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# I don't waaaannnntt tooooo

Posted September 18th, 2012 at 5:27 PM by Nina

Problem 82/114 for this week's homework

I know I'm lucky in the fact that I have to just take ONE math class in college that just rehashes all the math you learn in high school

BUT IT SUCKED IN HIGH SCHOOL AND STILL SUCKS NOW
Too much converting damn fractions.

My brain hurts, I ordered pizza so I think I'll just take a break for a moment.
So, how's all the college kids doing?
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1.  I'm feeling pretty grateful right now. The only homework for college algebra I get is practice problems I never do. And not only that, but I've got a cool teacher who actually teaches me in a way I actually DO understand! And to top it off, I'm only graded on 5 exams and a final exam, with the lowest grade being dropped. >:3 Fun fact: basics are useless. By the time we finish our basics, that information will be obelete and we'd have wasted two years of education. Posted September 18th, 2012 at 7:10 PM by Taro Tanaka
2.  Basics are useless . . . AAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA! Foolish human! The fundamentals are so vitally important in Mathematics for without a solid basic foundation, you have no hope in hell for doing the more advanced stuff. Posted September 19th, 2012 at 1:56 AM by Overlord Drakow
3.  Just ask Drakow to do it! And my brain hurts from looking at this too ._. Posted September 19th, 2012 at 4:21 AM by Kura
4.  I get that fundamentals are important--and you should definitely know how to do all these things--but I think that many practise problems is overkill. I've had a calculator that can handle operations on fractions and spit them back to you in their most simplified form for years so it's not just like everyone is slow to adopt technology and is getting used to the fact that people can afford calculators nowadays. A decent one is \$10-15, a great one is \$25. So long as you know what to punch into the calculator to get the right answer, I feel like that's sufficient. Obviously, if you're going into something math-intensive, you're going to need to know how to do things in your head quickly at times, or know things inside-out... but generally? Everyone carries a calculator around with them 24/7 if they have a phone. This sort of thing just isn't important to memorize anymore. :/ A handful of questions to show you understand the material is more than enough and anything more is pointless busywork. Posted September 19th, 2012 at 10:03 AM by Cherrim
5.  Quote: Originally Posted by Lightning I get that fundamentals are important--and you should definitely know how to do all these things--but I think that many practise problems is overkill. I've had a calculator that can handle operations on fractions and spit them back to you in their most simplified form for years so it's not just like everyone is slow to adopt technology and is getting used to the fact that people can afford calculators nowadays. A decent one is \$10-15, a great one is \$25. So long as you know what to punch into the calculator to get the right answer, I feel like that's sufficient. Obviously, if you're going into something math-intensive, you're going to need to know how to do things in your head quickly at times, or know things inside-out... but generally? Everyone carries a calculator around with them 24/7 if they have a phone. This sort of thing just isn't important to memorize anymore. :/ A handful of questions to show you understand the material is more than enough and anything more is pointless busywork. Dude a great calculator is ~100 dollars if not more. I've had a TI-83+ required for calculus for years, and that's on amazon for 94 bucks. >_o It's ridiculous. But I agree that a lot of math, while helpful as a thinking exercise pretty much, won't be relevant in the real world because you can look up/punch in whatever thing you need to know. There's no real-world situation where you can't just reach for a calculator. Same with memorizing formulas and things like the periodic table in other classes. You will never be in a situation where you will have to have this memorized in work, even if you work as a chemist. D: Posted September 19th, 2012 at 11:36 AM by Oryx
6.  Quote: Originally Posted by Lightning I get that fundamentals are important--and you should definitely know how to do all these things--but I think that many practise problems is overkill. I've had a calculator that can handle operations on fractions and spit them back to you in their most simplified form for years so it's not just like everyone is slow to adopt technology and is getting used to the fact that people can afford calculators nowadays. A decent one is \$10-15, a great one is \$25. So long as you know what to punch into the calculator to get the right answer, I feel like that's sufficient. Obviously, if you're going into something math-intensive, you're going to need to know how to do things in your head quickly at times, or know things inside-out... but generally? Everyone carries a calculator around with them 24/7 if they have a phone. This sort of thing just isn't important to memorize anymore. :/ A handful of questions to show you understand the material is more than enough and anything more is pointless busywork. Oh yeah, I forgot the Americans and Canadians get to take hardcore scientific calculators into their exams, lmao. Erica my dear, allow me to break it down for you. Why do you think schools get you to do similar problems over and over? Well, let me ask you this to get your mind rolling. Why do I practice the same punches and kicks each time I take a karate lesson? Why do I practice the same songs on the piano each time I go to play? To develop muscle memory. Repetition builds this memory, even to the point where certain actions can become second nature. This applies to both physical muscles and 'mental' muscles. Yes you can argue that for most people, it's not needed to be able to do these exercises mentally or particularly quickly, but would it not be ideal to be able to do so? Wouldn't everyone want to be able to do these things quickly and (almost) effortlessly anyway? Posted September 19th, 2012 at 11:45 AM by Overlord Drakow