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Old November 9th, 2013 (02:28 AM).
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Oh god.. I remember my old Youtube accound and the profile.
But when youtube did the changes it sucks. Google, this is madness! this is sparta!
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Old November 9th, 2013 (04:11 PM).
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I'm very fed up with Google making changes every month and forcing everyone into it. Pretty sure they're just doing it for the hell of it/sake of change and most things they update get changed once again within a few months anyway. The new comment system is the absolute worst thing to date so far, though.. good thing I don't leave comments very much. Feel awful for those who do and aren't into G+. ;x
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Old November 10th, 2013 (12:23 AM).
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All the hate. Even Facebook doesn't get this much backlash. I think the implantation could've been better. They fixed up the replies which were honestly horrible to begin with.

Tone down the Google+, keep it out of the drop down settings, still require a account. I think the tag and the Google+'s notification bell is brilliant, defiantly better.

I say just tone down and refine. Then we'll get used to it, we'll grow to love it. I love now how they moved the description, some of the new stuff, multisize, I mean Google has enhanced Youtube, well making dodgy decisions. Facebook goes more downhill than this.

Google+ isn't meant to be like facebook, their different beast entirely. Facebook is meant more for Family and Friends, well Google+ works for discussions.
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Old November 10th, 2013 (01:34 AM).
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In the old days, we all could set a Background, colours, customise our entire Channels, Embed any Video to our Channels, etc.

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Old November 10th, 2013 (02:13 AM).
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In the old days, we all could set a Background, colours, customise our entire Channels, Embed any Video to our Channels, etc.

Today, all you can customise, is a ****ing Banner.
Myspace > Facebook. Which ones more popular? The old days were nice, but simple and uniform is what everyones doing now.
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Old November 10th, 2013 (05:24 AM).
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This is what the co-founder of YouTube said about all of this:
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Old November 10th, 2013 (06:37 AM).
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Quote originally posted by MKGirlism:
This is what the co-founder of YouTube said about all of this:
That bulletin right there is just full of win in so many ways.
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Old November 10th, 2013 (10:45 AM).
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You know there's a problem with the new Youtube comment layout when even the co-founder of Youtube hates it.
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Old November 10th, 2013 (12:40 PM).
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I could see myself moving on to Dailymotion if this keeps up. I think it's stupid how you have to have a G+ account in order to comment on youtube. For god sake, this ain't some social networking site. I'm lol'ing at the ASCII art myself.
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Old November 10th, 2013 (03:06 PM).
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Can I get answer on why everyone is up in flames? I mean I get it, it could've been a better implentation. But:
-Better reply system (Grouped/Threaded)
-Reply Notifications without digging through the menus)
-One you link the account you don't have to use G+, it's just a option that there.
-Youtube is a sort of social site, without the social features till now.

I think Google should change it all back, but keep the replies grouped/threaded and the notification bell. Those are superior to what we had before. And make G+ optional.
Without change we cannot grow. And since Google owns Youtube and you expect it not to have a Google touch? Naive. I feel the same way when a site requires your facebook or twitter linked. But those are fine because their more wide-spread. Same principal though.
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Old November 10th, 2013 (06:40 PM).
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With the changes YouTube has been pushing more and more since Google bought them out, it's clear that Google only wants one thing: Domination. Google is using the same 'bundling' tactics Microsoft used in the 1990s to enforce their operating system monopoly. There is no technical reason for this commenting system change, much like there was no technical reason for Microsoft to bundle Windows 4.0 and MS-DOS 7.0 together and sell them as a single product (Windows 95). The DOS/Windows bundle was only done to enforce Microsoft's operating system monopoly position and wipe out the market for competing brands of DOS (such as Novell's DR DOS.)
This also reeks similar to how AT&T/Ma Bell forced their telephone subscribers to only use telephones leased to them by Western Electric (owned by AT&T), a practice which led to the 1970s antitrust lawsuit that resulted in the Bell System's 1984 breakup.

Instead of forcing a flawed social networking platform (Google+) down unwanting customer's throats by bundling and integrating it with a video sharing platform, Google should about-face and admit its faults, and invest in improving G+ (and maybe put out a commercial promoting such an effort, much like how General Telephone {GTE, now Verizon} put out a commercial in 1970 in response to their California customers complaining about "less than adequate service.")
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Old November 11th, 2013 (12:16 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Otter Mii-kun:

Instead of forcing a flawed social networking platform (Google+) down unwanting customer's throats by bundling and integrating it with a video sharing platform, Google should about-face and admit its faults, and invest in improving G+ (and maybe put out a commercial promoting such an effort.[/URL])
- Better video calling. (Which some has said it's better than Skype. Especially G+ Hangouts w/ extras.)
- Better image editing. (Facebook doesn't even have this.)
- Better for discussions. (The communities option, better than Facebook pages.)
- Great for events. (Imagine a facebook event page, with that cloud images (all images taken there would be shared with the people their (controllable.)
Plus another great thing is you can easily contact big ceos and other of companies, on facebook is pretty much pr team, you get real answers, from the big dogs, without hassle.
And Google is consistently investing and improving the service, at Google I/O, a event they just had 2 or so weeks ago. Google+ and Facebook are different beast. I do admit it's not perfect though, neither is any other social network. Facebook screws updates all the time.

I was on a youtuber forum earlier, and well there was some haters, some people who do youtube as a job actually see use in it, and could get to like, with some more work in the future.
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Old November 11th, 2013 (10:21 AM).
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My problem isn't that they changed the comment system. In all honestly, it wasn't exactly perfect before. My problem is how much they've been forcing Google+ accounts onto Youtube. For months now they've been asking if I wanted to link my Youtube account with Google+, and every time I politely declined their request. Now why go through all that trouble of asking for so long if you were just going to force it upon everyone anyway? That's just rude.

I like that we have more threaded comments, unlimited (?) character space, and more in the new system. Those are all good changes, however, the integration of it was poorly done and the force of Google+ is obtrusive. Youtube is incredibly lucky to have built the amount of success that they have, they're also lucky that there really isn't any other video upload site like it to give it any competition. But, they're isolating their users and changing things that are not wanted over things that need fixing. Not cool.
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Quote originally posted by countryemo:
- Better video calling. (Which some has said it's better than Skype. Especially G+ Hangouts w/ extras.)
- Better image editing. (Facebook doesn't even have this.)
- Better for discussions. (The communities option, better than Facebook pages.)
- Great for events. (Imagine a facebook event page, with that cloud images (all images taken there would be shared with the people their (controllable.)
Plus another great thing is you can easily contact big ceos and other of companies, on facebook is pretty much pr team, you get real answers, from the big dogs, without hassle.
And Google is consistently investing and improving the service, at Google I/O, a event they just had 2 or so weeks ago. Google+ and Facebook are different beast. I do admit it's not perfect though, neither is any other social network. Facebook screws updates all the time.
None of those things really seem to drive me to prefer Google+ over Facebook or other social network.The thing for me is, I just don't feel the need to join one more social network when I have Facebook, Intsagram, Tumblr, and Twitter (and DeviantART if you count that as a social network). That's enough for me and that's the problem with the new comment system. I'm being forced to use Google +, a social network I don't want or need, everytime I want to make a comment on video, like a comment, or reply to someone. I quite like Youtube so I don't see myself just switching to another video sharing site. They don't have as good video creators as Youube does. I mean have you ever heard of a famous Vimeo user or Dailymotion user? I haven't. Threaded comments doesn't seem bad at all cause it makes looking at replies easier. No character limit is nice and all , but now there's been more spammy and trolling comments such as these for example.
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There's a lot worse ones, but they're definitely not PC appropriate but yeah 5th comment down on this video.


I've seen more of these kind of comments after the new intergration was made public and they're annoying honestly. So in an attempt to make Youtube less spammy and have less trolls, they've actually made the problem worse. Also the top comment system is awful. The comments on this video for example.

All of the top comments lately seem to be more against her and more for Google +. But if you look at like/dislike bar, you'll see there's way more likes than dislike. 115,000+ likes is much greater than 3,900+ dislikes. And if you clicked on "Newest First" You'll see more comments supporting her and agreeing with her. This post explains it better than I can. He also posted a comment on the video which got over 400 thumbs up which now seem to have disappeared. It looks like to me Google is manipulating the top comments to make it seem people support the integration and love Google +. This is another example of this. Just simple censorship at it's best. As I said though, nothing wrong with threaded comments or the other features, just the fact you're forced to sign on to Google+ to make a comment. What would of been fine if it were just an option for people to be able to comment on Youtube using their Google+ account. Then I wouldn't be forced to have a social network I don't even want.
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My problem isn't that they changed the comment system. In all honestly, it wasn't exactly perfect before. My problem is how much they've been forcing Google+ accounts onto Youtube. For months now they've been asking if I wanted to link my Youtube account with Google+, and every time I politely declined their request. Now why go through all that trouble of asking for so long if you were just going to force it upon everyone anyway? That's just rude.

I like that we have more threaded comments, unlimited (?) character space, and more in the new system. Those are all good changes, however, the integration of it was poorly done and the force of Google+ is obtrusive. Youtube is incredibly lucky to have built the amount of success that they have, they're also lucky that there really isn't any other video upload site like it to give it any competition. But, they're isolating their users and changing things that are not wanted over things that need fixing. Not cool.
These changes are why I am giving up on vlogging on YouTube. I like G+, and I loved YouTube until the most recent changes. Of course in a few years many users will have just gotten use to it, it's still a hassle.
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I wish Google didn't bought YouTube at all.
Ever since they bought it, YT has been going uglier and uglier in every update... -,-

What I really hate the most is that I'm now forced to visit my G+ account to check on my newly received comments. -,-
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Quote originally posted by destinedjagold:
I wish Google didn't bought YouTube at all.
Ever since they bought it, YT has been going uglier and uglier in every update... -,-

What I really hate the most is that I'm now forced to visit my G+ account to check on my newly received comments. -,-
When it happened, I thought it was an awesome thing, that YouTube would see improvements in stability and other problems they had in the past. Strange how that has all changed, now I concur with you, it would have been better to see YouTube closed down than owned by Google, and I actually like Google.
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I have a question about all of this... Do comments and such get transfered to my Gmail or only G+ account? I don't have nor want a G+ account, so if I have to make one just to look at comments, I'm sorry but I am going to be p*****.
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Quote originally posted by AWsquared:
None of those things really seem to drive me to prefer Google+ over Facebook or other social network.
It dosen't have too, nothing is perfect for everyone. I don't like Google+'s layout, I find Tumblr confusing, I don't see a point in instagram, facebook does stupid updates (but Google updates G+ to make it better.)

I think this is the best response I've seen from a popular youtuber. And she's spot on mostly. I mean I'm sure theres a part of Google that's devoted to youtube, and making this change work. But its one small thing, and hating is easy when it comes to change.
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It dosen't have too, nothing is perfect for everyone. I don't like Google+'s layout, I find Tumblr confusing, I don't see a point in instagram, facebook does stupid updates (but Google updates G+ to make it better.)

I think this is the best response I've seen from a popular youtuber. And she's spot on mostly. I mean I'm sure theres a part of Google that's devoted to youtube, and making this change work. But its one small thing, and hating is easy when it comes to change.
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Quote originally posted by destinedjagold:
I wish Google didn't bought YouTube at all.
Ever since they bought it, YT has been going uglier and uglier in every update... -,-

What I really hate the most is that I'm now forced to visit my G+ account to check on my newly received comments. -,-
Google bought YouTube in 2006, Google+ came in 2011, or something like that.
Nobody could possibly know all this **** was coming, 7 years later.

Besides, YouTube was initially a School Project, if a company wouldn't buy it, we wouldn't have YouTube today.
But the thing is, Google shouldn't change so much, every change they make leads to negativity, and it's a full transformation, for the most of the time.
Look at Twitter or Facebook, they change just minor stuff, and they're commonly appreciated by their users, and after years, they still look the same.

However, if it was possible, I'd leave YouTube already, but if I do, I would have no money to even live from anymore.
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Quote originally posted by countryemo:
It dosen't have too, nothing is perfect for everyone. I don't like Google+'s layout, I find Tumblr confusing, I don't see a point in instagram, facebook does stupid updates (but Google updates G+ to make it better.)

I think this is the best response I've seen from a popular youtuber. And she's spot on mostly. I mean I'm sure theres a part of Google that's devoted to youtube, and making this change work. But its one small thing, and hating is easy when it comes to change.
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As a subscriber to iJustine, i saw this as soon as she posted it. I'm still not a fan of the new integration , that opinion might not change for a while, but I agree with her with hating thing just to hate them. Though I'm not hating Google's new update just to hate it, I 'm just not to fond of being made to use Google + when I prefer Facebook or Twitter over it. I find Google plus kind of boring for whatever reason.


And then all of the sudden spammy comments that didn't exist as much before hand is one thing I can't stand seeing. I'm tired of seeing all of the male genitalia ,Nazi symbols, and long walls of texts from books that have nothing to do with the video. -___-
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These kind of Spam Comments didn't affect me yet, but since YouTube switched to this Commenting System, we suddenly get people saying "Subscribe to me", which is annoying too.

Edit:
It looks like YouTube Live still runs on YouTube Comments, instead of Google+ Comments.


Edit 2:
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I have seen MORE spam since the change, because there doesn't seem to be a way to up or down vote comments via YT itself (I think you can + them in g+)

It's annoying, I LOVED the most liked comments, they're hilarious haha

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The new comment system is actually beginning to warm up to me a little.. although I will say it's annoying for those who have G+ and comment but don't want their profiles to be filled by Youtube comments that you have to click the little checkmark to disable publishing to G+ profile, unless there's a way to turn that off by default.
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