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Old November 16th, 2013, 09:43 AM
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When i was a kid, i used to love the anime,the characters the story everything,skip ahead to now i watched the new seasons and just couldn't stand to keep watching them,and even when i went back to the old ones,while they had nostalgia i still could see that the main plot is never really changed.What i mean is Ash never ages,Pikachu never evolves,Ash always losses in the pokemon league,Team Rocket tries to always steals pokemon and so on and so forth.So it raises the question should they remake the anime with all the pokemon, or just have ash actually age and change the story?
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Old November 16th, 2013, 06:11 PM
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I wouldn't mind seeing him age. I also don't mind the storyline.

However, I would highly suggest watching XY Anime. It breaths life back into the anime and is a lot better than other seasons for the most part.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 03:07 PM
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Although XY anime has vastly improved over the past generation's (my opinion), there has to be at one point where anime ends. How it will end, who knows.
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Old November 19th, 2013, 05:40 AM
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Although, the anime changes a little bit in every saga, the "story" is the same, Ash is trying to become a Pokemon Master which means, he wants to learn everything there is about Pokemon. So, I guess they have to stop making games if they want to end the anime. I don't mind seeing Ash age, I think they could easily do it if they want, like, (in the next saga, not in XY) they can set the time 10 years later. Like, Ash took a break from his journey and went back to Pallet town and he misses travelling so he decides to go on a journey again. This would be kinda interesting. Although, I don't care about Ash's age! I am cool with it. If you see the old episodes, you can easily see that he is more mature now.

I really can't imagine how I am going feel if they decide to end the anime. I would be really sad, but all good things come to an end right?
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Old November 19th, 2013, 06:57 AM
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I want the story to change. Moreso how they deal with the reset. I'd rather they just shift focus onto a new starting trainer every series instead of have Ash just reset and say he did things when in the story all the skill he gained is lost.
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Old November 27th, 2013, 09:10 AM
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I want the main aspect of the anime to remain the same, where Ash travels around a region with friends and earns badges/symbols/etc. and wins or loses the league tournament. It's little things that I want to change, most of which have been changing over the years. There needs to be less fillers, I'm being overloaded with them from Decolore. The characters also need to be changed. By characters, I mean their roles, not their personalities or VAs. Ash usually gets all of the fame and glory, which is okay because he's the main character. What's not okay is that his friend are almost disregarded. Most of them wall along with Ash and do nothing else. I mean, what has Iris done during BW besides catching Dragonite?
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Old November 28th, 2013, 12:07 AM
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Yes , Pokemon Anime need to change !
Because Pokemon can't survive like this forever no matter how many games came out .
Why do You think the rating of Pokemon Anime going down with every series ???
Even A XY series debut episode got lower rating compare to other series debut despite it being a good start.
Because People are losing interest !!!
With the passing of every series , People exception become less & less .
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''A new Pokemon series ! Who cares ? We already know what going to happen anyway ! Ash going to win 8 badge , Might face a Jerk rival who better then him even if he doesn't bond with his Pokemon , Get involve in some villainous ark , lose the league & might go on a filler Journey !
IT ALWAYS THE SAME STORY !
What the point of watching it if we already know the outcome ?
What the point of seeing Ash going though all those development if he dentine to lose anyway !
What will we look forward ??? The guy who going to beat Ash !!!
Pokespe much better then this , It always has completely different story in every series .
Atleast it doesn't repeat the same story over & over again !
No matter how much you love curry , If someone force you to eat 100 plate of curry in a row then in one point you will start to hate curry .
Pokemon is the curry now .
If Pokemon Anime keep repeating the same story then it will not survive during Generation VIII !!!
It mange to survive this long because there still a small hope that Ash might reach his goal someday .
Specially in Gen VI Because ''6'' is a special number in Pokemon. (Anyone with common sense can understand this)
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Old November 28th, 2013, 05:55 AM
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i found pokemon origins and that black2 white2 anime trailer far more entertaining then the how the anime has been lately. now they've gotten into a pattern of keeping ash, while tossing out the other characters once he gos to another region. also, the fact that they made that stupid plot error at the beginning of black & white doesn't help it much. you can't go off and say that ash and pikachu have been together more then a year, then turn around, make him younger & stupider then what he was. its like after dawn and brock left him pikachu became lazy & all those times hes been shocked by pikachu & got his head roasted by charizard has given him some brain damage & dialga decided to do some kinda time shift to make ash younger.
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Old November 30th, 2013, 06:38 AM
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All in favor of main anime becoming like Origins or the black/white 2 trailer say I!

Oh and after watching the English dub of Origins, green and red were voiced by male actors wut!? They seriously need to do this for Ash.
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Old November 30th, 2013, 06:58 AM
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They need to change it. I mean, when ash goes to a new region, either meets new "friends" or continues with his old ones. Then, magicly, everyone has amnesia and doesnt remember ash saving numerous times the world, neither winning all those badges. Pikachu´s level resets to 1 (or the pokemon from that region are over 9000 levels). Ash meets some jerk that learns to love pokemons. The pokedex database resets. Etc, etc, etc...
Maybe, they could focus in "extra" characters and their stories. Not just specials, i mean ACTUAL series. What about Gold, Silver and Crystal? And Wally? Where is he? And Misty? Will she hate Ash for leaving her in Kanto or will she forget about him? Or maybe forgive him?
But we will never know. Thats why creepypastas, fan fics and speculations exist. And pokemon hacks too!
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 12:49 AM
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^ they tried that with Pokemon chronicles
as for gold and crystal, theres jimmy, ethan(who looks just like jimmy & only appears at the beginging of Zoroark: Master of Illusions) & maria who are based on gold and crystal. silver briefly appears in a Japanese opening. then we have Brendan's only anime appearances which are small cameos in movies the openings of Jirachi: Wish Maker, Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea and Giratina and the Sky Warrior. the anime needs to change, they either need to trash it & start anew or stop making ash & co. onto idiots. how could anyone fall for this?


funny how iris & Cilan both leave after Cilan nearly left to go back home in the episode prior
well at least ash was happy to get rid of em, with his smile that was more of a smirk

in fact he was smiling a little bit to much during this episode, it was kinda creepy, like he happily killed someone

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Old December 2nd, 2013, 01:32 AM
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Honestly , Writers should stop being so scared !
I Bet , If the new protagonist start as a boy crushing on a childhood friend then thats enough to attract a lot of audience !!!
Writer has to get rid of the idea that Pokemon can be like ''Dragon tail'' , ''Bob The builder'' , ''Barney The Dinosaur'' , ''Doreamon'' and ''The Simpsons''
Most of those Anime only for Kindergartner While ''The Simpsons'' is for Adult audience .
Pokemon has much higher Audience !!!
The Pokemon game was popular among ''Elementary school student'' But you don't see the current game Targeting only Them.
The Anime should focus on the Audience then have rather then targeting other .
Because Pokemon meant to be a ''Shouene'' and there the Protagonist break the limit , he doesn't stay within it .
THE ANIME NEED TO CHANGE !!!
For 15 year , Ash being within the limit !
He never win the league , He doesn't go far beyond that !
But , He should gone far beyond the ''League'' and reach a higher class that no trainer able to achieve.
Because that how Anime like Pokemon work !!!

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When i was a kid, i used to love the anime,the characters the story everything
Because as a Kid you & me believed !
We believe that Ash will win the league & become Pokemon master .
We even believed That Ash will catch Legendary Pokemon .
But now , it just about Ash running around with some sidekick .
I honestly don't think that we start this anime just to see how Ash explore the world.
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 11:39 AM
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I think theyhad a good thing goingby the end ofbattle frontier Ash was skilled but thenhe meets Dawn and is stupid. Well he seems to be quite skilled in XandY anime. So we just gotta wait and see.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 11:39 PM
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How about The Anime change differently ?
Suppose , Ash become Pokemon Champion\Master .
Later he decide to join International police to save Pokemon.
However , He has to receive Police training .
So He admitted himself in ''International Police Training Academy'' which is basically like a school.
There Ash meet new rival , learn to use his head & go on Mini-mission which sometime turn into big mission.
The Next Gen , Ash goes to new region as a member of International Police to investigate the Villainous activity while keeping his champion status quo.
He also battle Gym-Leader\E4 Member\Champion for information or spearing And Aid the PC character of the region .
At least , This way we don't have to see the same thing of Ash getting 8 badge to get his ass kicked in the league.
Ya Ya , I know Pokemon wasn't suppose to be about fighting bad guy .
But that doesn't have any meaning after 'N-saga''.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 06:43 AM
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Honestly, I don't think the anime should change.

I like watching it the way it is now. Sure, the story line is basically the same...start off with friends, collect the badges, beat off Team Rocket, go to the Pokemon League. But that's how all the games are as well (well, Team Rocket changes...but basically). I really love watching all the seasons of the anime. So many new friends, new Pokemon, new places! It doesn't get boring to me.
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I don't want the anime to change as much as I want a spin-off aimed at an older audience. To radically change the current anime now would seem rather puzzling, especially to the younger kids who watch it. I think they really had something going with the Pokémon Origins special and I would love to see something of that nature become a full fledged anime with a beginning middle and end. This avoids the tragic need to reset the main character every time he gets to a new region and it also prevents the continuous cycle of losing the League every time. It will also allow them to explore different natures and aspects of a character should each season start with someone different and explore different goals so it's not a constant cycle of the same thing over and over again. There's always been a lot of potential with Pokémon as an anime, but I don't think the current anime can fully reach that potential even if it made some drastic changes to appeal to everyone and not just the simpler minds of children.
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XY did improve a lot of things...but I'd like to see a spin-off with the actual game protagonists as the leads. They did it right with Pokemon Origins...I would like to see one with the Unova protagonists.
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Only thing i want to be changed is in pokemon series paying more attention to continuity being consistent with character development(mainly Ash), acknowledging past regions and characters giving them some recognition with anime being treated as one entity.

At very least what should be changed imo is keeping past, previous companions and events, experiences Ash and others went through referenced and alived adding to credibility and appeal of story.

Some new level of innovation happening in pokemon series like character rotation perhaps.
That way we would still get new characters ,but at same time fans would be given opportunity to see their favorite characters from past in action again,being updated,refreshed and developed more taking them in new directions.

In actually meeting up with good friend of theirs Ash and being in company if route they are heading takes them in same direction to catch up on missed time, build on friendship with him and his new friends(like Bonnie, Serena and Clemont nowadays) and have them push story forward thx to their presence and connections their dreams might have with current plot bringing twist to story.

I think it would be interesting to see for instance May developing new style as coordinator,do steps forward toward her goal and develop new pokemon and potential rivals.
Enriching her roaster with new exciting pokemon, gain new rivals, tie up unfinished business with previous ones,working on strategies and new combinations helping her to win Grand Festival.


It would be also interesting to see Misty being developed with many things being left unexplored. She wants to become strongest and worldwide recognized water trainer so traveling to enter big tournaments where your knowledge and skill in using water pokemon is tested, meet renowned water specialists like E4 Siebald(first oure E4 of water pokemon)and catch new rare species would pave way for interesting growth, reveal more on her past band striuggles, fears she has yet to overcome.
While reviving some of those great humor, spunky dynamic and identity she brought to anime. For example seeing how different she and Serena are would allow for very interesting and full of energy interactions imo.

Same with Max for example,seeing him getting first pokemon and starting out journey would be more than welcomed to see. Have his promised battle with Ash, come back for Ralts and form formidable pokemon team in attempt of becoming strong pokemon trainer(he seems to be able to bond best with psychic types(Jirachi and Deoxys come to mind).

See Brock provide his assistance in nother regions giving us update on his doctor career, show new pokemon and come for symposium or seminars meeting up with Ash and co from time to time. While delivering that great humor, eccentric nature and balance, order his brotherly vibe and mature firm attitude was able to offer preventing things from going out of control.

Iris and Cilan would be highly welcomed too.

It would be certainly something new and fresh, being intriguing to see combination of older and new with favorites we used to like getting chance to shine too. Compared to get go rinse and repeat of what they have been delivering to us for past 11 years.

-another thing i wish to change is Ash and other characters aging a little bit. Not by large extent, but having Ash and others age by 2 to 3 years would keep them in line of still being relatable to younger audience, while also making progress and development they went through more believable. It would also help move Ash and other character stories forward, allowing to do more significant development with window of opportunities being open to take someone in new directions,have him deal with more refined struggles etc.not limiting writers options.

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You guys realize that if Ash won the pokemon league, which yes needs to happen eventually, the cartoon would pretty much be over in the aspect of one of the main reasons that trainers travel. Yes, I know there's other stuff like the Battle Frontier to do, but once you're League Champ, that's really kind of it for most people.

I would like more than an Origins special, or something the older pokemon fans could watch on Toonami or something
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You guys realize that if Ash won the pokemon league, which yes needs to happen eventually, the cartoon would pretty much be over in the aspect of one of the main reasons that trainers travel. Yes, I know there's other stuff like the Battle Frontier to do, but once you're League Champ, that's really kind of it for most people.

I would like more than an Origins special, or something the older pokemon fans could watch on Toonami or something
If Ash win the League then writer can focus on making Ash The World Champion.
Plus , Yugi become the king of game within 1st season but the story kept going on.
Actually , It would be cool if Ash admit himself in a school , make a ''Pokemon Battle club'' and then try to win Inter-high national Tournament .
I'm more interested in seeing ''The School-life of E4 Champion'' rather then a Kids random Adventure !
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I would like more focus back on the battle frontier. That little saga they did was great. It got me back into watching for a short period of time
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I wouldn't mind seeing him age. I also don't mind the storyline.

However, I would highly suggest watching XY Anime. It breaths life back into the anime and is a lot better than other seasons for the most part.
Agreed. XY is the first new Pokemon anime I've watched since advanced battle (and I gave up on that one pretty quickly). It's excellent. I just hope Ash can win for once. I mean, he won in the orange islands, but that wasn't a place in the main series games.
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