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Black & White have already lost, thanks to history and the past failures of Pokémon

Posted May 13th, 2010 at 1:23 PM by BeachBoy

I'm diving into murky waters here, but ah heck.

Based on the pains of the fourth generation, the (majority thought) "worst" generation, people jump the gun to say that Black and White is going to be horrific and terrible. I don't think that's the right kind of thinking we need with these.

Yes, I didn't like fourth gen either, and it was very disappointing, but I won't let its performance or reactions affect my thinking for the fifth generation. I feel like a lot of you dislike Black and White already, ridiculously so for some fans, because of you're pre-determined "I'm going to hate these games" and other courses in the past that can change.

I love it, they finally make the protagonists older and instead, people directly attack what they're wearing. (if you honestly think those shorts are revealing or bad, ticket a visit to Florida, you'll find it modest) Or they throw some new ideas into the starters and boy that water-type never had a chance, it seems.

Has Gamefreak let us down many times? Yes, they have, and perhaps that has caused your hatred of new games, because you're expecting to dislike it, to be let down, to play a failure. I don't see it that way, I see every game in their own shade, and Black and White is off to a fine start.

I think based on the reaction of so little information, we've subconsciously created clunkers-in-making. I doubt it even matters what Gamefreak does at this point, they'll get attacked. The "they're running out of ideas" never, ever gets old for you all. It's old for me, think of something else.

I challenge you to erase the past, that bitter taste in your mouth, your already-set thinking, look toward Black and White with a refreshed view. You might even like something. You don't have to set your expectations high, but don't set them so low that you're killing the games before you give them a chance.

My question: if you already do dislike the fifth generation, or dislike it to a large degree at the moment, but are open to future updates, what is the real reason behind it? Why do you dislike it? Don't tell me you hate those shorts because they're too small, because we had a disproportional, 2inch mini-skirt last time, and that was far, far worse.

PS. apparently I am the only member that likes Mijumaru. *sigh*
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    BeachBoy's Avatar
    No no, that's exactly (same for the opposite side) of what I wanted to get. That is absolutely fine by me. XD; Thank you, Timbjerr.

    And yes, Digi-kun and I thought dinosaur too! Dilophosaurus, to be exact.
    Posted May 13th, 2010 at 6:11 PM by BeachBoy BeachBoy is offline
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    Sydian's Avatar
    I am currently in love with the otter<333 It's the cutest thing since Klippy I don't know and I love love love it.
    Posted May 13th, 2010 at 6:17 PM by Sydian Sydian is offline
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    TSUTAAJA!! <3
    Posted May 13th, 2010 at 6:17 PM by
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    Cherrim's Avatar
    1. Gen 4 was my favourite and NOT just because it brought Cherrim into my life.

    2. I loved Dawn's miniskirt it was adorable. :( I just hate the new shorts because they look like the pre-ripped crap that I harp on people for owning these days lmao. Everything else in the girl's design? I love love love love love it. :D And the guy looks good too. No GLARING DESIGNS THAT MAKE ME WANT TO PUNCH HIM like most character designs lately. *shot, lol*

    3. I am looking forward to B/W. If I don't like the starters, I'll just go against my "new Pokemon game morals" and toss a Cherubi into the game to play through with. Problem solved.

    4. Maybe the reason I like 4th gen so much is because I'd almost given up hope with the Pokemon games after gen 3. I really, really disliked gen 3. :( Anything is an improvement over it, imo.

    5. idk why I'm numbering this.

    6. Honestly, I don't see a problem with hating gen 5 but at least wait until we have more than some (shoddily or wonderfully designed, depending how you see it) starters and protagonist scans. :| Yeah it could suck but it could also be awesome. And you know what? It's a Pokémon game either way. It's not going to revolutionize the gaming industry. The games did that once 12 years ago and don't need to do it again because they found a formula that worked. If the formula doesn't work for you anymore, time to bow out and get into the spinoffs or quit the games altogether but saying [any new] games are crap is silly because they're pretty much the same damn game we've always enjoyed. YOUR TASTES are what are changing. :/ And if the games still entertain you? Great. Keep playing them. But realize not everything is gonna sit well with you and the things you're bashing? Someone else likes them with equal fervor that you hate them.

    7. I really hope they don't make a Cherrim evolution. ._. I'm sick of feeling the need to evolve all my favourite Pokémon. Dude, the only one of my favourites that's fully evolved is Probopass.

    11. I just wanted an 11.
    Posted May 13th, 2010 at 6:19 PM by Cherrim Cherrim is offline
    Updated May 13th, 2010 at 6:20 PM by Cherrim (the hell did I put two font closing tags)
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    .Gamer's Avatar
    Originally Posted by Wolflare View Comment


    :x lol
    It wasn't nostalgia, I mean, the designs are looking more and more like neo pet/digimon/some other bad thing nobody plays anymore. I mean, Dialga? REALLY? was that the BEST they can do? Yeah, Gen 4 was horrible. I could talk about all the bad things platinum caused, but there is a character limit.

    @ timbjrr (about new plot) "lol" They haven't significantly changed the plot in 10 years. New names, "bad". New plot "sorta...", new legendaries "why so many???".

    Brings me to my next point, why does there need to be SO many legendaries. It was all fine and dandy with having less than 10, why do we need half a pokedex? [/reckless exageration]. But lets be honest, we have a pokemon for literally every aspect of life, what the hell is possibly left? "Being of GameFreak is a bunch of Lazy Asses"? Oh wait, thats DP! :x

    I don't eagerly anticipate it. In fact, the only reason I'm buying them is because back when I was a kid I said I would buy all the main line pokemon games. (RBYGSCFRLGRSEDPPHGSS etc) I just hope for one thing, and one thing only.

    They pay attention to the metagame. I know we are a relatively small group compared to the big scheme of things, but honestly, don't make stealth rocks v2.0 and troll us with broken stuff anymore, its not cute. And no boosting Draco Meteor's base power to 180.
    Posted May 13th, 2010 at 6:43 PM by .Gamer .Gamer is offline
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    TwilightBlade's Avatar
    Only buying B&W if:
    Posted May 13th, 2010 at 7:00 PM by TwilightBlade TwilightBlade is offline
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    Elite Overlord LeSabre™'s Avatar
    I'm a card-carrying member of Roy Mustang's Miniskirt Army. I WANT to see my protagonist in a miniskirt.

    There, I said it. Now PC knows about another one of my fetishes, lol
    Posted May 13th, 2010 at 11:19 PM by Elite Overlord LeSabre™ Elite Overlord LeSabre™ is offline
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    Ivysaur's Avatar
    I'll decide when I see the plot. Honestly, Emerald was quite fun, and I enjoyed it more than any other game up to date. D/P/P felt kind of messy until the end. That's probably why Colosseum and XD are my favourite pokémon games, plot-heavy without killing the regular battle style.

    HGSS got a free card because of nostalgia, but it needs more plot. It's a RPG. I don't care about how pretty the new pokémon look, or I wouldn't have enjoyed Quartz so much. I don't care /much/ about the graphics. Give me a good plot and I'll be happy.
    Posted May 13th, 2010 at 11:56 PM by Ivysaur Ivysaur is offline
    Updated May 14th, 2010 at 1:46 AM by Ivysaur (Forgot a d, thank you Nica)
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    Forever's Avatar
    *Emerald, Went.

    Posted May 14th, 2010 at 1:44 AM by Forever Forever is offline
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    Vrai's Avatar
    I'm with you pretty much to the point that you say that you like Mijumaru. :D

    Tsutaja is by far cooler.. and even Pokabu looks cute. But Mijumaru... ):
    Posted May 14th, 2010 at 9:40 PM by Vrai Vrai is offline
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    BeachBoy's Avatar
    Awesome replies, thanks all. :D

    @ Vrai, just wait till we see what it evolves into. Then everyone will be like MAGIKARP 2.0!
    Posted May 15th, 2010 at 3:19 PM by BeachBoy BeachBoy is offline
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    Vrai's Avatar
    Originally Posted by BeachBoy View Comment
    Awesome replies, thanks all. :D

    @ Vrai, just wait till we see what it evolves into. Then everyone will be like MAGIKARP 2.0!
    Watch it turn into an ugly clown. And then everyone will be like "ew", and I'll laugh.
    Posted May 15th, 2010 at 7:43 PM by Vrai Vrai is offline
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    BeachBoy's Avatar
    Shush up. ;_;
    Posted May 15th, 2010 at 8:28 PM by BeachBoy BeachBoy is offline

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