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Old February 10th, 2014, 11:39 AM
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I looked for the general Fairy Type discussion and couldn't find it so I assume it went over the month allowance. So why do you like Fairy types?

I am doing a mono-fairy run and I am having the most difficult time playing the game. I have one Fairy that is severely over leveled and the rest are so weak that I can't even use them. I have had my EXP Share on the entire time and the gap is almost 20 levels between my highest level (65) and the next closest (49). Just beat Frost cavern and everything but my Azumarill (the 65) gets killed in one shot.

How is everyone else dealing with the fairy types? Anyone having better luck than me?
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Old February 10th, 2014, 05:03 PM
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Only have three fairy-types at the moment--Togekiss, Mawile, and Sylveon. Togekiss' doing fairly well; currently, it knows Thunder Wave, Air Slash, Roost, and Nasty Plot. I've had plenty of success with this moveset. Mawile's not so bad, either. Been able to win quite a few battles thanks to its aid. As for Sylveon, I'm not too sure about it. Used it a few times before in-game, but I have no idea how well it'd be able to perform online. :P One Pokémon that I really wished to be re-typed to fairy is Celebi. Get instantly reminded of them every time I look at it, so, to me, it'd generally make a lot of sense.
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Old February 10th, 2014, 05:50 PM
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Hard to build a fairy team early on, which is probably why you have one taking all the XP.

plus, there are just so few fairy sweepers. Mr. Mime and Gardivor are the only ones. Sylveon's non-bank movepool is shallow. Try Moon Blast, Shadow Ball
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Old February 10th, 2014, 05:51 PM
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Fairies I've used so far are Gardevoir, Mawile, and Floette/Florges.

You really need to exploit TMs in order to give them well-rounded movesets for good coverage, I find.

Mawile- being Steel-type- has obviously been pretty useful as a wall (but does need some serious EV training to boost its mediocre defensive stats.


For the most part- I think it's obvious that Fairies are largely a support type. Great resistances- but for the most part they don't have the stats to abuse them (Dark and Fighting are primarily Physical- most Fairies have negligible Defense). Their weakness being Physical in nature also expounds that fact.


Florges has proven to be decent as a sweeper in-game, at least. Haven't tried her competitively yet.
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Old February 10th, 2014, 06:41 PM
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I used a Fairy-type on my League-winning team in X, a Sylveon.

It was my first time using an Eeveelution on my main team as well, and it surely is one of the better Eeveelutions on the competitive side of things, Pixilate-boosted Hyper Voices will allow it to not only do some pretty good damage due to its good Sp. Attack but allows it to break Substitutes as well.

Florges is also pretty good, even if she learns all those Grass-type moves despite being pure-Fairy. She's quite the special-based tank with that high Sp. Defense, and I just love how you can find her and her pre-evos in different flower colors. Oh, and her giggle reaction in Pokemon Amie is just one of the best!

I also used Azumarill, Mawile and Gardevoir briefly, and also Klefki. They seem to do a pretty good job in their preferred roles. This generation was extremely kind to the former three, such as Azumarill gaining some extra resistances and Play Rough, Mawile gaining a Mega (and also the aforementioned Play Rough) and also it and Klefki having what is said to now be the best defensive type combination. Gardevoir is now no longer weak to common Dark and Bug moves plus she also got a Mega that can hit really hard with Pixilate-boosted Hyper Voices.

Xerneas is also pretty great, it can really make use of the Geomancy + Power Herb combo to skip the charging turn of Geomancy and get the stat boosts immediately, plus its ability makes its STAB moves hit even harder. Fairy Aura + Moonblast after a Geomancy boost surely is gonna hurt.

Even some old faves like Clefable and Togekiss are now performing even better than they had previously since most damaging Fairy attacks are special-based and they clearly specialize more in special-based stats. Togekiss may have gained some additional weaknesses but it now gets two quadruple resistances and also immunity to both of Garchomp's STAB types.

Fairy does seem to be quite a supporter type since it has a lot of status moves and most tend to have good defensive stats, mainly Sp. Defense but some can turn out to be quite the powerhouse by not only taking some hits but dishing some out as well.

I had debated a while before playing the games on whether I would use a Fairy Pokemon and it turns out it was definitely worth it, because my Sylveon helped me a lot against some tough opponents.
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Old February 11th, 2014, 02:15 AM
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I personally have really mixed feelings about Fairy-type. Overall, it is very good type and balances nicely those Dragon-type Pokémon but the thing is there really isn't that many good Fairy-type Pokémon. Most of them either lack the speed or defenses and get 2HKOed almost every time and the ones that has decent defenses are Carbink and Slurpuff. But they aren't that good attackers on comparison because they mainly focus on defensing. In-game wise Fairy-type is brilliant and well suited for the game. I myself am running Y trough the second time since I managed to transfer my Pokémon to X and decided to take Sylveon with me. It's not EV-trained anyway and haven't even any Super Training with and it still manages to hold it's own in every battle (as long as you don't use it against Poison-, Steel- or Fire-type Pokémon because it's a suicide then).
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Old February 11th, 2014, 05:52 AM
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during my game play, i had Xerneas, Sylveon, Lapras, Blaziken, Charizard, and Chestnaught.

Xerneas was my primary Pokemon and was able to deal with any situation, it had Moonblast, Dazzling Gleam, Thunderbolt, and Psyshock.

Sylveon had Moonblast, Dazzling Gleam, Shadow Ball, and Return
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Old February 11th, 2014, 07:58 AM
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I personally have really mixed feelings about Fairy-type. Overall, it is very good type and balances nicely those Dragon-type Pokémon but the thing is there really isn't that many good Fairy-type Pokémon. Most of them either lack the speed or defenses and get 2HKOed almost every time and the ones that has decent defenses are Carbink and Slurpuff.

You can't tell me that Xerneas, Azumarill, and Togekiss aren't good Fairies. And its a small type since its new, so there isn't gonna be a lot of anything Fairy-related, good or bad.
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Old February 11th, 2014, 02:48 PM
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You can't tell me that Xerneas, Azumarill, and Togekiss aren't good Fairies. And its a small type since its new, so there isn't gonna be a lot of anything Fairy-related, good or bad.
Xerneas is a good Fairy-type Pokémon but I didn't include it on my post because it's a legendary Pokémon so of course it is powerful and can hold it's own in battles. And the point was basicly that if they have power they lack something that helps them survive a bit longer in competitive battles. Azumarill is like a cannon ball if you EV train it well and use it wisely but it still gets usually 2HKOed pretty easily. Togekiss on the other hand is probably the only Fairy-type Pokémon that is rather well balanced and can stand on it's own (if we don't include Xerneas here again). And yeah, I know that the main reason for Fairy-type being rather mediocre at the moment is because they lack Pokémon on that type which is a reason I wished to begin with that GameFreak would give us more than just a few new Pokémon in these games. But no, instead they decided to give us a whole lot of Mega Evolutions and said: "Oh well, these ought to fill the rest of the PokéDex. No one will ever notice anything, right guys?!"
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Old February 11th, 2014, 06:04 PM
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Dude, I was 95% positive when Fairy Types were announced, Celebi was gonna be a Fairy type. Everything about this little guy/gal screams 'Fairy.' I even made a $150 dollar bet with a friend on that and I lost.
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Old February 11th, 2014, 07:12 PM
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Are there any other Pokemon that you feel should be the type Fairy?

I think Milotic and Gorebyss should be water and fairy since they both look majestical like faries.
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Could celebi be a fairy type
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Old February 13th, 2014, 02:12 PM
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Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf perhaps?
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Old February 13th, 2014, 02:21 PM
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I was thinking Jirachi should be Fairy type.

Also, Granbull/Snubull's species name is the "Fairy Pokemon", so it makes sense as to why its a Fairy type now.

...but why the hell is it called the Fairy Pokrmon in the first place? Granbull does not equal Fairy to me. Maybe I should just chalk it up to Game Freak logic.
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Old February 13th, 2014, 02:37 PM
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Are there any other Pokemon that you feel should be the type Fairy?

I think Milotic and Gorebyss should be water and fairy since they both look majestical like faries.
Yeah, I definitely agree. These two do look a lot fairy-like, so turning them into one would pretty much make sense. :] Anyway, there's already a thread going on about fairy-type discussion; this topic would fit better there. If you don't mind, I'm going ahead and merging your thread.

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Old February 19th, 2014, 11:36 AM
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Fairy types are at most ok. None can be defined as op or very good. the best ones are togekiss, mahwile, sylveon and florgess. And the truth is that sylveon isnt all that good. Not much on them. The best are going to always xerneas and diancie
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Old February 19th, 2014, 12:16 PM
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Florges is by far my favorite fairy-type. I haven't experimented Sylveon yet but I want to soon, but I feel Florges pretty much went over the top in terms of fairy-types. It has outstanding Special Attack/Special Defense, and if you have it learn Calm Mind, its stats will go over the roof and it become a powerhouse in your team.

In general, the thing I like about Fairy-Types is that it has very little weaknesses.
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Old March 13th, 2014, 11:46 PM
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Fairy type is my 4th favorite type. Dragon used to be one of my least favorite types, but now that it's been nerfed, I like the dragon type a lot more. A lot of my top pokemon became fairies, such as Togekiss, Whimsicott, Clefable and Azumarill.

I think being completely immune to dragon is a little bit ridiculous conceptually and that I'd rather that it have been a resistance. (compare to a lv1 Pidgey dodging a lv100 Earthquake because it's not touching the floor at all) Furthermore, I dislike how fairy overshadows the Ice type (my 5th favorite type)... Ice was originally discussed as the go-to strategy to beat dragons, yet ice is such a horrible defensive typing. I would have rather that Ice and Fairy resist dragon and they share in the glory of nerfing dragons than one type being the reliable counter.
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In my first playthrough ive used a Gardevoir on my team, and i was really happy with it! its a great special attacker and has a good movepool to chose from imo. Also, ive experimented a little bit with Azumarill, and if you get one with Huge Power, you can seriously wreck house
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How the ♥♥♥♥ can a stupid clefeble win my epic Dragonite???
And my dragon moves got no effect???

FAIRY MOVES AND TYPE SUCK ♥♥♥♥ THAT FAIRY IS POWERFUL AGAINST DRAGONS

Well atleast poison and steel types have finally a purpose to be in game
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I just finished the main story and beat the pokemon league in X with Gardevoir on my team. I found him (mine was a boy) to be very useful, though he is a psychic/fairy type so the psychic also came in handy. Has a great moveset in my opinion, used the TM dazzling gleam when I got it from some gym leader and i've found Gardevoir to be a great addition to my team. I like the fairy type.
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How the ♥♥♥♥ can a stupid clefeble win my epic Dragonite???
And my dragon moves got no effect???
This is the reason why I like Fairy types. The idea of cutesy fairies beating up monstrous dragons is a dream come true for me. <3
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Old April 2nd, 2014, 06:10 PM
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I'm personally a huge fan of the new Fairy Pokemon Spritzee/Aromatisse. It may not be the strongest but it makes up for that in sass and trollish tactics that can get the job done if you know how to use it right!

From a battle stand point I think they're great. They balance out the previously very common dragon and fighting types as well as giving Steel and Poison more offensive usefulness.
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The introduction to Fairy types has not only nerfed the dominance of Dragon types and Fighting types (Only the pseudo-legendary dragons minus Hydreigon and about 4 Fighting types are in OU) but also give some Pokemon such as Vileplume and Lilligant type coverage against Dragons in the form of Dazzling Gleam as a TM. There are currently 6 Fairies in OU, based on a chart from last month, meaning it's not as weak as some perceive them to be, so I don't understand the hate other than those who were too use to the previous type chart since Gen II. What I'm confused is its advantage over Dark types, when they weren't that dominant in the OU metagame last gen (Hydreigon and Tyranitar were the only Dark types in that tier prior to Gen VI), so it felt like an unnecessary nerf unlike Dragon and Fighting. Sylveon is my Fairy type of choice, because I have so much using it to stall.
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it's not as weak as some perceive them to be, so I don't understand the hate other than those who were too use to the previous type chart since Gen II.
I think its more that some people have a problem with their big, tough, manly dragons getting pwned by something that is perceived in the West as cutesy and derpy, despite the fact that fairies in non-Disney folklore can be quite mischievous and nasty. It doesn't help that Game Freak sorta went and mixed the 2 views of Fairies.
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What I'm confused is its advantage over Dark types, when they weren't that dominant in the OU metagame last gen (Hydreigon and Tyranitar were the only Dark types in that tier prior to Gen VI), so it felt like an unnecessary nerf unlike Dragon and Fighting. Sylveon is my Fairy type of choice, because I have so much using it to stall.
Game Freak doesn't do things with the metagame entirely in mind. While they did state that Fairies were meant to balance out the OP Dragons (who I still think weren't that OP), they probably didn't think about the metagame beyond that. If they really were prioritizing the metagame, they wouldn't have given stuff like Blaziken or Garchomp mega evolutions or would've given Black Kyurem Ice Fang/Punch. Game Freak likes to troll.


The advantage against Dark probably comes from the Western view of fairies being good creatures/creatures of light, with Dark more or less being seen as evil (and the type's name in Japanese is "Evil", iirc).
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