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Old May 22nd, 2014 (08:55 PM).
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I'm not participating, sadly. Chances of me winning are unlikely, but even if I do win, I wouldn't really like to visit E3. It would be fun and all, but I just don't want to put this much effort into visiting some place under hot whether like this. Plus, I also feel like spending my entire summer at home this time around. xD" Anyone else entering?
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I'm not participating, sadly. Chances of me winning are unlikely, but even if I do win, I wouldn't really like to visit E3. It would be fun and all, but I just don't want to put this much effort into visiting some place under hot whether like this. Plus, I also feel like spending my entire summer at home this time around. xD" Anyone else entering?
I want to enter for fun, but I don't think my parents would let me drive all the way to California if I won. Still, it would be an awesome experience.
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I know a next-door neighbor, who currently lives in San Diego, who is a real expert at playing Smash, Melee and Project M to be more specific. I'm not sure if he's among the players who's going to participate in the tournament though.


In other news, guess who's back to break some patterns:

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http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/ike.html

Chrom supporters will get no sympathy from him.
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What was your first Smash game?: Melee.

Melee is still easily the best one. Main Captain Falcon in that one. Donkey Kong in 64, Wario in Brawl and Diddy Kong in Project M. (because they ♥♥♥♥ed up Wario there.) I'd like to say I'm knowledgeable in the competitive aspects of Smash.

Also glad to see Ike back, hopefully they didn't just buff him in physical appearance. He was really bad in Brawl, needs a better recovery and actual safe and not so predictable moves.
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Really glad to see Ike again in the new games. I regret not using him as much in Brawl, because I leaned towards Marth. He's got a pretty powerful final smash! Apparently Marth might not be in the next one? :s It'd be a bummer but I can live. haha.
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Really glad to see Ike again in the new games. I regret not using him as much in Brawl, because I leaned towards Marth. He's got a pretty powerful final smash! Apparently Marth might not be in the next one? :s It'd be a bummer but I can live. haha.
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But he's in the game...since last November.

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There was so much rage over Marth when he was ¨announced¨ this time around, it was crazy. A person on twitter said it was a turn off because FE for the 3DS got released this year, so why couldn't they put newer characters in. The internet is a downer for party games, I swear
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I really don't know if they have this planned already, but it'd be great if they could include DLC content for these games. This way, they could always add-on new characters, stage sets, weapons, etc. If you ask me, this could satisfy a lot more people; those who'd like to play as certain character would have to pay an extra dollar or two, and those who don't could stay how they are and enjoy whatever they've got access to. =)
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Quote originally posted by Pikachu, Live On Stage!:
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There was so much rage over Marth when he was ¨announced¨ this time around, it was crazy. A person on twitter said it was a turn off because FE for the 3DS got released this year, so why couldn't they put newer characters in. The internet is a downer for party games, I swear
That's because these people believe relevancy and recency is the only thing that's important when adding characters into a crossover fighting game. Of course, this mindset was also why PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale was practically an inferior Smash Bros. due to the inclusion of new Dante over old Dante and Raiden over Snake. I'm glad Marth and Ike's return destroyed this whole relevancy nonsense, because it shows that Smash Bros.' only factors are importance and iconic influence.


Also, regarding DLC, Sakurai has already stated there are plans for DLC content, for they plan to release patches instead, in case a character is broken or if there's an exploitable bug.
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Quote originally posted by Pikachu, Live On Stage!:
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There was so much rage over Marth when he was ¨announced¨ this time around, it was crazy. A person on twitter said it was a turn off because FE for the 3DS got released this year, so why couldn't they put newer characters in. The internet is a downer for party games, I swear
What? Only people who were sad about Marth were Lucina fans. And you should never listen to Lucina fans.
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That's because these people believe relevancy and recency is the only thing that's important when adding characters into a crossover fighting game. Of course, this mindset was also why PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale was practically an inferior Smash Bros. due to the inclusion of new Dante over old Dante and Raiden over Snake. I'm glad Marth and Ike's return destroyed this whole relevancy nonsense, because it shows that Smash Bros.' only factors are importance and iconic influence.
Putting out Sheik out of the picture. (Since she's an established Smash character anyway) I think the relevancy argument DOES hold water.

People on the other will look for any example to dismiss this. They look at Ice Climbers and use them as an example. Or G&W. Or Captain Falcon. However, there's a very significant thing they're forgetting.


If it's an established and popular series today, then relevancy is an important factor. This is why I think K.Rool has no chance. The DK series today has no need for him, he's completely forgotten. If you want to rep a DK character, you'd want someone who make san appearance today, since the series is huge. It'd be a disservice to the series to practically use a dead character as a rep, instead of say, Dixie who is a major character in the last game, or even Cranky. There is a difference between Ice Climbers, main characters in a forgotten series, and K.Rool, forgotten character in a still universally popular series.

Like, ask yourself this. Who would your rather have? A main character from a forgotten series that could warrant a playable to represent Nintendo's overall history? Or a forgotten character in a series that is still going very strong today, and doesn't need said character at all? I think it's obvious which is more significant.
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Old May 29th, 2014 (07:04 AM).
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Putting out Sheik out of the picture. (Since she's an established Smash character anyway) I think the relevancy argument DOES hold water.

People on the other will look for any example to dismiss this. They look at Ice Climbers and use them as an example. Or G&W. Or Captain Falcon. However, there's a very significant thing they're forgetting.


If it's an established and popular series today, then relevancy is an important factor. This is why I think K.Rool has no chance. The DK series today has no need for him, he's completely forgotten. If you want to rep a DK character, you'd want someone who make san appearance today, since the series is huge. It'd be a disservice to the series to practically use a dead character as a rep, instead of say, Dixie who is a major character in the last game, or even Cranky. There is a difference between Ice Climbers, main characters in a forgotten series, and K.Rool, forgotten character in a still universally popular series.

Like, ask yourself this. Who would your rather have? A main character from a forgotten series that could warrant a playable to represent Nintendo's overall history? Or a forgotten character in a series that is still going very strong today, and doesn't need said character at all? I think it's obvious which is more significant.
From that logic, Ganondorf doesn't need to come back to Smash Bros. anymore, because, not counting the remakes, he hasn't made a recent appearance since Twilight Princess, only his alter ego, Ganon. Though to be fair, Ganon has made more appearances than his human form, making him much more iconic, not to mention being unique rather than a clone. But the question remains, will he use his classic look or his possessed Yuga form from ALBW (his TP look is too difficult to be made playable due to being quad pedal).

In terms of the latter from your question. If the forgotten character from a universally popular series has made more than one appearance, then yes, I would choose that character. Otherwise, I would pick a main character from a forgotten series, like Takamaru.
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Today Nintendo released a video about the Smashers and Commentators for the Smash Bros. Invitational which will be held at E3 this year:




Also, Nintendo revealed the Gamecube controller adapter for Wii U. It looks really nice!




Also, if we followed that reasoning then why would Little Mac be in the game? He hasn't made a major appearance since Fight Night Round 2 on the Nintendo Gamecube.
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Saw that yesterday. Hyped as HELL.

Pros:
-Solid roster of players
-But still, having aMSa, Hungrybox, DJNintendo, PPMD and Ken is ♥♥♥♥ing AMAZING
-Prog and D1 are the best commentators. Ever. Best news. Scar is great too!
-A character can't be used by two different player. Players have to pick their character and stick with it. This is a good draft because it adds variety.
-GAMECUBE CONTROLLER

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-Free for all with items on the first 3 rounds. Ughhh
-Limited selection of characters. Ughhhh
-Having 3 Peach mains (MacD, Peachyhime and Lilo) but no Peach. What?
-Having a player who is practically known for his Yoshi in aMSa but no Yoshi. What?
-Tiebreaker handled by fan favorite vote or something.

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-Geoff Keighley. WHAT
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From that logic, Ganondorf doesn't need to come back to Smash Bros. anymore, because, not counting the remakes, he hasn't made a recent appearance since Twilight Princess, only his alter ego, Ganon. Though to be fair, Ganon has made more appearances than his human form, making him much more iconic, not to mention being unique rather than a clone. But the question remains, will he use his classic look or his possessed Yuga form from ALBW (his TP look is too difficult to be made playable due to being quad pedal).

In terms of the latter from your question. If the forgotten character from a universally popular series has made more than one appearance, then yes, I would choose that character. Otherwise, I would pick a main character from a forgotten series, like Takamaru.
Ganondorf = Ganon. The only main games (as in developed by the Zelda team and directed by Aonuma, Skyward Sword aside) he didn't appear in are Skyward Sword and Majora's Mask. Ganon is synonymous with the Triforce. If the Triforce is involved, HE'S involved. He's just as important as the series' own triforce motif.

He is not comparable to K.Rool, who has no reason to come back like Ganon (the holder of the Power triforce.) Anyway, never, ever use characters in the existing roster to make your argument about relevancy. None of them are in the same situation as K.Rool, except for Sheik, who is a popular Smash character added when she was relevant already and thus no reason to cut. However, there is no reason to add K.Rool. Period.
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Also, if we followed that reasoning then why would Little Mac be in the game? He hasn't made a major appearance since Fight Night Round 2 on the Nintendo Gamecube.
Nevermind the fact you forgot this existed:


In what way is Lil Mac a forgotten character in a popular series? Did you read what I said? He's the main character in a niche series that IS important to Nintendo's history. Donkey Kong is important to Nintendo's history, but K.Rool unlike Diddy Kong is pretty much obscure as hell next to DK. Why do you want a character who is a nobody next to a huge universal mascot like DK? Wouldn't it be weird?

Think of it from a marketing standpoint. K.Rool won't draw anyone but the minority. He is not important enough, and unlike other forgotten character, he doesn't have his own games that are important to Nintendo's history. If he was in DKCR or Tropical Freeze, sure, but clearly Nintendo doesn't think K.Rool is needed at all.
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Unless you paly the game, Lil Mac really isn't that popular. Ice Climbers, which will probably be in Smash 4, haven't had a big game out in year. Neither has Ness or Lucas from the Earthbound series. Regardless, these are still fan favorites. Personally, I wouldn't like to see King K. Rool in Smash 4, but I would love to see a character like Raiden entering the game. Nostalgia is a big factor in marketing the game, but the game itself and its predecessors deliver enough nostalgia that this game will sell well.
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You're missing the point.

Didn't I say relevancy only matters to a really popular series? It doesn't apply to Ice Climbers because it's not, but it is historically important to Nintendo, which is why it warranted a character. K.Rool is only historically important to the DK series(historically being the key word here, since he's not important anymore), he actually has nothing to do with Nintendo. (He never appeared in a first party game.) Delivering the DKC nostalgia is done via Diddy, so K.Rool isn't necessary.

And for the love of god stop using existing characters as examples.

Also Punch Out is popular...what are you even talking about?
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I don't think Punch Out is that popular anymore, but maybe I'm wrong. And that's a matter of opinion. I don't think, but many could think King K. Rool is an integral part o Nintendo's history. That's simply a matter of opinion.

Lmao I don't even know why we're debating this. Neither of us want him in the game, I personally don't like the way he looks. xp
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Nintendo themselves don't think K.Rool is important. So yeah lol.
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Lol well that settles that. Moving on, who else would you like to see: returning and new characters?

I really want to see Jigglypuff, Ness, Captain Falcon, Wario, Snake, King DDD, Wold, ROB, Ganon and Mewtwo to make a return. I'd like to see someone like Raiden (a fast swordsman) to be added. Ghirahim from Zelda and Birdo should be added.
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I really want to see Jigglypuff, Ness, Captain Falcon, Wario, Snake, King DDD, Wold, ROB, Ganon and Mewtwo to make a return. I'd like to see someone like Raiden (a fast swordsman) to be added. Ghirahim from Zelda and Birdo should be added.
Jigglypuff and Mewtwo are sort of in a heated battle for the spot as our 5th Pokémon rep, since Mario and Zelda have 5 reps already (so sorry, no Ghirahim nor Birdo this installment). Also, Ghirahim is a one-time Zelda character like Midna and Skull Kid, both of whom are assist trophies, so he's never going to be playable to begin with. As for Raiden, there's been a rumor/leak going on that Pac-Man will be our third third-party character rather than Metal Gear rep, and since Sakurai has made a rule back in 2006 when Brawl was in development that up to 3 third-party characters allowed in the roster. Let's not forget that last year, Sakurai has also stated that a third-party character must be iconic to warrant spot. Raiden isn't as iconic as Snake, due to his rough start in MGS2.


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I don't think Punch Out is that popular anymore, but maybe I'm wrong. And that's a matter of opinion.
It's still a cult classic franchise; if it wasn't for Mike Tyson's involvement in the NES installment, the game wouldn't be as popular as it is now.
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Mewtwo really sucked at Melee so if he does show up I hope he gets more useful buffs and moves and such.

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Lol well that settles that. Moving on, who else would you like to see: returning and new characters?

I really want to see Jigglypuff, Ness, Captain Falcon, Wario, Snake, King DDD, Wold, ROB, Ganon and Mewtwo to make a return. I'd like to see someone like Raiden (a fast swordsman) to be added. Ghirahim from Zelda and Birdo should be added.
Yeah, DeDeDe would be very cool.


Hmm... :P
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My bad, I missed him on the official website. Geez, what would I do without you?

Today Nintendo revealed the Contest winner for the Smash Invitational. Check out his video entry: http://instagram.com/p/ogavUME0kK/
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Wasn't Raiden in Playstation's version of Brawl? (granted because of revengance hype)
I never gave mewtwo a shot when he first came around...I should have when I had the chance, I guess
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I always make sure to try out every character I've access to at least once, haha. This way, I wouldn't be regretting anything when trading the game in.
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