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Old December 12th, 2013 (07:34 AM).
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Hi all, i'm thinking bout all this perfect IV breeding but the fact that everyone says they have pokemon with 31 IVs confuses me because iv been told you can't find out the IV, all i know is that the guy in Kiloude pokecenter tells you which stat is what etc. How do you know what its number is? I'm finding this all very confusing and REALLY need some help or im not going to bother with this perfect breeding biz.
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Old December 12th, 2013 (07:51 AM).
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Quote originally posted by bluestars83:
Hi all, i'm thinking bout all this perfect IV breeding but the fact that everyone says they have pokemon with 31 IVs confuses me because iv been told you can't find out the IV, all i know is that the guy in Kiloude pokecenter tells you which stat is what etc. How do you know what its number is? I'm finding this all very confusing and REALLY need some help or im not going to bother with this perfect breeding biz.
If the pokemon has 31 IV the guy is gonna tell you:''Stats like those..simply cant be beat''I might have forgotten a couple of words in the phrase but thats pretty much it

Another tip:Wonder Trade on Wednesday!Many people put their IV bred chained pokemon there especially on Wednesdays.I got some pretty good ones!
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Old December 12th, 2013 (07:57 AM).
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Quote originally posted by JayTheKing:
Another tip:Wonder Trade on Wednesday!Many people put their IV bred chained pokemon there especially on Wednesdays.I got some pretty good ones!
Ok, I'll bite... what is so special about Wednesday? I've had a major fun time with Wonder Trade, and use it pretty much daily.
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Old December 18th, 2013 (12:59 PM). Edited December 18th, 2013 by BossBattle.
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Quote originally posted by EV♥:
Using Destiny Knot with a Power Item will not work. Destiny Knot and Everstone together will work though, so it advised to have the parent with the nature you want holding the Everstone and the other parent holding the Destiny Knot. Then there's a lot of luck involved to get the right combination of IVs to be passed on to the offspring.
I'm gonna have to disagree. Using the DK in conjunction with a Power item will work. Not sure if you didn't find out about it already and just didn't edit your post, but in case you didn't I ran a test to confirm it.

Here is my process for anybody interested:
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For this experiment, I observed the inheritance for each individual stat of the children, and if the Speed IVs of the parent holding the Power Item (Power Anklet) would consistently pass on.

1) Prep up and Setup
-First I grabbed my parents:
my flawless Tyranitar (Lv. 100 @ 31/31/31/31/31/31)
and my not perfect Ditto (Lv. 100 @ 1/2/30/3/20/12)
and reconfirmed their IVs via IV Judge and Metal Kid's IV Calculator.
-Gave my Tyranitar the Power Anklet and my Ditto the Destiny Knot.
-Dropped them both in the Daycare.

2) Breed, Hatch, and Natures
-Consecutively bred and hatched 30 Larvitars, nicknamed em' 1-30, and recorded each of their natures (for calculating their IVs later).

3) Finding IVs
-Went to the Battle Institute and proceeded to calc the IVs of all 30 Larvitars @Lv.50 with MK's IV Calc.

4)Confirming flawless IVs and 0 IVs
-Ran all 30 Larvitars through the IV judge to confirm flawless and 0 IVs.

5)Inheritance
-Found the IV inheritance for the Larvitars.
This is how I defined inheritance:
1. If any of the child's stat had IVs that didn't match either parent's IVs, then the inheritance was classified as a Varied IV(Proceed to point 2). However, on the chance that all of the child's stats matched either parent (Proceed to point 1.5).
1.5. Level the child up 20 levels while recording IVs at each level and input them into MK's IV Calc again for a more accurate evaluation (In case the reader doesn't know, MK's IV Calc becomes more accurate with more inputted data at different levels). Then proceed back to point 1. If the child's stats still matched either parent, omit the sample from the results; as finding which IV came from which parent would be impossible (Luckily, none of the Larvitars fell into this category).
2. Any flawless IV was inherited from Tyranitar.
3. Any non-flawless IV matching Ditto's IVs, was inherited from Ditto.


And here are the data/results:
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-Inheritance abbreviations:
T=Tyranitar
D=Ditto
x=Varied IV

------------[Child's IVs]-----------------------------------------------[Inheritance]
1: 31 / 31 / 8 - 9 / 2 - 3 / 31 / 31------------------T/T/x/D/T/T
2: 18 - 19 / 31 / 31 / 2 - 3 / 20 - 21 / 31-----------x/T/T/D/D/T
3: 14 - 15 / 2 - 3 / 30 / 31 / 31 / 31 ---------------x/D/D/T/T/T
4: 31 / 2 - 3 / 4 - 5 / 2 - 3 / 20 - 21 / 31 ----------T/D/x/D/D/T
5: 1 / 31 / 30 / 31 / 18 - 19 / 31 -------------------D/T/D/T/x/T
6: 1 / 2 - 3 / 14 - 15 / 31 / 20 - 21 / 31 ------------D/D/x/T/D/T
7: 1 / 31 / 30 / 2 - 3 / 28 - 29 / 31 ----------------D/T/D/D/x/T
8: 1 / 14 - 15 / 31 / 20 / 31 / 31 -------------------D/x/T/D/T/T
9: 26 - 27 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 ------------------x/T/T/T/T/T
10: 1 / 31 / 30 / 31 / 18 - 19 / 31 ----------------- D/T/D/T/x/T
11: 18 - 19 / 2 - 3 / 30 / 2 - 3 / 31 / 31 ------------x/D/D/D/T/T
12: 1 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 16 - 17 / 31 ------------------D/T/T/T/x/T
13: 1 / 31 / 4 - 5 / 31 / 20 - 21 / 31 ---------------D/T/x/T/D/T
14: 31 / 31 / 30 / 2 - 3 / 2 - 3 / 31 -----------------T/T/D/D/x/T
15: 31 / 31 / 12 - 13 / 2 - 3 / 20 - 21 / 31 ----------T/T/x/D/D/T
16: 31 / 2 - 3 / 26 - 27 / 0 - 3 / 31 / 31 ------------T/D/x/D/T/T
17: 31 / 24 - 25 / 31 / 31 / 20 - 21 / 31 ------------T/x/T/T/D/T
18: 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 24 - 25 / 31 -----------------T/T/T/T/x/T
19: 1 / 2 - 3 / 14 - 15 / 2 - 3 / 20 - 21 / 31 ---------D/D/x/D/D/T
20: 1 / 2 - 5 / 10 - 11 / 2 - 3 / 31 / 31 -------------D/D/x/D/T/T
21: 24 - 25 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 -----------------x/T/T/T/T/T
22: 31 / 2 - 3 / 30 / 20 - 21 / 31 / 31 ---------------T/D/D/x/T/T
23: 1 / 31 / 24 - 25 / 31 / 31 / 31 ------------------D/T/x/T/T/T
24: 31 / 31 / 30 / 2 - 3 / 2 - 3 / 31 -----------------T/T/D/D/x/T
25: 1 / 31 / 30 / 31 / 28 - 29 / 31 -------------------D/T/D/T/x/T
26: 31 / 31 / 30 / 6 - 7 / 31 / 31 --------------------T/T/D/x/T/T
27: 31 / 14 - 15 / 30 / 0 - 3 / 31 / 31 ---------------T/x/D/D/T/T
28: 1 / 2 - 3 / 31 / 0 - 3 / 14 - 15 / 31 --------------D/D/T/D/x/T
29: 31 / 31 / 28 - 29 / 0 - 3 / 31 / 31 ---------------T/T/x/D/T/T
30: 1 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 22 - 23 / 31
-------------------D/T/T/T/x/T


As you can see, 5 stats of either parents IVs are inherited; which means the DK works. E
very single child not only inherits Tyranitar's Speed IVs, but the children also inherits it every single time; which means the Power item, in this case the Power Anklet, works. In conclusion, means the DK + Power Item does, indeed, work.

While I do agree the item combo DK + Everstone will ultimately be the best, the combo of DK + Power Item has it's uses as well. Unless you have 4x/5x flawless Dittos or are breeding genderless pokes
the item combo of DK + Power Item is very useful for initially introducing flawless IVs to a child, when breeding a supply of 5x/6x flawless males (with low egg steps) for each egg group; since their natures do not matter, but only their flawless IVs do. This allows you to breed flawless Pokemon of certain egg groups with the flawless males relatively quicker, than having to start from scratch every time you want to breed pokes outside of the egg group. It also saves time getting flawless IVs on a poke with high egg steps when you've already got a flawless male to work with.
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Old January 11th, 2014 (12:46 PM).
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oh finally started to iv breed this week, takes forever but its worth the wit, do people normally stop at 5iv's? ive got 2 parents at 5ivs and trying to breed them to get an offspring with all 6iv's, have given one parent a destiny knot and the other an ever-stone for its nature, will it be better if i give one a destiny knot and the other a power item to pass the missing move down ? so far Ive got a box full of 4iv gibles and half a box of 5iv gibles.
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Old January 14th, 2014 (07:52 PM).
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Okay, see, Destiny Knot only lets 5 IVs from your parents pass. That last 31 you want MUST be randomly generated. The power item won't help you at all. I really suggest you go for the optimal IVs, not for the true flawless. That way you don't have to worry about the IVs that you're not gonna use anyway, and any true flawless Pokemon that DOES pop up will pleasantly surprise you.
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I hatched my first 6IV koffing today.... breeding with a 6IV Ditto holding Knot
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