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Old November 18th, 2005 (5:10 AM).
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Okay, they havn't redone Battle Frontier, but noting that 4Kids changed these scenes in a way already in the Season 8 intro already, they may be changing the Advanced Battle intro...again! The TR scene has been redone, no Manyula and sudden scaring, and Dustox was added! If this makes the Dub intro, they will still remove Manene but at least he will get "replaced" by the final team member that the dub has.

Also, the tree scene with Mew and Rukario (also replaced in the dub, with the Iron Tail scene from PSM), has been replaced by a animated version of scenes from the boxart of the new Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon game, which got released the day it aired (yesterday)! How's that for promotion? I bet alot of people went to a game store after they saw that episode.

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Old November 18th, 2005 (8:36 AM).
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Wait... I'm confused... who changed what exactly?

Are you saying that 4Kids changed the scene with Manyula... or that the Japanese did? Because... there's a big difference there. And are you talking about 4Kids having to make a new opening... or the show in Japan?

And I thought that they always had that scene of Mew and Rukario in the tree included in the dub intro... *ish confused* o.o
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Old November 18th, 2005 (1:01 PM).
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I think the discussion is relative to AG 152. I believe that change in Battle Frontier is only temporary.
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Old November 18th, 2005 (1:07 PM).
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Oh so your thinking its just for the day of the release of Pokemon mysterious dungeon?

And um..does anybody happen to have to clip with them? - -;; *dies*
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Old November 18th, 2005 (1:29 PM).
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Angela shown me this rather interesting picture.
http://img104.imagevenue.com/img.php..._PMDScene6.jpg

I'm making guesses that it might not only not be temporary, but they'll be advertising the other games in promotion like this one.
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Old November 18th, 2005 (2:27 PM).
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Hm, just looks like a shiny Lizardon to me =/

Why is it so interesting? Do you think its a 4th generation or something?? *is curious*
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Old November 18th, 2005 (5:00 PM).
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All that would be from Pokmon Mysterious Dungeon, the new games for GBA and DS.
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Old November 18th, 2005 (6:50 PM).
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Check this out!

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Old November 19th, 2005 (6:31 AM).
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Ah I see! Okay.... It could just be a promotional thing, or it could be some odd precursor to someone getting a... *shudder* Charmander. I'm thinkin' it's pure promotion though. It's pretty obvious that it's intended to be like a scene from that game. They better not give anyone a Charmander just to promote a stinkin' game; I'm really tired of seeing all these popular pokemon that Ash has already had. Why can't someone just catch a Rhyhorn or a Chinchou??
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I find it tiring too that they bring back the original three and worst under the control of May. But what with the depressed May? She cry behind a tree and looks depressed. I not big May fan but it looks kinda unpokemon like. With everybody being sad and one member crying. Whats up?
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Old November 19th, 2005 (12:13 PM).
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Oooo... That May scene makes pokemon almost look... *gasp* MATURE! I'm going to see if I can find the RAW to download somewhere...

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For a cheap promo for Mysterious Dungeon, doesn't that seem tacky to insert that in the series opening so blithely? Especially since the other past openings never had this happen before. Considering from what I see of the spoilers, the Dungeon stuff doesn't seem to have anything to do with the current storylines, unless there is going to be a cheap sideplot for it? Wouldn't be the first time (Snap).

At least they picked an appropriate spot to cut. The Mew/Rukario scene is a gratutity anyway. Just a plug for the 8th movie.

And no, I don't know why May is weepy here but I guess her neurosis have finally caught up with her, I guess?
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Old November 19th, 2005 (7:23 PM).
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Neurosis? Isn't that a metally like illness. That is way to grown up for pokemon. But you got to say free pub is free pub. The black charizard is scary. Still, I am concern about May.
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Old November 20th, 2005 (7:25 AM).
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That Japanese Opening looks similar to the English opening of "Pokemon: Advanced Battle".....
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What do you think "Advanced Battle" has been basing itself off?
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Old November 20th, 2005 (12:24 PM).
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XD Yeah, its kinda obvious.

They took Battle frontier and the symphonic melody or whatever you call it and just cut and pasted it together lol X3
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So that's why they replaced a few scenes. At first I was like "Huh?! *rubs his eyes*" Since I don't keep up with the games, I didn't had no idea what was going on.
As for May crying during the opening, it is to make the visuals match the lyrics, if I'm not mistaken. I believe a part of the lyrics goes like "...the smiling face with a few tears..." in that scene. Though you might want to double check this with someone who can speak fluent Japanese.

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Old November 20th, 2005 (4:55 PM).
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Yeah, getting rather off topicness with May's weepiness. Although at least Unown gives a logical explanation for the crying. Although given the peppy song, it's a little weird to talk about crying and things, isn't that what the past two openings are for? Like the last one? Eh.

At least Gengar and his group carry a nice note of ominous dread to it, as Gengar should have. T-Tar on the other hand, have the obvious dread of DOOM.

Either way, can't wait for the end of this odd promotion and get back at track.
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