Conversation Between TheDarkShark and The 100 Mega Shock
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  1. TheDarkShark
    October 15th, 2011 2:50 PM
    I think you've got my argumentation wrong. There's nothing wrong with starting out using AM. But it makes taking the easy way out more usual-- I started with AMap, too. The problem is, that many (not to say most, at least too many) people always ask for tools before they ask how it works.
    And to your second queation: I haven't exactly said, that only pros would ever want to read or post anything there. The idea is, that hackers who want to develop something new come there. Before you can develop something yourself, you should first understand the "old" stuff, so I suppose the Tutorial-section would be best.
    Furthermore, I didn't say, that you have to be a god of intelligence to be worth something in ROM hacking. :O ...Well, maybe it sounded a bit like that, right? I agree, you can create a good game without hacking the engine at all, and you can forget the game because of hacking the engine. How come you thought I wouldn't agree? I never said anything about the relationship of game design and hacking.
  2. The 100 Mega Shock
    October 14th, 2011 2:13 PM
    The 100 Mega Shock
    Furthermore, why should someone's worth at ROM hacking be considered of their technical prowess above all else? You can hack the engine as much as you like but come out with a game that's not fun to play at all, just as much as you can be an amazing artist or writers but have a game that's let down by technical issues. Hacking should be about encouraging people at their own pace to improve their skills in any way they can and ultimately creating a group of like-minded people who can work together to make fun and impressive games, not sneering at those who can't understand ASM programming.
  3. The 100 Mega Shock
    October 14th, 2011 2:09 PM
    The 100 Mega Shock
    I'm sorry but you've contradicted your own argument already. What differences does it make to someone who doesn't like hacking with ASM whether they start by using tools like Advance Map or not? You can't train an Olympic swimmer by throwing people into the deep end without any sort of flotation device - they'll simply end up drowning. As to your other point, how do you know every user who views the Research and Development thread? There could be many people viewing with simply a passing interest who want to learn more, not simply a closed off group of technically skilled people.
  4. TheDarkShark
    October 14th, 2011 11:48 AM
    I'm not about to discuss that in the quick research thread, I just don't want to spam, y'know.
    The Research and Development are IS for advanced hackers - or those who want to have what they developed. Why should I welcome anyone to hacking there? Just asking.
    Oh, and btw. what you call an elitist way of view is just what I've learned from the German scene - which is kind of dying out because almost nobody researches something new, because most people who found AdvanceMap and the likes leave Hacking when they find out it is more than pressing colorful buttons. I think this is very sad and I don't want this to happen to the English scene.

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