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  1. JDJacket
    April 30th, 2018 10:01 PM
    JDJacket
    Wow. I rarely visit this site anymore. Probably bexause gimmiepie is such an insuferable moderator.

    "I'll debunk you as usual there JDJ harharhar." weeks pass by. "Don't worry, I'm working on it harharhar".

    Kid has no clue how guns work.

    Anyways, the link you posted has some good points (hollow points are not AP and pretty much the exact opposite), but really, all your verbal ammunition should come straight from the FBI. Their statistical analysis and make up essentially sent gimmiepie running for the psyduckin' hills because you really can't argue with cold, hard data. Ha!

    I suggest using the FBI's UCR data tables, the DOJ's conviction statistics and criminal demographics and if they being up suicide, shove their damned noses in it with major suicide trackers. We're (the US) way behind Europe in suicides statistically as well as violent crimes if I recall. Really though my friend, I suggest not wasting your time and energy on these folk. Not really worth the effort and lord knows I've tried to reason with them calmly and kindly and it just isn't possible.
  2. Pinkie-Dawn
    November 14th, 2017 1:49 PM
    Pinkie-Dawn
    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-facts/

    I shared this link at the 2nd Amendment thread, but it was quickly discarded by one of the users without a second look. Mind if you could check if this source is actually credible?
  3. JDJacket
    November 29th, 2016 11:25 PM
    JDJacket
    Eh. I'm not a scientist, but I do acknowledge that the environment is impacted by human presence.
  4. Pinkie-Dawn
    November 21st, 2016 3:54 PM
    Pinkie-Dawn
    What are your thoughts on Global Warming being a myth or not. I've made a thread months ago about the issue based on a video I found.
  5. JDJacket
    November 1st, 2016 10:20 PM
    JDJacket
    Sorry I gotta make this a tad short today.

    I don't feel any pressure should be accepted on either side, but both sides should drop the censorship.

    I don't see how complaining about how a Pokémon character looks younger equates to creeper tendencies... *shrug*

    Insects are a vital part in the ecosystem, and you have more than a few thousand species living in your home at any one point. Even down to the teeny-tiny ones. Human pollination is a long and arduous process and termination genus' plants destroy natural nutrients in the soil and contaminate other plants, preventing them from reproducing. With Monsanto attempting to trademark and put forth copyright claims on a plant that's been around since ancient civilization is a bizarre way to go about things. Greed isn't a sustainable thing, mark my words.
  6. Pinkie-Dawn
    November 1st, 2016 6:04 PM
    Pinkie-Dawn
    Speaking of Honey Bees, Exo said this about how their extinction will not spell the end of humanity because of how terrible they are as pollinators.

    There seems to be a double standards where minors with developed breasts can get away with things because they physically look like adults but petite adult women don't due to looking like minors. The same thing happened with anime, where you have characters like Yoko Littner and Jotaro Kujo having adult bodies but are actually minors (the former is 14, and the latter is 17), and you have characters like Tatsumaki looking like a child but are actually full-grown adults (she's in her late 20's). Even Japan is trying to get away with their own AOC by making their 10-year-old female characters look like teenagers by giving them adultish traits for their body designs like May, Rosa, and Serena's large breasts. It's why I see fans on 4chan complaining about the female trainer from Sun and Moon for looking like an actual 10-year-old girl, which is where my Disquis friends and I got the impression that they're secretly pedophiles.

    I find it interesting that the U.S. tones down the sexuality in games and shows that come overseas whereas Japan tones down the violence in games and shows that come overseas. It's cultural differences like this and their treatment to the environment is why you have one culture trying to pressure the other culture to abandon their own and adopt a new one in order to be "normal."
  7. JDJacket
    November 1st, 2016 4:25 PM
    JDJacket
    TL;DR Censorship is bad, Exo is wrong

    Exodrake is wholeheartedly wrong. Human existence is not a sustainable thing. Animals do not adapt at how quick we are to destroy. Think of the governmental implications alone within the past 100 years. The Caspian tiger was exterminated by the Russians because they wanted the space. Avians are most likely to go extinct, mammals seem to be the second most vulnerable. In the past 500 years we've said goodbye to well over 1,000 animal species that we know of, and there may have been even more casualties along the way. It's accelerated to a point where human growth is beginning to far outgrow several animal species, specifically mammals.

    Saying that it's the fault of the Great Plains Buffalo for not 'adapting' is callous. It isn't a bleeding heart thing, its a preservation issue. Insects, specifically honey bees, are beginning to become damaged as time goes on. We've seen hundreds of bee farms bite the dust within the last ten years. Insects themselves are vital to human survival.

    Trust me, no one is ever going to forget how to make another human, yet we lack the capability of preserving a 'lesser' species. If we can't preserve what we have already, it spells a certain foreboding doom that won't be seen until, of course, it's too late.

    They also don't take polychlorinated biphenyls as a factor either. Plastics don't break down fast enough, and at the molecular level, at all. Creating an item that doesn't break down into a foreign environment is... foolish.

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    On the articles of censorship: again, if you love digital or fake pornography fine. I can't consider these people as paedophiles simply because they have yet to harm any actual human being, however, once you cross that line it then becomes an issue. Real people are harmed through real photos. It makes it that more difficult to find the real villains when people are picking up cartoons and telling you they're criminals. How do you even slog through it when you're stopped and ordered to redirect your attention to yet another cartoon collecting crook.

    My view of censorship comes in the form of "I have no idea what is going on, please explain to me" and receiving a big box of otherwise sanitized documents. Censoring games and film because they are violent (think of Australia's censoring laws) or pornography because 'urine/femcum' or small boobies. Jane Patten had this to say about Australia's 'small boobies ban'

    I would like to clarify a few points. In the last 18 months [circa 2009] the Classification Board has revoked over 30 serial classifications [publishing approval] for a range of reasons, one major one being that the models appear to be under 18. These revoked classifications do not appear on the classification database.
    Late last year [circa 2008?] I attended a classification publications training session with 3 adult magazine distributors and one publisher. We were shown a range of images and the notes made by the board were read out. The underdeveloped nature of the model’s breasts was cited as a reason for the image to be refused classification numerous times.
    I don’t know which publisher Ruth Brown [author] spoke to but the 4 companies that attended the meeting with me have now drastically reassessed the publications that they will import or publish. All the publications that have been refused classification adhere to the very strict US laws that enforce model age verification in adult publications and films. These laws are upheld by the FBI. There is no chance that any of the models were under 18.
    Now, as fascinating as discussing pornography is I feel that I need to backpedal a bit and state that censorship due to perceived slights is a misuse of power (to prevent sounding like a perv). Censoring a movie or a game or a book for grotesque violence, despite it being wholly fictional, is doing a disservice to yourself. I recall Stephen King's book Rage being dropped from circulation because someone drew 'inspiration' from the book and went on a spree killing. Now, does a book spur someone to kill another human being? Of course not. The seeds of dissent were there already to begin with. What about videogames and movies? No correlation has been found between violence that is fictional and actual criminality.

    People have been killing people since before recorded history. Censorship isn't just about pornography, it takes place in books and film. If someone then has the power to decide what you see, what you consume, what you experience then you're not doing so much thinking. Censorship is what enabled dictatorships and governments throughout history to come to prominence. Propaganda and censorship fall in the same vein and I don't particularly like either.

    Now, does this mean that preventing a child from seeing someone's head stoved in is wrong? No, and neither is it wrong to prevent a kid from seeing something no one should have to see. Seeing real violence is mentally scarring and the smell never leaves you. Real death is a nightmare.
  8. Pinkie-Dawn
    November 1st, 2016 11:18 AM
    Pinkie-Dawn
    My friends at Disquis and the guys from Pietriots are getting annoyed by these anti-censorship/localization groups because these people don't care if a video game ends up being good, for if it changes sexual outfits for underaged characters in order to be more acceptable in the west and not be labeled as "child porn," then it's automatically bad. We assumed these groups of people were secretly pedophiles who only desire to fall for digital little girls. This long article from Pietriots and this article one of my Disquis friends wrote covers this issue.

    Here is one of Exodrake's posts to get a full understanding about her thoughts on endangered animals.

    People suggested moving into space instead of sterilization, but if you've seen the movie Wall-E, then you would know that people who live in space will suffer bone loss and become obese in a few hundred years. And living in Mars is no exception either because we'll be an invasive species to its native microbe organisms.
  9. JDJacket
    October 31st, 2016 9:55 PM
    JDJacket
    TL;DR: Real Lives > Digital Lives

    As far as I can recall, the laws are iffy in terms of Hentai as a whole. Possession of snuff films will get you investigated and potentially incarcerated, but owning the film Saw won't. It's always been a slippery slope and I think that efforts are put elsewhere instead of protecting the rights of digital citizens. Sims have the right to build as much wood furniture and fireplaces as I please.

    Exodrake sounds... not so smart. Evolution takes eons and is not perceivable in our time lines. Radiation, however, can be seen as a direct manipulation of the process though... Rhinos don't drive tanks and whales don't carry machine guns...

    I'm not suggesting genocide, but merely sterilization and perhaps a limit on how many children can be introduced into the world. The more people there are, the more mouths to feed, less fish to go around, savvy?

    I've never likes the Protect Law where it protects digital children and I railed on PeTA for protecting the rights of Pokémon and attacking Cooking Mama and Mario. It's much the case of Grand Theft Auto. Does going around in a digital car and mowing down fake or digitized citizens count as murder? The Protect Law doesn't word itself as well as it should and a 'depiction of a person' doesn't really clarify the process. It's a tool used to meet quotas. Instead of going after real criminals and protecting our living citizens (or deceased) we dump resources into finding non-violent offenders that look at cartoon pornos. I missed the class on how cartoons are real life characters.

    Censorship and fruitless laws are criminal. If the case does go to trial where someone owns this digital cartoon pornography, they'll be labeled a sex offender for about 75 years and a felon for the rest of their life. The same as if you harmed a real child. See the problem I have with it? Digitized lives do not equate as real lives. Real people die and don't come back, and conversely some courts treat them like they don't come back [digital] and feel pain as if they were alive. The Protect Law, some of which was found unconstitutional by the by, was signed by Bush jr. It created loopholes that weren't there previously. It made it potentially possible to own legitimate pornographic photographs of real children so long as they serve 'an artistic purpose'.

  10. Pinkie-Dawn
    October 31st, 2016 5:05 PM
    Pinkie-Dawn
    Apparently, animated pornography was briefly mentioned in the U.S.'s child pornography laws, so you will get arrested if you're caught looking at lolicon, which is why loli fans are against the NSA.

    There was this user named Exodrake who think there's no use to protecting endangered animals such as Siberian Tigers and Black Rhinos because it's natural selection, and it's their fault for failing to adapt to changes we've made since we're animals ourselves.

    So you're suggesting human genocide? This is why I praise Lysandre from Pokemon XY and Ultron from Marvel Comics for using genocide as their one only solution to saving the planet from war and conflict.

    I heard about an anime whose sole purpose was to convince the otaku culture to start making babies to solve their decreasing population. Of course, trolls would prefer nuking Japan for the third time because of their bad otaku-pandering modern anime.
  11. JDJacket
    October 30th, 2016 9:02 PM
    JDJacket
    Censorship, in terms of animated pornography is an issue for me. Lolicon and toddlercon, while I might find it... odd, it's a drawing, and I'd much rather have a drawing that harms no one rather than the actual thing, no?

    However, physical domination as evident in many cultures around the world, like China's foot warping, genital mutilation in several cultures, stoning, and the acceptance of rape is not okay. Real > Digital. If you have a game like Postal, for example and you go around deleting digital lives, I'd much rather you have your butt at home instead of running around with a shotgun in reality, savvy?

    Whaling, however, is a somewhat different issue. Whaling was also prevalent in much of Western culture once upon a time (hence the inspiration for the novel Moby Dick). I always believe in licensing to prevent over hunting or over fishing. Everything should be monitored and balanced to prevent over hunting. Siberian Tigers are a prime example. Chinese medicinal beliefs held that specific parts of the tiger would heal or aid the consumer. Tiger eyes, claws, testicles, brains, skin and other internal organs were coveted items on the market. Now we have about... what, 400 wild Siberian tigers in the the world?

    What of the Black Rhino? Irrevocable damage to the land and ecosystem is then a sign that someone must place a kind of embargo on the animal until they can recover to an acceptable. Career fishermen know this and eagerly plot out their year to allow for fish to re-populate their numbers before fishing them again. You can't sell tuna if there is no tuna, no?

    Too bad humanity is fighting a losing battle and the only way to win is to torch ourselves, effectively loosing our grip on the planet, but that's another dark conversation to have at another time.

    Believe it or not, several states have their AOC at around 16. Hawaii's AOC is 16, with a close in age (5 years) exception. So a 15 year old could potentially bed a 20 year old. Interesting stuff, but it's much more widely accepted that 18 is the AOC as a rule. Besides, Japan is getting desperate. They're getting older and older and nobody is having kids over there. I'd gladly help, but I doubt they'd ask me for assistance ohohohoho! Wait... no, not the... never mind. It sounds dirty no matter how I look at it. Fufufu.

    Ohohohoho! No matter! It is what it is. Hopefully I answered your questions. If you have anymore, fire away!
  12. Pinkie-Dawn
    October 30th, 2016 2:50 PM
    Pinkie-Dawn
    Asking this question on VM in fear that it would be off-topic for the cultural appropriation thread, what are your views on the idea of western society pressuring Japan to abandon their culture and adopt a western-oriented culture due to Japanese culture being viewed by westerners as "immoral" for killing protected whale species for food and sexualizing minors in their games, anime, and manga (marking it as child porn since the characters are below the west's age of consent, which is 18)? It's an issue I've been interested about for a while now since the whole anti-censorship/localization movements going on in recent years.
  13. JDJacket
    October 27th, 2016 3:46 PM
    JDJacket
    I guess someone egged them on I guess. They cause more problems than they try to solve, ironically. Too bad they don't see it. How is harassing a white guy supposed to help him understand or want to help black people? I go about my business and do what I can to better myself, not worry about what everyone else says or does. That's all you can do, but these people might not see how a passive and peaceful process would help them.
  14. Pinkie-Dawn
    October 27th, 2016 10:00 AM
    Pinkie-Dawn
    I'm curious as to what triggered these groups to become so vocal in the first place. This hasn't happened up until the 2010's.
  15. JDJacket
    October 27th, 2016 9:51 AM
    JDJacket
    Did the English language take a vacation? Am I missing something here? They? Them? I will never, ever refer to a singular being as a they or a them. People need to stop this behaviour. This showing up and hooting at someone isn't very productive. I didn't think it was as bad as the last one I saw though. This is more sad than anything else. They (the group) were not listening to his reasons and continually asked the same question multiple times. I'm sorry, but trans people are not calculated into any death statistics, neither are gays, lesbians, hermaphradites, etc. the state separates people into racial categories, not gender or sexual preference categories, They are not significant enough to make a difference and would hinder data collection speeds. I highly doubt that there is an actual, factual study and data analysis on how many 'gender quests' killed themselves.

    In a different setting, like a classroom, it would have been better without them all trying to talk all at once, and as for housing that the person holding the camera that the individual was denied housing due to being transgender is extremely hard to believe. I think the individual is lying and the only way that he/she/it/xeno would be denied is through personal reasons. The person does not realize that Realtors don't give a damn about what colour, who you, what you are so long as your money is good. Realtors lose out on $15,000 (or more) on a failure to sign. I call bullmuk. Being denied a house due to gender discrimination is an extreme stretch and I doubt any Realtor worth their salt would just let a cash cow waltz on by. Could have been worse I suppose, but liars are everywhere