View Full Version : Would you die for your flag?

August 27th, 2012, 7:46 AM
Broad question, but I think it needs it. It's kind of pretty much asking how much do you value your flag and how far would you go to protect it, and the image it holds/means to you. Share your thoughts!

Actually, on the side, how much do you value your flag? To what extent?

August 27th, 2012, 7:56 AM
The actual flag? Well, I respect it, and I'll be pretty upset if someone tried to burn it or destroy it for no good reason. But I won't put my body on the line for a flag. That's a little dumb, in my opinion, no offence to anyone. I get patriotism, but if I wanted to die for my country, I'd die for it in a war, not protecting a flag. Flags can be remade. People can't.

Edit: I feel like I took this too literally. If we're talking about country wise, yes. Because I love my country.

August 27th, 2012, 7:56 AM
At first when I saw this question I thought it was gonna mean would you die for your territory or something or gang related lol. But good thing it wasnt. I don't have anything I would die for. Especially with the govt. controlling the "flag" IMO the flag doesn't mean anything to the govt anymore. But if terrorist or something came over then ya but other than that I wouldn't "die" for it.

August 27th, 2012, 7:58 AM
I am happy I live in a place that has all the benefits and freedoms that it does, but I would never ever die for my country. I'm not patriotic at all. I rather just move to a different country if there was a war.

August 27th, 2012, 11:08 AM
Erm..assuming fighting for the flag represents fighting for your country?

I value the flag as a symbol to my origin. How much I value it is the problem. I don't think I would consider fighting for that flag or 'die' defending it for any reason. I'm not patriotic in that particular sense.

August 27th, 2012, 11:25 AM

If I was defending a flag, nope. I'm a bit of a pyromaniac anyways so watching something burn is pretty awesome to me.

For war? Nah, I'm a huge pussy anyways so that's not an option for me.

And how do I value the flag? Anoyyyyyying as hell.

August 27th, 2012, 11:41 AM
Lol no I'm not patriotic in any way so I wouldn't die for my flag.

August 27th, 2012, 11:44 AM
I don't value the flag of my country much at all. It's simply a representation of my country rather than its actual entity, a symbolic one at that. So I would not choose to die for my flag.

August 27th, 2012, 11:55 AM
A flag is just a representation of a country, and a country is just an embodiment (theoretically) of good values and ideals. I care about the ideals and values, not the country and certainly not the flag. No way I'm going to die for anything but my own ideals, and even then I'm not keen on dying at all.

August 27th, 2012, 12:53 PM
Lol no I'm not patriotic in any way so I wouldn't die for my flag.

Pretty much this. The longer I'm alive the less pride I have in my country honestly.

Golurks Were Meant to Fly
August 27th, 2012, 1:17 PM
Hmm... I guess it depends which one? :O

Actually, scratch that, no way am I dieing for America or Canada. Sorry.

Pretty much this. The longer I'm alive the less pride I have in my country honestly.

That's the grim truth of being American (jk. somewhat.)

August 27th, 2012, 1:30 PM
Nah, I'm not at all patriotic. If there was a situation where I had to fight for my country then I wouldn't be able to kill another person, let alone be willing to let myself die, just to protect the flag.

August 27th, 2012, 1:50 PM
I doubt I could die for anything that didn't lie inside my immediate interests/my heart. My country is not one of those things.

au bon
August 27th, 2012, 3:29 PM
Absolutely not. I'm sure I seem selfish for saying this, especially given that there are plenty worse countries to live, but I don't like this country and would never risk my life for it. I'm the least patriotic person I know.

August 27th, 2012, 3:43 PM
Absolutely not. I'm sure I seem selfish for saying this, especially given that there are plenty worse countries to live, but I don't like this country and would never risk my life for it. I'm the least patriotic person I know.

Pretty much this. The longer I'm alive the less pride I have in my country honestly.

Both of the above statements define me to a T. I couldn't care less about the Great American Corporatocracy. When corporations became people and could "donate" large sums of money to political campaigns and politicians to create policy, I lost all faith in the government. By the way, I have a BA in Political Science.

Shining Raichu
August 27th, 2012, 5:56 PM
I'm not at all patriotic, and furthermore, patriotism (toward any country) bothers me. I can't stand people who say "I'm proud to be Australian/American/French/whatever" and immediately want to smack them in the mouth and scream "WHERE'S YOUR PRIDE NOW, *****?"

*ahem* I'm sorry you had to see that.

No, I wouldn't die for my flag. Anybody who would is a fool lol.

August 27th, 2012, 6:06 PM
I respect the flag. I will not damage the flag.

But I'm not going to die for it either. It represents something greater, but it is just cloth

August 27th, 2012, 7:54 PM
Eeeeeeh. I'm not willing to die for anyone, much less the US, and even less so for the actual flag. The US is okay but it's never worth my life.

I really don't care for flags themselves. They're just... flags. To me they're not important. *shrugs*

August 27th, 2012, 9:13 PM
I have this fantasy in my head that if I were ever in a moment where I'd have to choose, I'd go all samurai crazy style and die defending my flag. Any flag represents all of the people for which it flies, regardless of what they're like. To not take a stand defending it would mean I'm a soul-less monster with no sense of community.

Granted, you didn't state a specific flag, just a flag that I claim as my own. If it were someone else's flag, I wouldn't feel as devoted without a good reason.

August 27th, 2012, 9:57 PM
My legit initial reaction was out loud "Are you serious?" in a wtf are you crazy sort of tone. So yeah... I'm not very patriotic. lol

August 28th, 2012, 12:15 AM
A flag is a piece of cloth. If anything, I'd die for the ideals that some of them try to represent, but not for a particular country, not even mine. [/european federalist here]

Of course we all have our moments of flag-waving in particular celebrations but I take it as a guilty pleasure, to be honest. I think that, the less flags and things we have to separate and fight against each other to see "who's better", the best for all humanity.

August 28th, 2012, 1:47 AM
UHH Die for a flag not even in my dreams I respect all flags of all countries and will never vandalise them but die for one is like ...... yeah nuthin :\ Nationalism I do not believe in I am no patriot just a citizen wanting to live a life of peace.

Kikaito plush
August 28th, 2012, 2:04 AM
I would not die for my flag not that I'm not proud to be from my country, but I'm not dieing
for the UK.

August 28th, 2012, 7:08 AM
I'm not a patriotic people. I can't stand patriotism. That's a good thing to like your own country, and to defend it but some people can go too far. It's stupid.
So, no, I wouldn't die for my flag. I see no reason in sacrificing myself for any country I could have been born in.

Liliana Vess
August 28th, 2012, 8:07 AM
It would depend on the circumstance for me. If it was something like world war two and there was a risk that the country could be taken over and have another cultures beliefs pushed upon us then yes I would probably like to help out and do something about it because I like living here and I like the way things are run now. But if it was just something as stupid as a flag burning or disrespecting a part of the countries values and such I would be angry about it but I wouldn't do anything stupid because of it.

August 28th, 2012, 9:44 AM
I don't HATE my country, but I'm not in love with it either. So, no. I would definitely not die for my flag.

August 28th, 2012, 6:40 PM
If you literally mean the flag, no. I don't appreciate people defacing them but it's a piece of fabric and nothing more, in the end.

If you mean for my country, possibly. I'd have to really, really believe that my country was doing the right thing in order to defend it so unconditionally. This is such a hypothetical situation because there's no way I'd ever be in a situation like this (if I wanted to join the army or something one day, I'd almost definitely be denied for health reasons so I'd only be a clerk or something lol), so it's kind of hard for me to conceive of it. I like to think I'd help out and volunteer myself if things were drastic enough that Canada needed to enter a war (or whatever) representing itself instead of just giving aid to another nation's war or doing peacekeeping, like WWIII or something but that's seriously weird to wrap my head around. In short, my gut answer to this question is "yes" but I can't think of a situation I'd ever be in where the yes would be qualified haha.

Twilight Sky
August 29th, 2012, 4:21 AM
Not really. Like most others said, a flag is just a piece of cloth, and in the end, I'm not really that patriotic towards my country anyway, sad to say.

August 29th, 2012, 5:33 PM
I would die for the protection and sovereignty of my country, but I will not die for the politicians running this country.

August 30th, 2012, 7:17 AM
I would not die for my flag not that I'm not proud to be from my country, but I'm not dieing
for the UK.

I couldn't have put it into better words myself. I absolutely hate the UK in general, but I don't hate my country that much. I wouldn't die for my country, but there is no way in hell that I'm gonna die for the UK.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™
September 4th, 2012, 10:49 PM
As much as I like living in this country (easy access to the stuff I want) the bigwigs at the top have screwed up my country so royally that it's impossible for me in good faith to make that sort of sacrifice.

I'm adopted from another country anyway :P

September 8th, 2012, 6:19 AM
I would only die for myself and the people i believe are worth dieing for.
I hope everyone else can say the same.

September 8th, 2012, 7:11 AM
Nope. Not at all.

The bald eagle can suck it.

September 13th, 2012, 12:31 PM
well at the moment the flag is pretty messed up i would more likely take the good parts of the flag and start a new one on a deserted island

besides you don't want to end up like mega man

September 14th, 2012, 11:55 AM
i'm patriotic* but HELL NO! the flag has been changed 26 times and might change again (if Puerto Rico becomes a state)
* Love my country hates the government, and the racist south