Conversation Between Jordan and RivalGator
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  1. RivalGator
    November 3rd, 2010 9:37 PM
    RivalGator
    Yeah. I think that's just waht I love about it though. Everything is kind of anonnymous, and people can rant it out usually without being stopped or interrupted. And really, when DO people ever change their minds after a debate anyway? lol. We all think what we think no matter what. Haha, and sure. I don't really debate well on real world topics more. I'm more the one to debate on video games or such.

    True. I can see where you're getting at... I have been to all kinds of forums in my youth. I'm not really that old now, but I'm definitely no newcomer when it comes to forums. I guess that is why I can be really picky at times with people. And yeah. When it comes to this forum I will generally leave for about two to three days and then come back to answer VM's and maybe post around a bit. I try to check every day, but I can't always get online every day.
  2. Jordan
    November 1st, 2010 4:53 PM
    Jordan
    Youtube? Oh dear. I don't believe Youtubers have a very good reputation, especially since they can remain very anonymous. For me, it's more of a curse than anything since generally, most people don't change their minds after a debate (I know I never do, and if anything, I swing further into my own position). I'd love to debate you anytime, haha. Pick a topic, any topic.

    Maybe it's because a lot of users here are young? This is just an observation, but for a lot of folks, PC is their first forum. Maybe I should be glad I've never delved too much into the Sonic fandom, then. I generally refrain from calling anyone a newb or a n00b myself, preferring more "normal" terms like newcomer and...well, idiot. Forums usually don't hold my attention for long, unfortunately. Me staying here as long as I have is a miracle.
  3. RivalGator
    October 24th, 2010 3:23 PM
    RivalGator
    I can understand you completely. I debate constantly with people, mostly on YouTube more than anywhere else, but still. And I would love to see our debates, because I am also similar to you in that I never give up in the debate. I refuse to end it and I refuse to give in. lol. I can be very stubborn and I can argue as long as the other person can argue. It's either a gift or a curse. I argue more about things that are ridiculous, un-needed, or stupidity. I just debate on the things I know a whole lot about.

    It seems here they don't really differentiate newb and n00b. I see them used as the same term all the time, and I can't stand that. Someone called me a n00b once, and I took that offensively because I had always known the term to be someone who was basically a bumpkin who didn't know which way was up. But in the Sonic forums, you're not going to find people any ruder than the people who frequent them. I mean, the meanest, rudest people I have ever met have gone there, and Sonic forums were the first forums that I ever started to visit. I guess that's where I get my knowledge from. If you were to prove that you were not a n00b, then you had to type like you had sense and use good grammar and show that you were competant enough to add 2 plus 2. Those Sonic forums were WAY more strict than PC, but PC is strict, yet nice enough to make it enjoyable.
  4. Jordan
    October 23rd, 2010 5:16 PM
    Jordan
    Heh, I guess we're peas in a pod, then. I've also been told that I get passionate often and tend to attract real life trolling. I'm very willing to have a civil debate with anyone, but my biggest weakness is that I refuse to lose or give ground to the opposition; thus, many times I'd be pushed to support extremes of my side of the argument (especially in economics related issues), which I have a difficult time defending...but I do so anyway.

    Weird, I've always differentiated between newb and n00b. But it's pretty cool that you used to be a forum admin though. I wouldn't object to that kind of administrating though, since I like my forums free of trolls and general idiocy - one reason why I tend to stick to forums more or less known for strict policies like PC.
  5. RivalGator
    October 18th, 2010 2:50 PM
    RivalGator
    I have always been one to debate, but I have been called a hot headed kind of person and I can get quick into any kind of debate. I can think on my feet only if I know the subject I am talking about well. I love more than anything to debate because I have a very challenging, competitive nature. I don't mean to be rude, but sometimes I can seem that way because if I don't agree with someone, I am very blunt about it and I put emotion into it and I debate. It's something that I love to do. I can do that over the internet or IRL, that wouldn't matter.

    I remember back in 2003 there was this site called Sonic Zone. It was infested with the ****ers. I was made administrator there, and I was well known through all the existing Sonic sites at the time as the n00b nazi... I would ban a n00b on site and there were no questions asked. ((Back then n00b and newb meant two different things... I see it used all the time for a newbie now. Back then, n00b meant you were uneducated and spamming all the time and just in general plain stupid.)) But eventually it got a little out of hand and I left because the real admin there didn't agree to my ways.
  6. Jordan
    October 16th, 2010 2:18 PM
    Jordan
    It's just that with actual verbal dialogue and not just typing things up in an instant messenger or visitor messages, a lot more conversation can be passed between two people in a shorter amount of time. It also forces me to think on my feet quicker. I think that not having enough conversations have made me less of a debater because thinking on my feet isn't something I'm very good at, and that's not good since I tend to get into debates often.

    Heh, I'll give you that there are too many entitled people out there who only worry about the stupidest of things. Though maybe you haven't met enough online people then, since I know that outside of PC where trolling and spam is less toughly regulated, stupidity is available in abundance. I've been there, trust me.
  7. RivalGator
    October 14th, 2010 6:52 PM
    RivalGator
    Yeah, that makes total sense. I have always been missing the actual being able to talk to people because I am either too aggressive or too annoyed by people my age. Actually, a true fact about myself, I have a really hard time talking to people of my own age. They usually talk about stupid **** like... This one time, a girl friend I had in high school was like, "Eivana, my boyfriend lives like fifty miles away from me, I have only met him once, and he's really hot so I love him, but I think he's cheating on me and if he leaves me my heart'll be broken and I'll never overcome it and I think I'll kill myself!"

    ...I dunno. I just try and find smarter people than that. Most people I have met online don't say stupid **** like that. I have seen people say some pretty stupid things, but... I mean, lord have mercy. That's ridiculous.
  8. Jordan
    October 14th, 2010 6:36 PM
    Jordan
    Right, there's always the ease of anonymity that allows people to mesh with others of similar interests easier. It's human nature to form cliques to feel safe; I don't really mind that. Sure, it's easier to get people to notice and listen to you online but I feel that you're also missing several crucial communication aspects as well by not really talking face-to-face, especially non-verbal communication. And yeah, there are many people out there who really don't pay enough attention, though I try to give them benefit of the doubt and assume that they don't know what they're doing is really angering others around them. I'd rather be direct to someone rather than be nice, even if they're good friends...and that tend to strike some uncomfortable reactions from them whenever I deem something they do wrong to be, well, wrong, hahaha.
  9. RivalGator
    October 13th, 2010 7:37 PM
    RivalGator
    I think it's a bunch of things, actually.

    When you're in RL, you're just kind of mingled with a bunch of random people who probably will immediately fall into a clique or just flat out be alone. Online, you can choose what sites you want to go to. You can fit in comfortably with people who share the same interests and you aren't forced to join a website of something you don't like. Most of the time people online don't pressure you as much as RL people. RL people can make you feel more trapped, as Online people usually just want to chat as badly as you do.

    I think that's really a big part of it. I am a really deep person, but people IRL just don't really do anything that makes me feel like I'm being listened to. When I talk online, almost everything I say gets responded to and people are just nicer. It could be anything though. I am much nicer online to people than I am forced to be IRL. I think that's another reason. I love being nice. I hate when people try to piss me off and stuff like that.

    I've put thought into it, yes. lol.
  10. Jordan
    October 13th, 2010 7:23 PM
    Jordan
    But online people are also actual people in real life, right? I think everyone is deeper than they appear to be, but they just find it hard to get into conversation. It's much less pressure online, I guess.
  11. RivalGator
    October 12th, 2010 3:23 PM
    RivalGator
    Yeah. I actually trust quite a few more people online than I do people IRL. People online tend to be a lot smarter; or at least the people I talk to, that is. I don't like talking to idiots, so.

    Yep. That was the one!
  12. Jordan
    October 1st, 2010 6:31 PM
    Jordan
    Depends on how much you're willing to trust the other person, I guess. It's rare that I would have such hefty conversations like I did with you a few months back with someone online.

    Was that the same incident you told me about before? I'll take it as a life lesson and watch out for those pesky telephone poles.
  13. RivalGator
    September 19th, 2010 4:47 PM
    RivalGator
    They are important, honestly, but I never put friends before important things ALL the time. I have to the other stuff, or else I won't have any time for friends. Honestly, I have closer friends online than I do in real life. ((Plus I'm working on learning French, so that is something that takes a person several years to get the hang of.))

    I have been driving for a while now, I love to drive. It's a big relief, not having my parents take me everywhere and being able to go as far as I want. (As long as I have gas! XD) Driving isn't scary or bad. I love it. Although you have to be careful though. I was in a bad car accident because I wasn't being careful. I thought I knew all there was to know about driving and bam. Right into a telephone pole at 55 mph I went.
  14. Jordan
    September 18th, 2010 6:20 PM
    Jordan
    When push comes to shove, internet communities probably aren't too important in the long run. Like I said, I don't mind at all. I wish I could follow your lead and put work before fun, but it's tough, haha.

    I'm having my dad teach me driving, and since he's busy most of the time, it'll be a while before I actually get into the driver's seat. I'm looking forward to it, though. I'd imagine your first driving test wasn't a fun experience.
  15. RivalGator
    September 16th, 2010 7:51 AM
    RivalGator
    I haven't been on this site in so long. I haven't forgotten about anyone, I just am working so hard and doing stuff that I forget certain places I need to go.

    When I took my written exam I passed it the first time, then I had to take my driving test twice. (The first time I was so incredibly nervous I bumped into another car. The cop beside me.)