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Old February 16th, 2014, 01:07 PM
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So I'm sure everyone who has this app knows about the first-timer reward of 100 pokemiles (or 10 BP), and the Celebi, and all that stuff.

Maybe this is just how my mind operates, but the thing that really intrigues me about the Bank is that you can potentially accumulate a steady supply of BP (well, pokemiles that you convert into BP) just by leaving a lot of Pokemon in there. I tried to find specific information as to the rate of BP, whether a box needs to be full or not, do you have to log in each day or not, etc, and couldn't find anything!

I guess nobody has looked into the specifics behind this yet, or they just haven't shared their findings. But regardless, I figured I'd start a thread where I post all of the findings that I come up with, and other people can post what they've found so far.

*Current Working Theory*

PokeMiles Earned Per Day = ( [ Total number of Pokemon in Bank boxes on previous day / 3000 ] * 100 ) - 1

Essentially, the app is determining how many of the 3000 slots in your Bank are full (every Pokemon is counted, no matter where it is). It then expresses it as a percentage (hence, the 100 multiplier). Then, it seems to subtract 1 for some reason. This correction is necessary to fit with observation, and I have no idea why it subtracts 1 in the end. Maybe to avoid Transport Box confusion, but I really don't know for sure.

If the answer to the above equation contains a decimal, I believe it just gets rounded down to the nearest integer, then the decimal gets added on to the next day's number (where it again rounds down). For instance, if you have 2.3 Boxes full, you would get 1.3 Miles the next day. You would therefore actually receive 1 mile, then 1 mile the next day (1.3 + 0.3 = 1.6, which rounds down to 1), then 1 mile the next day (1.3 + 0.6 = 1.9 rounds down to 1), then 2 miles the next day (1.3 + 0.9 = 2.2, rounds down to 2), then back to 1 mile the next day (1.3 + 0.2 = 1.5, rounds to 1), etc. So you get a 1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2 sort of pattern, which is exactly what I've observed myself.

I must be crazy for finding this fun to think about!


*How to get Maximum BP per day*
I'm afraid that, operating under this theory, the only way to get the maximum amount of Miles (or BP) per day is to fill every single slot in your Bank.

The max amount of Miles per day, then, would be 99 (possibly 100 if the Transport Box DOES count), which would be 9.9 BP per day.


My Findings:

- Pokemiles update every 24 hours from roughly the time you first used the software; i.e. if Bridgette says you have 3 PokeMiles, you will stay at 3 until the next day no matter what.
- When you've made it to 10 PokeMiles, you can send them to your game in that form (or as 1 BP, if you so choose) Not sure what happens if you go beyond a multiple of 10
- Even having 2 bank boxes completely full, I still only manage to get 1 PokeMile overnight, so if "number of full boxes" does effect number of Miles earned, it is NOT a 1:1 ratio.
- Just putting a single Pokemon in each box doesn't seem to increase Miles earned. Too bad :/

What I Plan to Try:

- Logging in several times a day to see if I earn Miles for each login the next day. you don't
- Completely filling more boxes (will take some time)

So what have other people been finding? Does anyone have a good chunk of their Bank boxes (50% or more) completely full? If so, how many Miles do you earn daily?

I'm a little doubtful that this will be a replacement for Battle Maison/Institute, but as a numbers guy, I really am curious to know the maximum daily rate of BP that can be earned from Pokemon Bank.

I will add key facts to this post if any more confirmed info is discovered.
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Old February 16th, 2014, 01:14 PM
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Finally!I wanted a thread like that.So i cant have 1 pokemon in each box and get points right?
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Old February 16th, 2014, 01:32 PM
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Correct. I had about 30 boxes with one pokemon in each, and still only got 1 Mile. In fact, I haven't managed to get more than 2 Miles in a day, and I'm not even sure how I managed that...
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Old February 16th, 2014, 03:06 PM
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Here's the data that I've gotten so far -
On the first day I deposited a bunch of breeding rejects into the bank.
Here are how many boxes and how many pokemon in each box

Box 1 - 28
Box 2 - 30
Box 3 - 18
Box 4 - 24
Box 5 - 23
Box 6 - 30
Box 7 - 19
Box 8 - 25

I left them alone, didn't even open Pokemon Bank for 10 days. When I logged in yesterday after 10 days, I had accumulated 64 Pokemiles/6 BP.
Today, I logged in again and was told I had earned 10 Pokemils/1 BP since yesterday.

I deposited a few more pokemon so now I have 10 boxes full with 30 pokemon each. I'll see how many BP I collect tomorrow.
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Old February 16th, 2014, 06:05 PM
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Not gonna lie Fana, I sat and stared at that info of yours for a good 15-20 minutes looking for a pattern in your data, and I think I have a fairly good working theory:

Just dividing 64 by 10 days gives 6.4 Miles/day, but since Miles are always whole numbers, how is the app using the decimal?

I believe the app is taking percentages for each Box, then adding those percentages. If the result is not a perfect integer, it simply rounds down (or possibly up?) to the nearest integer, but still stores that decimal.

This would explain why some days I got 2 Miles, but most days I just got 1.

This theory isn't perfect yet, though. For instance, taking the percentages of your 8 Boxes above, I added them up to be about 65.4 (slightly above 64).

Perhaps it takes some time for the server to register what actions the user performs on the first day or something, then settles out from there...
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Old February 16th, 2014, 09:34 PM
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Haha, I'm glad you were able to find some sort of pattern to it, because I'm just completely clueless.

The percentage theory is interesting and definitely sounds like it could be true.

It'll be interesting to see what can be confirmed as more people can supply more information. I'd certainly love to be able to rely on the bank to earn BP consistently instead of grinding at the Battle Maison.
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Old February 17th, 2014, 02:48 AM
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well I haven't check my Pokebank for several days until I checked it to deposit some of my well bred semi perfect pokes into there, this is all I've got:
so I have come to the conclusion, I've actually boxed the entire of my living pokedex (718 and breeding rejects in tutorial) into then left these in there.

so, do you guys have any idea about this?

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Old February 17th, 2014, 01:45 PM
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What do you use pokemiles for again?
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Old February 17th, 2014, 01:50 PM
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What do you use pokemiles for again?
You can use them to purchase things on the Pokemon Global Link, or from the guy in the Lumoise City Pokemon Center.
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Old February 17th, 2014, 02:08 PM
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You can use them to purchase things on the Pokemon Global Link, or from the guy in the Lumoise City Pokemon Center.
PokeMiles are almost worthless at this time, unless you really want to stock up on Moomoo Milk or something. Most of the rare items cost waaaay too much (even on PGL) to be worth paying for.

But the main draw with getting them in Bank, of course, is that you can convert them to BP, which offers a passive way of obtaining BP (as in, you literally don't have to do anything to get them).
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I've been wondering about this. Thanks for sharing the news!

I'm probably the only person who's been choosing to get Pokemiles than BP. While I was killing time until Pokebank came out, I spent it by beating the Maison enough times to purchase every viable item and TM with 550 BP to spare. Pokemiles can come in handy for getting PP Ups and Rare Candies.
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Old March 14th, 2014, 12:04 AM
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PokeMiles are almost worthless at this time, unless you really want to stock up on Moomoo Milk or something. Most of the rare items cost waaaay too much (even on PGL) to be worth paying for.

But the main draw with getting them in Bank, of course, is that you can convert them to BP, which offers a passive way of obtaining BP (as in, you literally don't have to do anything to get them).
Really? Moo Moo milk is the ONLY thing you can think of that's worthwhile? Not Full Heal, Not Max Potion, not Full Restore, Max Revive or even Heart Scale? NONE of that is worthwhile, JUST moo moo milk. Oh okay. ;-) And yes, PP Up is expensive, but it's absolutely worth it! 1,500 pokemiles (500 x 3) in order to permanently max the PP of a move? Yeah, That's ABSOLUTELY worth it. It's a LOT faster than any in game method.

Anyway, getting back to the point, I personally only save up to get Battle Points because I breed a lot of pokemon and wonder trade all the ones I don't want, so I rack up a lot of pokemiles very fast, the Battle Points will be the hard things to accumulate so I save up for those instead.
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I definitely cannot offer you anything just because there are SO MANY pokemon to consider, all I would ask is that when you are in the Friend Safari, breeding or in other places where you can catch pokemon with their hidden abilities that you get just one more extra to pass to me please. Natures, Ivs, egg moves, none of them are important, I'm only looking for pokemon with their hidden abilities and basically whatever spares you have laying around. Thank you very much!
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Old March 14th, 2014, 12:17 AM
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tnx for thread!
Was really helpfull, didn't know exactly how it work's now I do!
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Old March 18th, 2014, 10:44 AM
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Really? Moo Moo milk is the ONLY thing you can think of that's worthwhile? Not Full Heal, Not Max Potion, not Full Restore, Max Revive or even Heart Scale? NONE of that is worthwhile, JUST moo moo milk. Oh okay. ;-) And yes, PP Up is expensive, but it's absolutely worth it! 1,500 pokemiles (500 x 3) in order to permanently max the PP of a move? Yeah, That's ABSOLUTELY worth it. It's a LOT faster than any in game method.
PP Up could be worth it if you're a frequent wonder trader. I personally am not, and prefer using Pickup to get my PP Ups and Rare Candies. Speaking of Candies, those just aren't worth it in general (aside from IV checking purposes, for which you only need like 20), since leveling up is now extremely easy, and Lv100 is not mandatory for wifi. Heart Scales can be obtained from wild Luvdisc, and all the healing items can either be bought with money (which is also extremely easy to generate), or just not necessary post-game. The only reason I mention MooMoo Milk is because it can't be bought in bulk anywhere in-game, you can use them on most Lv30-60 mons (on the rare situation you DO need to heal) without it going to waste, and on top of that, it's cheap.

But yeah, I think we all agree on the main point: choose Battle Points, not Pokemiles! Even if you already think you have enough of everything from the Maison, you can always use spares so you're not constantly switching items all the time. For me, all it took was about 2 weeks of catching lots of Route 2 pokes while watching tv (about 2 hours a night) to fill up 71 Bank boxes. I may do a few more, but I wanna save room for breeding rejects too.
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