks. While the visuals aren't much different, it is a full update; just like Windows Vista to 7. The NT kernel number is up +.1 from Windows 8(6.2) to Windows 8.1(6.3).
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Lots of people keep saying that, yet it's false.
iMac: € 1.329,00
MacBook Pro: € 1.229,00

For US Dollars, change the Euro sign into a Dollar sign, and do the amount minus 30 in both cases.
$ 2.000 USD? Where?!
MacBook Pro goes up to $2,599.00.
iMac goes up to $1,999.00.
So no, its not false. Sorry.

Nevertheless, that still doesn't change the fact that they're high end computers on the sales end, and people who can spare that much on a new computer aren't going to have a problem paying $25 for an operating system, which was the point of my post.
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Then that's not "$ 2.000+ USD".
The Plus (+) in "$ 2.000+ USD" means, "$ 2.000 USD or higher, but nothing lower".
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Now that's just a technicality. When we say something is $2000 in the US, it usually is $1,999. Besides, paying that much for a computer is just stupid.
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Then that's not "$ 2.000+ USD".
The Plus (+) in "$ 2.000+ USD" means, "$ 2.000 USD or higher, but nothing lower".
Don't forget sales tax. That will tack on an addtional ~$150

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Now that's just a technicality. When we say something is $2000 in the US, it usually is $1,999. Besides, paying that much for a computer is just stupid.
Your username is so ironic right now.
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Don't forget sales tax. That will tack on an addtional ~$150
Actually, all prices are including 23% VAT (Value Added Tax) for the European prices.
I don't know how it goes with American prices, though.
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I think the main reason Apple are giving it away for free is the same reason they always update iOS7 for free - they're primarily making their money out of devices - Macbooks, iPhones, iPads etc. so they can afford to give it away for free. Plus, it keeps us happy and wanting more from them, and makes them look good - whilst with Windows its still possible to buy a PC with an older version (i.e. 7, which in this case isn't a bad thing but lets ignore that for a second), you'd have to pay £60 upwards for the latest version on top of the cost of your PC, Apple are basically saying "buy the computer and we'll look after you, kid".

Also, might I point out its possible to buy Windows devices for Apple prices, with similar specs? Apple just don't do the lower end of the market - Toshiba etc. when making their computers are the equivalent of Samsung, trying to fill every niche. Apple meanwhile is simply trying to conquer the top end. And carve out new niches, although they haven't really done that since the iPad.
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Don't forget sales tax. That will tack on an addtional ~$150


Your username is so ironic right now.
My name has nothing to do with Apple ;-;

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Actually, all prices are including 23% VAT (Value Added Tax) for the European prices.
I don't know how it goes with American prices, though.
Our tax is added after, woohoo! It's dumb. We have no idea how much something REALLY is until checkout.
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