Conversation Between DBZ fan and alisaie
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November 3rd, 2014 7:27 AMalisaieI got that the first time or second time you said something along the same lines? lmao.
Andddd... yeah sure let's just go with that you said. -
November 3rd, 2014 3:22 AMDBZ fanWell thats fine. Although ill just say how older companion joining Ash and his friends on journey to me isnt bad idea. Since by being in company of other people can often provide necessary moral support and encouragement, because of having someone who believe in you and provide backbone on which you can rely boosting your moral. Resulting to be of greater help to succeed in your aims and overcome obstacles; than being left on your own not having anyone to give you helping hand, pull you out of danger and advise when needed.
p.s. True, mega evolution sounds like perfect reason to bring Cilan back. He is pokemon connoisseur who specialize in examining bond and friendship between human and pokemon. How much thrust, respoect and understanding is present between them. Which would be excellent material for Cilan to learn more about relationship between pokenon and trainers, but test bond between hium and his pokemon possibly mega evolving one of them as well.
For Misty learning to mega evolve her Gyarados or Slowbro if she caught new pokemon would be great feat in advancing water master goal , because to become master coming to realization how to unlock full potential of your pokemon and develop closer bond working like team in reading their hearts and emotions is mandatoty to become strong water expert mastering their use. If you didnt learned to use your pokemon to full strength your deginitely not material for type master.
May learning to mega evolve her Blaziken or Venusaur would be great too giving her edge in future contests , helping to become top coordinator. -
November 2nd, 2014 11:45 PMalisaiei..... couldn't care less tbh? When I talk about characters I try not to talk about outside influences like writer decisions because no matter how bad the decision was it still happened. And thus part of the character. Which is why I don't get into discussions about how a writer handled Ash because l o l. Instead I try to look for in-character reasons for their actions (yes, including how DP Ash became BW Ash. Vacation mode! /o/ )
So. Yeah. Also I'm rewatching Pokemon to finally watch all the episodes because lol I play Ash and yet barely remembered anything before BW except for a few things ooops. Not to analyze the crap out of it. c:
I just.... a ton of reasons but Mega Evolution I mean what better thing than the complete trust and connection that a trainer and a Pokemon have together for such a thing to happen not be something a Sommelier be interested in. -
November 2nd, 2014 11:36 PMDBZ fanI understand girl, i do. But when your rewatching Kanto and Johto please take in account how writers followed different formula under Takeshi Shudo. Thats why Misty dreams werent expolored as much like other girl careers were when she was traveling and in middle of Johto Misty was abit stagnant and shafted. Because when GS ball was dropped writers were lost losing their main plot through which they justified Ash and his friends going to Johto in first place and transition period between mr. Shudo leavng head position as writer and Atsuhiro Tomioka wuith rest of staff filling up that place causing pokemon anime to lose direction and way in which characters would go and their development. Until they regrouped in 5th season which became more plot based with show starting to move forward.
When Master Quest started and Whirl Islands they restored Misty back to her full glory, but before that when watching Johto dont be surprised if you arent satisfied with way she got handled in middle of that region for reasons i stated above.
With Takeshi Shudo in hos blogs apologizing for Misty career as water trainer not being explored enough because of focusing too much on her role of Ash coach and mentor and personality growth in getting over complex of feeling inferior to sisters, becoming more mature and caring of Ash and Brock, more patient and acceptable of her pokemon like Psyduck etc.
With writers having ideas to do more wih Misty water master dream but didnt had chance to realize it because Misty was replaced with May. Ideas which exists in Kalos as well.
p.s. I would be very happy to see Cilan comeback in Kalos. He was such a fun and flamboyant character with Kalos as land based on romance, fine cuisine and profined taste being excellent fitting his personality so well. -
November 2nd, 2014 11:08 PMalisaieEh, like I said. It's up to interpretation/your point of view. I can't have this conversation/respond to most of that before finishing rewatching Kanto and Johto, now can I (half the reason why I'm not even bothering tbh. I'm not going to be like some other certain member who posts while not even watching the Pokemon anime anymore. 'Cept I'm in the case of 'I barely remember things'. It's just dumb and useless.)
Though I can say that sadly, Kalos is one of those places where I think several old characters would do well ( C I L A N OH MY GOD YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW UPSET I AM THAT HE IS NOT THERE OK ) but well... oh well. vOv -
November 2nd, 2014 11:04 PMDBZ fanSorry for long message, i just wanted to say why i dont think Misty returning temporarily(for season) wouldnt be bad thing imo.
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November 2nd, 2014 11:01 PMDBZ fanI see, my mistake than. Although i dont think Ash holds any of his friends back. Dawn almost became top coordinator in his company, Iris met various dragon experts, won Battle Club and caught Dragonite. Misty also made bigger progress to her career as water trainer in OS than in chronicles. Meeting all kind of powerful trainers who recognited her skills like Trinity, Dorian, Koga, Marina, Won Seaking contest, Alto Mare race, ended top 8 in Whirl Cup whic was tied to her water master career etc,
So i dont know hoe to feel about it. Reason why Misty didnt got enough progress on her dreams in Original seeies was because she was first girl with writers being inexperienced at that point and followng diferent formula focused more on journey and friendship and not much on training and battles.
Times changed and she would definitely get more love for development of her dreams if we ever saw her on screen in action again. Not to mention Misty doesnt even want to be gym leader for whole life taking it over because of sisters being lazy. So if they become more responsible or someone else is found its likely she could leave gym to make more notable progress in becoming water master and possibly E4 member like her idol Lorelei one day too.
I agree how joining Ash permanently would do NO good for Misty. But meeting up with him and traveling for season or two seasons going in same direction she is to enter some important tournbaments or enter special tasks to battle evakuatiors and plead herself to become Wallace or E4 Siebold in Kalos apprentice could work imo. Remembering in past adventures and friendship she had with Ash, having battle for old rtime sake to see how muzch both improved, revive on that humor, sarcasm, irritation and close bond, admiration they had for each other. While seeing Misty battle, do some kickass action, make success in coming closer toward achievement of her dreams and see her refrrshed and updated with new clothes, pokemon, new skills and personality characteristics of how much life with sisters or meeting other people affected her and how powerfrul she become on screen.
In Kalos there is way to mega evolve pokemon, there exist strong tournaments kike battle Chateau, there is water master Siebold and all kind of powerful pokemon which would be of great help for Misty career as water trainer instead of misssing on all fun rotting at gym.
Thats why i think Misty returning for 30 to 40 episodes traveling with Ash only temporarily until she reach next step in coming closer toward her dream wouldnt be too long, but too short either to see some cool development on screen and enjoy in her character, crazy antics and exciting action for one more time.
Because its no fun if everything is just left to imagination not seeing any of cool adventures imo. -
November 2nd, 2014 9:54 PMalisaieIt's not that I don't like misty. I adore Misty, I do. Please don't make that assumption. But just because I like Misty doesn't mean that I should want her traveling with Ash again. I just don't think it would be as productive to her success as if the traveled and met more people. Or hey even kept staying on her own two feet and being a gym leader. And hey, you never know what exactly is happening outside of Ash's travels. That's what headcanons and interpretations are for.
But yeah, that's how most of my "discussions" end up being too hahaha. Which is why I tend to stick to only talking to people who I know at least partially agree with me especially on my interpretations of Ash. it's definitely the most important to me when it comes to him because I actually roleplay him on another site and if my interpretations are constantly belittled or whatever it ruins my confidence in how well I'm playing him.
Which again might be selfish but hey I would just rather listen to those who like how I play him instead of talking to people who don't agree with me and making me feel bad? :b -
November 2nd, 2014 2:46 AMDBZ fanIf Daisy and older sisters become more responsible i could see Misty going on aventure to develop more innovative battle strategies , enter tournaments and come closer toeward becoming water master(maybe her idol Lorelei or E4 Siebold could take her as apprentice teaching how to master water type).
Aah, i understand. Yea not everyone likes Misty and if she doesnt entertain or appeal to your taste its reasonable why you wouldnt want her back. I respect that. ;)
Its ok if your not comfortable with such discussions because yeah debating can be sometime pretty strenuous, pointless and aggravating. Not leading anywhere but in deepening on gap between disagreements and intolerance.
Your wise in avoiding it because based on my experiences in past. At least 70% of discussions when i disagree with someone result in circular arguments wasting my and other side time not accomplishing anything in end.
Anhyhow if you want to ask me anything, ask for advice or just talk about smething feel free to stop by. I dont bite. :) -
November 1st, 2014 12:48 PMalisaieWell, she might be traveling who knows. vOv but I prefer the opposite and not have her join Ash.
Hahah, sorry. I am just really bad at that kind of chat because again, my opinions and interpretations tend to be different than others 80% of the time and I hate debating. So in the end I just tend to stick to my own opinions and just don't care enough to have a talk like this. A flaw in my character, but hey we all have them. vOv -
November 1st, 2014 12:42 PMDBZ fanOh no im not trying to accomplish anything.
Although ill just say how at gym Misty cannot become water master with traveling, catching pokemon and entering tournaments like Whirl Cup winning them being needed. So she can either leave gym to travel on her own or join Ash somewhere on road(personally i prefer later because than she can be seen on screen doing stuff).
I just tried to have some dispensable chat, but if you dont like talking about Misty or find talk tiring sure ill change subject.
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November 1st, 2014 12:33 PMalisaieI'm seriously lost on what you're trying to accomplish here lmao I see your point and opinion, I really do. I don't need statistics or anything else thrown at me telling me that she could be handled well tbh. And I mean, it doesn't really matter to me whether Misty comes back or not ( though if I had to choose I would just rather her stick to continuing her dream and not coming back to Ash to do so. But this is just my opinion with no statistics or anything attached to it. )
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November 1st, 2014 12:19 PMDBZ fanWell yea, but with older characters like Misty in case of coming back statistically they would have higher chance to be handled well than not. When viewing this things from objective standpoint.
Because if your going to bring back previous companion for longer return and not just small appearance, its in writers interest to provide plausible way behind his comeback and put effort into his story which prompted return to perceive him memorable and appealing to not only older but new generation of viewers as well. Since whole purpose behind his/her revival is to provide some unexpected twist and change from usual pattern to bring something fresh and unpredictable to fans.
p.s. Thanks for accepting to be friends. Glad you decided to give chance to pur friendship becoming potentially strong and meaningful in future.XD -
November 1st, 2014 11:21 AMalisaietl;dr: It could be better it could be worse. That's pretty much what it comes down to lmfao. Which I am aware of and I just like seeing both sides without having to do into tremendous details of that could happen because effort tbh.
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November 1st, 2014 11:18 AMDBZ fanAww sorry to hear that. I know my response was long, but i had so many things to say and explain there lol. Otherwise you wouldnt be able to understand my points there in case of reading it.
I know what you mean. Misty coming back might mean ending treated worse.
But she could end up treated better like Cilan and Clemont were over Brock or Dawn over May in terms of fleshing out her quest). Its abit too presumptuous to surmise how for Misty in case of return only one outcome exists, aka negative one. Never acknowledging positive scenario, which isn't very objective.
I mean Brock was treated better in Hoenn than he was in Johto imo, Ash was treated great in Hoenn when winning Battle Frontier and being mentor to May and i still disagree how he was boring in Sinnoh. His rivalry with Paul was fantastic and so were interactions with Dawn, Barry etc.
And in Hoenn when writers brought her back Misty instead of boring was only interesting becoming more mature and tougher, badass after obtaining Gyarados, Still being quirky, funny, snarky and hotheaded but in more responsible, levelheaded way i guess.
So i believe if Misty returns she could be handled better than she was before. Receive more development, progression of her water pokemon master dream and maybe even become first E4 female member of water pokemon. Misty said she wiukld kike to become like E4 Lorelei one day, that would be very cool i think. Fulfilling her dream of becoming famous and top class water trainer.
Just in Kalos for example there exist some really cool plots like mega evolving Slowbro or Gyarados, training under E4 of water pokemon Siebold, participate in Battle Chateau
or water tournament advancing her dreams.
She could help Serena to become more sure in herself and confident realizing what she wants from life and strengthening belief to be pokemon performer. With MIsty having some common things with her(no its not just in having feelings for Ash lol).
While enjoying in her emotional, humorous, snarky, romantic(Kalos is based on love and France which Misty adores)and adventurous personality.
Haha, thats fine if you disagree. I can be pretty opinionated and adamant in my beliefs too. So thats something we both have in common.{XD}
p.s. Hey would you like to be friends?

