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Old January 2nd, 2007, 03:05 PM
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OMG!! Next week?! Call me a slow player all you want, but I downloaded this two weeks ago, and I'm still only at the 3rd gym leader!! NOOOO!!! By the way, do you think it would work to patch B3 onto the patched B2? It's pretty great that you're moving so fast, but I can hardly keep up, lol! :D

Sweet, so we can trade? I don't care about Union room, just as long as trading works!
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Old January 2nd, 2007, 03:09 PM
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woah cool b3 comin out sooon i expected it to take a little longer but zel your awesome at hacking so i was wrong
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Old January 2nd, 2007, 05:31 PM
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And here comes number three. You've been making excellent progress for sure with Shiny Gold zel. And the pirates who's selling your hack should be ashamed. No kidding, shame on you! I look forward to yet another beta from you bud. Take it easy.
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Old January 2nd, 2007, 06:48 PM
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Well, I haven't tried to use the Link to test it... And... I think trading pokes caught in a hack wouldn't be like coughcheatingcough...?
And you are right 'bout the "jaja, jeje, jojo". There are a few things I can't get rid of, jojo!



It depends... If I have too many ideas, the scripting could take longer (specially when Kanto's gonna be filled with a few new rivals, and those two...)



Of course. Only the things after the Ice cave (included) won't be in B3.



Yes, TR is crap... Fortunately I'll give'em better lineups for the Hard Version.
And... Not sure yet about when to give the player the GS-Ball. (Razmaster, I still have your idea in my mind!)



The problem is that it would be strange. And, I have killed his sprite to make Silver, I think I told you this before. It's pointless to lose a sprite for a small cameo. Sorry, but still, no.



I'm not a too democratic person, lol
If there's something that I really feel needs to be consulted, I'd do, though.
But you're right 'bout the poll. I'm gonna ask to delete it.



Definitely not my sense of humor. Even though it may seem strange, you are not the first person that tells me this (Mr.Snrub told me by PM before).
Well... I have searched the texts using A-Text, and I didn't found such string. So, I guess there's something rare in your rom (perhaps an old patch?, or a bad dump?)



B3 luckily will have the following screen, right at the beginning, jaja! that is my sense of humor...

I found this string XD

Go look for the words 'so fat' in Advance-Text. The first result should be something like this:

Your Mum is so fat she eats

children for breakfast and
lunch.

and the offset should be 4283391.

If you don't believe me :D

Anyways, besides that humorous comment, I hope you good luck on your Beta 3. Not that I can say much.
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Old January 2nd, 2007, 07:57 PM
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So... I went to that offset in my Hex-Editor, and this I found on my ROM...



At least we know that it relates to the Corruption of the Save File (which should happen if you don't use the Flash 128K thing, as far as I remember...). But why does it say other thing to other people... XD??????????

See as there are also the other weird messages close by? Perhaps the guy who dumped some roms had an evil sense of humor and edited the messages. JAJAJAJAJA!!! XD!!!
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Old January 2nd, 2007, 07:59 PM
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AGH!! It's programming!! Is that literally what you have to type? Well, it'd be worth it to create the pokemon game of my dreams.
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Old January 2nd, 2007, 08:04 PM
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If Zel really gonna include that foreword in the beginning of the game? I guess it seems okay, but I think it would be odd having that forewood in the final completed release of SG. You do what you like.

It will be nice to re-explore Tin Tower...just hope the path to the top isn't too complex. I mean, I did get lost and spend time trying to get through Tin Tower. Well it's not like it's wrong, but it could annoy some players. Oh well...a little change won't hurt. I'll get over it.

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AGH!! It's programming!! Is that literally what you have to type? Well, it'd be worth it to create the pokemon game of my dreams.
Man, who knew hacking would be so complex?! I guess you really have to put effort and know about these sort of things to be able to create a good hack...I gotta learn how to do so. No doubt Zel's got skill...let's hope he knows what he's doing (well obviously he does). :D
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Old January 2nd, 2007, 09:17 PM
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So... I went to that offset in my Hex-Editor, and this I found on my ROM...

At least we know that it relates to the Corruption of the Save File (which should happen if you don't use the Flash 128K thing, as far as I remember...). But why does it say other thing to other people... XD??????????

See as there are also the other weird messages close by? Perhaps the guy who dumped some roms had an evil sense of humor and edited the messages. JAJAJAJAJA!!! XD!!!
wow i guess you cant trust people to give you a clean dump huh? Besides on text capabilities, zel do you use actual ASM hacking or do you use an app to do your amazing graphics.
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Old January 3rd, 2007, 06:28 AM
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Okay well its good to know that there's an actual offset for that common dis at the beggining of the FR rom, I've got it too and I searched it up on A-Text (Advance-Text) and found no results, so I'll use that offset and erase it... Or change it to something more humorous:D
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Old January 3rd, 2007, 09:01 AM
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Wow this hack is really good i love it :D. You have to add kanto region
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Old January 3rd, 2007, 11:49 AM
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Hey, good hack, Zel! Keep up the good work! Your hack's not just awesome, but it's way way way better than any other remake of Pokemon Gold and Silver! I mean, man, I thought remaking Gold with Pokemon FireRed would be almost impossible, but, boy, do you make it look easy!

Oh, yes, and like Pokemon FireRed and Pokemon LeafGreen, make sure you do add a few houses and few extra people in the towns and cities. And try to lengthen or slighty change some of the stuff the townspeople say. Because the people in FireRed and LeafGreen do say exactly the same stuff that the people in Pokemon Red and Blue do, but only with a slight difference in words or something else. Also you should try and make it so that the guy in the breeding center gives you a random egg, which can hatch into either Pichu or Elekid! I know, that kind of egg is only in Crystal version, and you're remaking Gold, but still, PLEASE remake that feature! Or, at least make Pikachu available in Johto early. It won't hurt, there are wild Gyarados in Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen, although there weren't any in Pokemon Red or Blue. It would instead be a nice touch and cheer up lots of Pikachu fans.

By the way, if you're remaking the Tin Tower as well as the Whirl Islands completely instead of remaking the old maps, then I'm expecting lots of trouble! It was quite difficult to get through both dungeons, although I did get through the Whirl Islands myself. I got through the Tin Tower with the help of a walkthrough.

And maybe you could think of changing the gym leaders' Pokemon's levels and also changing other miscellaneous trainers' Pokemon's levels as well. You should also try to make it possible to get elemental stones like Fire Stones and Thunder Stones early in the game and available for buying in the Goldenrod PokeMart. You could instead, however, invent some small little 'Stone Shop' in Ecruteak or Cianwood where you can buy almost all stones, except for the Sun Stones. You could also make the Moon Stones available, but at a quite high price, noting the Clefairy ceremony in Gold, Silver and Crystal. And spruce up the gyms a little with a few more trainers, and make the Kanto gym leaders stronger, with Hoenn Pokemon.

And if you say that you can get all Pokemon in this game, how would you get Mewtwo, Articuno, Zapdos or Moltres? They're not available in GSC.

But anyways, I wish you very good luck and happiness in finishing your hack. Your hack deserves, and will always deserve to be the King of all hacks. I have never ever seen a better hack before. And please take my advice, it might be essential in your road to completing Pokemon Shiny Gold, the ultimate remake of Pokemon Gold Version!!!

By the way, sorry if I talked too much. I was only trying to help you.
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Old January 3rd, 2007, 03:46 PM
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1. Well, if you jump back a couple pages, he's said a couple times that he will release two versions; One that is a complete remake, and then another, harder remake.

2. He'd probably just not edit where they are. I don't know, but all 386 will be included.
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Old January 3rd, 2007, 04:09 PM
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And if you say that you can get all Pokemon in this game, how would you get Mewtwo, Articuno, Zapdos or Moltres? They're not available in GSC
You can get those ldgendaries in GSC by going to Kanto... which will be in Shiny gold.
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Old January 3rd, 2007, 04:42 PM
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You can get those ldgendaries in GSC by going to Kanto... which will be in Shiny gold.
actually mewtwo and the original 3 legendary birds aren't available in gsc but zel said all the pokemon would be obtainable in the hack so i'm guessing they'll be in sg
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Old January 3rd, 2007, 06:25 PM
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I love it! Good luck with everything!
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Old January 3rd, 2007, 07:59 PM
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If Zel really gonna include that foreword in the beginning of the game? I guess it seems okay, but I think it would be odd having that forewood in the final completed release of SG. You do what you like.

It will be nice to re-explore Tin Tower...just hope the path to the top isn't too complex. I mean, I did get lost and spend time trying to get through Tin Tower. Well it's not like it's wrong, but it could annoy some players. Oh well...a little change won't hurt. I'll get over it.

Man, who knew hacking would be so complex?! I guess you really have to put effort and know about these sort of things to be able to create a good hack...I gotta learn how to do so. No doubt Zel's got skill...let's hope he knows what he's doing (well obviously he does). :D
Foreword-Why not having it also in the final version? It could scare some people?
Tin Tower-Well, I don't think it's too complex... That is only if you don't aim to get the items...
Hacking Complex?-Don't get scared... An Hex-Editor is the tool I use mainly for when I'm searching for free space for my scripts, or when I need to fix stuff from my scripts (because I tend to make my scripts so compact that they overwrite themselves XP). Of course, there's some more complicated stuff that I do with it... I'm sure some other people, like the Gold hackers use it a lot more than I...

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zel do you use actual ASM hacking or do you use an app to do your amazing graphics.
Huh? ASM? That's some freaking hard stuff to do, from what I've read.
To do my graphics? For now I'm mainly revamping stuff from Gold, and using AdvanceMap to insert tiles...

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Oh, yes, and like Pokemon FireRed and Pokemon LeafGreen, make sure you do add a few houses and few extra people in the towns and cities. And try to lengthen or slighty change some of the stuff the townspeople say. Because the people in FireRed and LeafGreen do say exactly the same stuff that the people in Pokemon Red and Blue do, but only with a slight difference in words or something else. Also you should try and make it so that the guy in the breeding center gives you a random egg, which can hatch into either Pichu or Elekid! I know, that kind of egg is only in Crystal version, and you're remaking Gold, but still, PLEASE remake that feature! Or, at least make Pikachu available in Johto early. It won't hurt, there are wild Gyarados in Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen, although there weren't any in Pokemon Red or Blue. It would instead be a nice touch and cheer up lots of Pikachu fans.

By the way, if you're remaking the Tin Tower as well as the Whirl Islands completely instead of remaking the old maps, then I'm expecting lots of trouble! It was quite difficult to get through both dungeons, although I did get through the Whirl Islands myself. I got through the Tin Tower with the help of a walkthrough.

And maybe you could think of changing the gym leaders' Pokemon's levels and also changing other miscellaneous trainers' Pokemon's levels as well. You should also try to make it possible to get elemental stones like Fire Stones and Thunder Stones early in the game and available for buying in the Goldenrod PokeMart. You could instead, however, invent some small little 'Stone Shop' in Ecruteak or Cianwood where you can buy almost all stones, except for the Sun Stones. You could also make the Moon Stones available, but at a quite high price, noting the Clefairy ceremony in Gold, Silver and Crystal. And spruce up the gyms a little with a few more trainers, and make the Kanto gym leaders stronger, with Hoenn Pokemon.

And if you say that you can get all Pokemon in this game, how would you get Mewtwo, Articuno, Zapdos or Moltres? They're not available in GSC.
lol... What a long post with lots of stuff...

Well... Fortunately my answer will be quite short. For now, I'm just mainly remaking the original game, adding a few things I want. Don't think I'm gonna make things as Nintendo would, because, after all, they're a lot of people, and... I'm just doing this for hobby...

I will think about an event to give that yellow rat, and I'll hide it very carefully... But you'll have to wait, since I've finished the patch, and I'll start to play to test and take screenshots...

But, I'll do that tomorrow...
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Old January 3rd, 2007, 08:28 PM
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Test away buddy. Beta 3 is coming, YAY! Man I can't wait to see what surprises you put in it. You always got some nice little extras. Luck with it bud, I await patiently zel. Man I wish I had something to ask, but....nothing.
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Old January 3rd, 2007, 10:50 PM
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wow zel, the work you did on this, absolutely amazing, i never thought you had to go through all that. Here is the reason...

i tried some map revamping myself on Cinnaber Island to experince it myself... i thought it should look like this in your hack(When you get to Kanto of course). i actually had FUN doing this changing around the map stuff

absolutely 1337

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Old January 3rd, 2007, 10:58 PM
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That looks really authentic shuriken. Except that the rival sprite is supposed to be different it looks really good
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Old January 3rd, 2007, 11:03 PM
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hmmm... i can't enter the light tower ( the tower near light gym ) . i can't understand why . plz share new ips patch fixed that bug .
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Old January 3rd, 2007, 11:03 PM
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actually mewtwo and the original 3 legendary birds aren't available in gsc but zel said all the pokemon would be obtainable in the hack so i'm guessing they'll be in sg
wow i must have been high when i got them then... i mut have traded from my blu version... oh yeah now i remember! i especially remember trying to uber my mewtwo in red version.... sorry for the post then

Iv'e Tried hacking myself and it never turns out as i originally imagined... because of my stupid text editor and scripter.... but i can map pretty well XD

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Hacking Complex?-Don't get scared... An Hex-Editor is the tool I use mainly for when I'm searching for free space for my scripts, or when I need to fix stuff from my scripts (because I tend to make my scripts so compact that they overwrite themselves XP). Of course, there's some more complicated stuff that I do with it... I'm sure some other people, like the Gold hackers use it a lot more than I...
I get the same problem... Zel do you use Thingy32 for the hex editing? ive always had problems with that
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Old January 3rd, 2007, 11:07 PM
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wow i must have been high when i got them then... i mut have traded from my blu version... oh yeah now i remember! i especially remember trying to uber my mewtwo in red version.... sorry for the post then
Don't worry about it. Everyone has their mistakes

Like me. I used to think Mewtwo could be found in Mt. Silver :D I even thought I was playing the game and caught him.

Then, it turned out to be a dream. :D:D:D:D

Anyways, if there are special extras, I'll love to play the third hack (love = not love love, figure of speech XD)

Pah, I'm not good at saying anything else.

Although, I did have a hunch that Your Mum thing had to do with the Save Error...
Are you sure it's not one of your jokes XD

Good luck, and don't get mad at the people who love to post stoopid glitches XD

EDIT: Just noticed something: This thread is probably the most viewed and posted in the Hacks Section :D. Sweet!
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Old January 4th, 2007, 12:47 AM
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this hack is amazing, it looks like Nintendo did it...
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Old January 4th, 2007, 07:01 AM
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Test away buddy. Beta 3 is coming, YAY! Man I can't wait to see what surprises you put in it. You always got some nice little extras. Luck with it bud, I await patiently zel. Man I wish I had something to ask, but....nothing.
It also happens to me... in your hack, jaja!

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Anyways, if there are special extras, I'll love to play the third hack (love = not love love, figure of speech XD)

Pah, I'm not good at saying anything else.

Although, I did have a hunch that Your Mum thing had to do with the Save Error...
Are you sure it's not one of your jokes XD

Good luck, and don't get mad at the people who love to post stoopid glitches XD

EDIT: Just noticed something: This thread is probably the most viewed and posted in the Hacks Section :D. Sweet!
No, my jokes are far better... When I'm motivated... But you'll soon see... XD

I don't think there are too many extras, besides the new trainers, and... Pikachu... Yes I put the rat in B3, you'll have to find it! (Just don't spoil it later!). I'll only say it is not too early, nor too late...

And... I think you are wrong, so far Jeremy's Ice is the most viewed, but otherwise this is the thread with the most posts, the most rated (which also means that having a 4.39 with 38 votes is not an easy thing...), and the second most viewed (right behind Ice, but... jeje... I'm gonna catch him )

Sorry for that... Well, as I am modifying levels and stuff for the Hard Version of Shiny Gold (which I'll just call "Shiny Gold X"), I'm taking screenshots. Most likely, tomorrow I'll start posting something more interesting... So please wait until then! See ya!
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Old January 4th, 2007, 04:51 PM
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You mean that same rat that sent all of the world into an eternal chaos of heck?!
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