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NekoRobin
September 30th, 2007, 10:03 AM
Well I'm probably gonna transfer my pokemons from LG to Diamond someday.
And I have a question..
Where is move forgotor in LG? Is there one? If there isn't then I guess i'll put some pointless tm moves on my pokemons, and replace them with hm moves they had when in Diamond.

Ivysaur
September 30th, 2007, 10:07 AM
Yes, there is one in Fuchsia near the Gym.

DanKiba8
September 30th, 2007, 1:00 PM
fucshia city right net to the poke center

Vuallum
September 30th, 2007, 7:10 PM
If there isn't then I guess i'll put some pointless tm moves on my pokemons, and replace them with hm moves they had when in Diamond.

Without the move deleter that wouldn't work, HM moves are only deletable by the move deleters (Lilycove City for R/S/E, Fuchsia City in FR/LG)

Anti
September 30th, 2007, 8:30 PM
Wait, I've become a bit confused...anyways, HM moves are useless, except Surf, and waterfall in D/P. Not the TMs, or did I read that wrong? And yes, fuschia city is the place for the move deleter.

NekoRobin
October 3rd, 2007, 8:55 AM
Wait, I've become a bit confused...anyways, HM moves are useless, except Surf, and waterfall in D/P. Not the TMs, or did I read that wrong? And yes, fuschia city is the place for the move deleter.

Fly is useful..Kinda..
<.<

Improfane
October 3rd, 2007, 11:11 AM
NekoRobin, most HM moves are weak in battling. Fly takes two turns, has only 90 power and is 95% accurate (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Fly). Compare this to moves like Thunderbolt (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Thunderbolt) and Body Slam (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Body_Slam_(move)) with 99.999% or so accuracy, 95 and 85 power respectively, in addition to status effects. In the time it takes to fly, you can do 85/95 power twice in a row (providing you don't miss or your enemy flies himself). I don't think APC13 denies the usefulness of HMs, only the effectiveness in battle.

Milke
October 27th, 2007, 11:35 AM
Yeah, but fly also makes the enemy miss on that turn ,so it's not completely useless. But...Flying pokemon get killed if they use thunder or thunderbolt....

JX Valentine
October 27th, 2007, 12:05 PM
Yeah, but fly also makes the enemy miss on that turn ,so it's not completely useless. But...Flying pokemon get killed if they use thunder or thunderbolt....

Or if the opponent switches out in the meantime, resists the blow, and laughs at you with Rock Slide.

Against the computer, I'll have to agree with the lack of efficiency. I'd rather be wasting the enemy as quickly as possible, rather than using a move that actually does less damage in those two turns than the 95 BP move I'm using instead. That is, if you think about it, you're using two turns to use Fly. With 90 BP, that figures out to about 45 BP per turn, which makes it a little like using Rock Throw (BP of 50) twice, rather than just a BP 90 move. The battle thus lasts longer, even though there's the evasion factor. In most cases, though, you could probably take the hit and deal out a hard hit of your own (or, alternatively, deal out an OHKO), rather than having to evade for a turn and get hit anyway after your Pokemon comes down if you can't get your opponent to faint. This also proves dangerous if your Pokemon is under a status effect and can't use the evasion turn because it can't move/hits itself in confusion/is attracted to the opponent/is being eaten from the inside out by a curse/poison/burn.

In other words, the move isn't particularly useful.

Back on topic, yes, Fuchsia City, next to the Pokemon Center.