#free_pokemon Move

[Pichus]

If any other FP Operators or PC Staffs find my thread/post invalid or irrelevant, you are free to suggest and/or edit this post.

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Our NORMAL or HOME location is at irc.dejatoons.net
Our BACKUP location is at irc.rizon.net

Please note: people are encouraged to remain active, chatting and serving in both channels.

Dejatoons Main Channel Information:

We have decided to leave the channel opened upon /list. A few channel modes are also used here and there. Sometimes, we enable +G, which will censor most of the bad words, on the channel if the users on the channel start to swear a lot. We also have flood protection on the channel, which will kick the user if he/she types more than 4 lines within 5 seconds of time.

Rizon Backup Channel Information:

We have decided to set the channel as +s (secret channel - so that the channel will not appear on /list or /whois). But, I am considering to make the channel +R (only registered users can enter). If that consideration is made, please be sure to register yourself on Rizon. This way, the channel will be clean of bots.

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Who is the author of this thread? And, who are you?

I'm Pichus, an operator of Free_Pokemon (if you don't believe me, review the staff list on www.freepokemon.com). I've decided to make this into a FAQ section. I'm also the owner of pichus.com domain, a decent site developed for the pichu community, until one of the coadmins got tired of pichu, so I decided to kill the two years site. So, do not confuse me with any other pichu you might have acquainted with before.

Why did you create this thread?

Initially, we were in the process of moving the channel to irc.rizon.net. I did complete the job/relocation nicely within eight hours of time. As such, this thread did serve as an announcement as well as our reasonings for the moving. However, now this thread serves as a general FAQ of the questions, which I received from the users.

Who is the founder? What happen to the old founder?

Galvy had been the founder of free_pokemon for over four years. In the recent year, he has grown tired of Pokemon, thus deciding to move the channel away from dejatoons to a new network. In this decision, he was severely flamed by other operators, stating that fp shouldn't have moved no matter how badly the dejatoons operators had treated our fans and the founder. Recognizing those pointless debates and hypes, Galvy decided to abdiate his place as a founder and entrusted the channel to Limerick as the new founder. In summary, Galvy has left free_pokemon with a FAREWELL. (then, where is the farewell party?)

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Will #Free_Pokemon remain on the same network in the future?

#free_pokemon will remain on dejatoons as long as dejatoons is alive. Thus, the location of #free_pokemon should be very stable. As for Rizon, the channel will remain there as long as there are users. We will continue to devote ourselves to both channels.

Why did you first attempt to move the channel away from dejatoons?

Here are the reasons: dejatoons operators/admins do not like pokemon channels or users or pokemon itself, dejatoons operators had backstabbed Galvy (the old founder), and dejatoons prohibit sharing of mp3s as well as games.

Why did you pick rizon? And, why isn't Free_Pokemon on Rizon the main channel?

The reason is Pichus. Since Rizon allows content prohibitted on dejatoons, it might be a good place to serve as a backup channel and to serve our releases. Rizon also has many anime channels, in which the users can refer others to #free_pokemon quite easily. Since Rizon is so much bigger than dejatoons (around 20 folds), we do expect the network gets DOS, netsplits, and lagged a lot, thus making it unsuitable for our users in general. In addition, it's also required to put the channel in secret in order to stay on rizon flawlessly.

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Are you planning to have any other releases?

Yes, we are. We are currently releasing all of the DVD Rips of Pokemon English dubs, as well as Advanced Generation Japanese episodes. We are also not limited to releasing Pokemon games as well as Pokemon Sound Tracks on our backup channel.

Where are pichus' XDCC bots?

I have two xdcc bots -- FP|Kirara (unfirewalled, dedicated server) and FP|Pichu (firewalled, personal computer - edu connection) -- both located on irc.rizon.net. FP|Pichu will stay there for less than a year, serving pokemon episodes and dvdrips to our fans. FP|Kirara will basically serve our latest releases. Both bots generally have free send slots, and the FP xdcc bots on dejatoons generally do not. Therefore, it's best to stay on both networks to get your maximum throughput. However, do not request me (pichus) to upload anything to FP|Kirara, because I will most likely not approve it - unless it's one of the latest releases or it has something to do with pichu whom I adored.

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How do I register my nickname?

To register, you can use the following command:

/msg nickserv register your_password you@valid.email.address.com

where your_password is the password you use to "identify" your nickname on Rizon, and you@valid.email.address.com is your email address. However, do not give fake email addresses or type the email address wrong, because you will need to "confirm" the registration by going into your email. To confirm, it is usually like:

/msg nickserv confirm your_authorization_code

your_authorization_code is the authorization code given to you by Rizon sending to your valid email address (you@valid.email.address.com).

Finally, to identify your nick so that you can enter into +R channels, you can do the following:

/msg nickserv identify your_password
/identify your_password

for short.

[[[ I URGE YOU TO REGISTER YOUR NICKS ]]]

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If you have any other questions about this, please follow up in this thread, so that I can reply you or someone else can reply you when we have our chances to.

Enjoy #free_pokemon the #1 Pokemon IRC channel on the net!!!

[JDS]

Actually, this needs to be unstickied, as F_P is not moving to Rizon.

[Pichus]

Due to the requests of our WHINY OPS (particularly JDS and Sunain), we have decided to move back to dejatoons (irc.dejatoons.net). They had forced Galvy to abdicate his place as Founder to bestow the channel to Limerick. I find that they are talking over to the staff members, convincing the Galvy is no longer needed.

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In this edit, I am letting you to know that my bots are located on Rizon, since I despise dejatoons. So, if you want quick distributions, go to rizon.

[TSS_Killer]

Well technically both channels are still open...but we are leaning people back towards Dejatoons(I know some people hated rizon b/c of netsplits,chanserv probs,etc). The rule of thumb is the channel on Dejatoons is to be used as a main channel,and the one on Rizon as a backup...

heh,what a way to celebrate 200 posts..

[Limerick]

Ok, despite everything Pichus posted, most of which, afaik, is false, the channel on Rizon will REMAIN in full functional order. His mass kick of the channel was not authorized by any op, nor does it "reflect the opinion of the rest of FP staff" to use legal jargon. The topic had been authorized by both Edward_K and m, services admin on Rizon in #help as long as the channel remained +s, which it was, so his global kill of BRi7X who had not broken any server rules was uncalled for. I grant that he may not have known about permission having been granted, so that in and of itself is forgivable. Two, as policy, I have no plans of EVER demoting anyone unless they cause HARM to the channel, and Pichus is still on the access list on both channels, and as far as I can tell, always was. PPN and I are the only ones capable of adding SOP's, which Pichus still is. Granted, by the nature of services, it's hard to tell when Pichus was added and by whom, so maybe he was deleted at some point, but certainly not by me. Only actions such as that mass kick on Rizon would even cause me to CONSIDER demoting someone. Not contributing to the channel is insufficient for demotion, plus Pichus can hardly be called someone who didn't contribute anything; his bots provided quite a lot.

Part of my reasoning behind keeping Rizon open, despite pressure to close it, was to allow Pichus a place to remain. Chat would continue in both channels. And people were ACTIVELY encouraged to be in both. Pichus' troubles with the IRC Ops on Deja and Sunain and JDS's conflict with Pichus made me decide it would be good not to leave Deja as Pichus' only option. I also actively encouraged commentary from any staff member, including Pichus, on what could be done. Pichus was simply not active while I was awake, which left me little recourse on the matter as far as talking to him. The majority of staff wanted to move entirely to Deja with Rizon as a far distant backup due to prevalent netsplits on the server (me being the only one unbothered by the netsplits, figuring that if I stay on one of the more stable servers, I almost NEVER split off). Now this is quite a lengthy discussion, and I welcome ALL members of the community to respond to this. Is there anything I'm being unreasonable about? I thought I was being fair to all. I don't know where Pichus got the idea that the Rizon channel was closing.

* pichus changes topic to 'Do NOT SPAM; SPAMMING ON THE TOPIC NEXT TIME = AUTOKILL' <--- I was granted permission by m and EdK for a +s channel...

(%) you were kicked from [#free_pokemon] by [pich] (We already moved back to Dejatoons... if you can't follow our orders, then go back to the whiny staff members. (banned) #1657) <-- There were no such orders in place, and although I can allow that as SOP it is his authority to kick everyone, it is NOT in his authority to kick the founder, that again is abuse of his oline.

Now despite all that, I would have no problems if he wants to return to the Rizon channel, and have no real plans to pursue the oper abuse with higher ups if he doesn't continue it. And that goes with or without your bots, Pichus, this is not an issue of me wanting your bots, I'm trying to be fair to everyone involved, and can understand you were upset, particularly with the skewed idea you got somehow about what was going on.

* BRi7X changes topic to '(#Free_Pokemon) (www.freepokemon.com) Please join #free_pokemon on irc.dejatoons.net too! This is primarily a backup channel, but STAY HERE too. If you're not idling, try to keep your activity in Deja, but you can talk here too.' <-- Though I don't know how that wasn't clear that this channel was not closing...


Limerick
New Founder of #Free_Pokemon on Dejatoons AND Rizon

[Kyogre-chan]

What the ****?!

There's 8 guests looking at this thread! O.O;

But meh. Looks like FP's in more responsible hands now.

[TSS_Killer]

Even though I wasn't in the mass kick (I wrote these last two posts from school...no irc),I still think it was uncalled for. Limerick said it clear himself that BOTH channels will remain open(I'm guessing as an advantage for both rizon and dejatoons users so they don't have to switch networks,even though there are quite alot of users on both). But the main point is no channels are shutting down in the near future,its Limerick's decision and if he says that both channels will be open,they WILL be open,no questions asked.

[JDS]

Actually, it should be up to a majority of the staff as to what happens to either channel, but for now I guess both will be up.

Note, the whiny ops (Sunain and myself) never wanted to move to Rizon, especially since there was no good reason other than Pichus' and Galvy's dislike of the Opers at Dejatoons, who Sunain and I have never had problems with.

[bgt]

The opers at Deja never bothered me and also, having to leave your channel +s on Rizon is crap... but besides that... in some aspects, the move was ignorant... and plus I think deja is more suited for fp, but besides that... I guess both channels should stay open for now atleast for users that I guess don't want to connect to more than one network... even tho I think the rizon chan should be closed... having two chans up is kinda ignorant also... but if you dislike my beliefs... like always said... everyone has an opinion like an ***... you know what the stars are

[JDS]

If you didn't have anything better to say than that, why insist on posting?

[Pichus]

Well, there are several reasons here:

1. Dejatoons opers have issues against me, thinking that I am the cause of pokeriots.
2. Rizon always works better for me, since I am connected via my own server, and it has an up-time better than 99.9% albeit of the netsplits and lags caused by other hubs and servers and sometimes DOS. Naturally, I usually have very low ping-times between my connection and my server compared to mine on dejatoons servers.
3. There is nothing wrong with +s channel, since most of the users do come from this forum and searchirc and some other sites. SearchIRC can still propagate into the secret channels as long as they are submitted to the search engine.
4. It's also easier for me to invite from rizon. It's not like I can care more about spamming.

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Surely, you can see me as a selfish person, but it's not completely true; I am still putting my bots on rizon.

[bgt]

just a comment for #1. People think alot of things, doesn't mean they are right all of the time?... opinions are like asses... everyone has one.

[Limerick]

When Galvy gave FP to me, he made it clear that he intended to leave for good, but requested as part of the conditions, that I return the channel upon request. Due to operator conflict, Galvy has decided to take the channel back, and as per agreement, I gave it to him. I really hope this doesn't cause the power struggle I foresee, but with my lack of time over the next two weeks, I will be, at least temporarily, leaving FP simply because it is a major source of distraction, I am tired of the power struggles involved, and heck, my project which will take me 10 hours+ a day in addition to a full load of normal homework, is more important at this point. I'm happy to talk with anyone about this decision, and understandably, some people will be upset with my decision to honor my promise. I should have made some of these conditions placed on me clear in the past, maybe I didn't want to get talked out of the promise, maybe I internally didn't know how I would deal with it, even though I try always to keep any promises made. If you're upset with me, you have the right. I should have been more open about the exact conditions. As far as returning to FP, I am mostly uninvolved in the conflicts, having tried, up to this point unsuccessfully, to bring a truce between the operators involved. I don't know what's possible, and my policy was that I was the founder, not a dictator, all decisions were to be upheld, but my promise was uncompromisable. It feels like I'm always the negotiator, between Pergo and Galvy, Pergo and Sunain, and in this conflict, maybe I'm a failure, I don't know, but I've tried. I hope this all works out for the best, and I wish everyone the best. Feel free to respond, criticise, complain, etc. either here or in PM on IRC (Limerick and/or Limer). Don't expect an immediate response, and if it's urgent, PM both clients, as I don't always check both with equal consistency. Anyways, good luck to all of you, I only wish for the best for the channel in everything I do.

Limerick/Limer
irc.dejatoons.net (69.31.72.241)
irc.rizon.net (66.45.234.200)

Summary: Galvy is now once again the founder of Free_Pokemon; I'm sorry if this disappoints you, happy if this rejoices you; I hope FP comes out for the best in all of this, it's my only goal spurring my actions.

[Pichus]

I'll tell you the whole story, since apparently no one else can tell a better story than I can. The conflict actually occurred between Galvy/Pichus versus JDS/Sunain. Actually, Gavly wanted to move the channel away from dejatoons to rizon, but this action was opposed by a few operators (the conflicting ones), thereby forcing Galvy to give up FP. When Galvy decided to abdicate from FP, Pichus refused to quit from fp. As a result, this conflict becomes more of a JDS/Sunain/PPN[fp] all against pichus. After all, I did receive a few responses that pichus does not deserve to even get halfop because of his power abusing and having bad attitudes towards the operators that gives a channel a bad name. Pichus can't help with his attitude towards them if they don't really deserve it. An incident can be seen that JDS annoyed pichus by nagging him a few times (3-5 times) about Whiny ops that pichus once posted in this thread and the relocation of his xdcc bots from rizon to dejatoons. As one can see, it is not possible for him to be nice to them at all. As for power abusing, pichus has never abused his powers, such as kicking, banning, changing access, etc, etc, etc. If he truly enjoys to abuse his powers, his o:line on rizon as well as his channel operators/half-operators access on rizon would have gotten removed long before he came to fp. Certainly, pichus has never even insulted any users on fp. Thus, this has become a more of their invidious issues, rather than general channel issues, as it can be shown from the op polls fp has recently, in which pichus is in the lead. Because it was all three against one, pichus decides that it's the time to invite Galvy back in order to cease those conflicts. In doing so, some of the operators might quit from FP too, although I'm not quite sure what reasonings are behind of the contradictions though.

Some users might have commended Galvy's return, and some users prefer not to have Galvy. I personally prefer Galvy, because I do get pressurized by other operators, thinking that they can talk their ways out with Limerick. I think that's wrong, because they are using friendships to evade from further assessments. It will be better if they have never done that, so that we will never have to end up in this situation again. I had a talk with Limerick the other night, and he seemed to get pressurized by the operators asking to rid of me. I can't blame Limerick, but I felt sorry for him to take this kind of a responsibility for something he can't predict. Of course, those ops (the aforementioned three) would have never known what had happened, as they had never even wanted to talk with me privately.

On Limerick's behalf, I fully understand how you have projects to complete, as I also have a Thesis due very shortly. So, we won't be seeing each other for a while, I suppose. That talk with you really encourages me to stay on FP, because I realized that it's not only me who has the problem. Of course, you said that you personally do not prefer my course of actions on fp, which I agree with my sex talk. But, I just find it amusing to see those users' responses. I guess I should resign from this type of conversation any further, as I did receive a few responses from the users who said that isn't that pichus the scary guy - always talking about sex in a pokemon channel... Of course, I tend to listen to users more than the ops, since I prefer to be in the favor of the users. I believe that the users represent an irc channel rather than the operators, since the operators are the ones who maintain the channel whilst the users can make the channel more exciting. As for leechers asking for files to leech, I could care less for them - especially the impatient ones, since all they want are our releases and nothing else.

Well, I guess I'll see you in two weeks.

[Galvy]

OK, im back as FP founder since it seems u kiddos cant stop fighting... i dont care who started it.. its over
no more fights
im sick of this pichus vs jds/sunain ****
all of you grow up
you are all more than welcome... but if you feel like leaving do so... i want a peaceful channel

Thanks

Galvy, the all time founder.

[Amoblaz]

bla bla bla, do you think im going to read this all?

[TSS_Killer]

I really do think this is getting a little out of hand. I'm probably not gonna be in fp for a week or so,just untill this issue is somewhat settled and all is peaceful again. I'm doing this to get out of harms way. This is not a permenant goodbye,just a temporary one.
Hope you guys understand.

TSS_Killer

[Pichus]

If you want to leave, just leave here permanently; it's not like I will miss you. Things have no gotten out of control at all, trust me. :|