Hehe, well, I'd definitely love to contribute something to your gallery, but there's no guarantee it will be anytime soon. :p And nope! I've never posted my artwork anywhere but here! I mean, there's a /chance/ that some like, happy birthday doodles leaked from here in 2011 and are floating around.. but other than that, there's no record of me or my art on the internet! I dunno, I guess I never really thought of posting my work on the internet because I get all the attention / critiquing / advice I could ever ask for outside of it. And i never had any kind of agenda to back it up, so it seemed a little silly-- at least considering that my "name" as a professional is already as known as I need it to be, you know? I suppose I could get behind the idea of hosting a website though... I just doubt I'll have the time. :o
Well, along side of my likes and dislikes, I just posted an anatomy test of Larvitar as a character. Obviously, Larvitar's shape doesn't really lend well to positioning or structure in general, so I elongated her legs and etc etc. So besides developing Larvitar as a character, I'm just trying to iron out how it'll actually look when I decide to draw her. I mean, I can sit around all day and /think/ about how she's going to be into video games, but at the end of the day that doesn't make her look any more or less like a Larvitar. That and there's no real room for any distinguishing characteristics like hair x_x; And any other features (specifically feminine ones) seem to define the character too much before she's even established, like red pout-y lips that beg, "take me". It's like... no thank you. xD So I've kept Larvitar very minimalistic in terms of clothing or exaggerated features.
And ya, A&D should be all about the oekaki, but it just sort of sits there neglected... maybe it's because the Showdown! PC server is so active? Idk, but it's a great tool that the regulars should start getting into! I mean, I'm sure they all love it.. but maybe they just stopped using it.
UGH I love Lissaaaa! Yes I totally did see that animation and instantly fell in love with it! <333; All of your characters are so amazing. And I love how they just /happen/. There's nothing forced in there and it comes across as so natural and believable when you draw or talk about them. I'm not gunna lie, I'm jealous! n_n;
Yeah, I hear ya. I suppose I respond to as many people's galleries as I can because I put myself in their position. Sometimes I don't honestly have to as many people have left comments already, but I like to show interest because, well, I generally am interested. On the other hand, the gallery that have no one saying anything, I wouldn't want them to come out of it empty handed, so I leave something there for people anyway, using what little critiquing skill I have to give them a hand. But it does seem like there's a lot of post and run users there, which I can't blame. If you've got no other ideas, what else are you gonna do? Might as well check out the other boards. Still, it would be helpful to help your fellow artists out.
Eh. Overall, I guess I don't really care. I was just curious about why everything seemed so off balance. I'm fine with doing what I do for everyone. :)
Well, as for AB, I always have something cooking even if it literally takes forever to get any of it done. I live such a busy life that it's hard to really devote any time to any one thing. Even the rough animation that I posted for Tonight, I probably won't touch it again for a few months. I honestly just wanted to have digital thumbnails that I can use at a later date. I'm backlogged on a few animations as it is.
If you wanna contribute (as I'm sure you've noticed I'm not the only one with stuff on that site, though I probably have the most (and with photos, it's hard to tell whose are whose unless they have a watermark or content that you know matches the artist)), that's really up to you. I never force anyone to do anything. As long as it's within a PG rating, that's basically my only rule. Well, that and drawn art needs a sig because a long time ago we had art thieves out the butt, so it's an identification safeguard. You know, that reminds me. I know you don't have a gallery anywhere else, but do you own any websites otherwise? I mean, I guess it might not make sense unless it was journal-esque, but I'm just curious.
The heck? I still wonder why we aren't using that oekaki. Sorry if that came outta nowhere, it just popped up in my mind.
Well, if your Larvitar likes comic books, then that's a bloody good start if I say so, myself. Lisa started off as a no-name-one-off that was in this gif (which you may have seen already):
Okay. So she did have a name. Clearly, it's Lisa. But anyway, just based on that one gif, she eventually became sort of a hyper, comic book, video game and technology nerd who was familiar with all the dumbest memes and internet culture. But that idea didn't last long because I couldn't relate (my knowledge of memes extends to Trollface and the old How Do I Shot Web, and that's about it, XD). So, I scaled her way the heck back, and now she's just a gamer girl who's into western comics, looking to eventually get a job in making games (NOW I can relate). This helped separate her from her friend, Tuff, who's a Japanophile/wannabe mangaka into eastern comics. Lisa also got toned down in demeanor, and now she's rather quiet, and Tuff is the crazy boisterous one. Lisa still shows her old crazier side in the heat of video game competitions, though.
Honestly, if Lisa was someone else's character, or I let someone else adopt her, she probably would've worked well with her intital characterization, but I literally don't know not a single person who's that into the internet, so anything I'd make up would just ring false because I have no life references. I don't like making up fake characters, so something had to give. However, I know a lot of people into comics, and I want to make games. I also know girls that want to make games, too. Boom, there you go.
And that's how character development works with me in a nutshell, with a character that seems pretty related to what you're looking for. What I'm saying overall is that a good place to start is definitely with things you either like, or things you understand. It'll take time for you to settle into a groove you like. Oh boy will it take some time. But once you settle on something, you'll really enjoy it. It's only when you really don't know where you're going with it that it seems pointless and you end up abandoning it.
Yeah, I guess that would be confusing lol. I drew those Larvitar. They are mine. Hawkeye / Cyclops / Grievous are not, however. That's what I meant. I wanted to let Larvitar's personality grow organically, like you said.. so I figured to good starting point would be to implant my /likes/ into Larvitar-- my likes being Starwars and comic books, you know?
Lmao, it's okay. Your rambling would only be annoying if it didn't actually make sense. Regardless of the direction, you make a good point, so the wall of text isn't as bad as you probably think. ;p Long story short, I don't mind people just browsing either. But I'm also hard pressed to believe that it's /so/ hard to contribute. I mean... maybe it's just the artist in me.. but I feel innately compelled to respond so something that stands out to me. In fact, it almost feels wrong not to! That's part of why I subscribed to Aqua Bunny, after all (which I'll get to in a bit). That being said, I harbor no resentment to users browsing, yet not responding, to my own gallery. I really just feel for anyone else who's actually looking for reviews. I realize everything that one person can say about my gallery has already been said-- but i still update because I want those browsing members to know that I'm invested in A&D, and I can be equally as invested in their art if they choose to contribute!
Anyway, enough jargon. Aqua Bunny~~~! <33333333; So, if I said I was in love, it wouldn't even begin to describe how I feel. If you're launching any new little projects for those Nidos in the future, let me know about it. I definitely want to be involved and contribute in some way. I just love the message of the entire site and everything it represents. It's hard not to feel engaged when there's someone with such a strong campaign supporting all those cuties! I cannot wait to see what you do next! :D <3333;
The thing about the 119 or so that you say were viewing A&D is that a huge portion of those people probably came from other sections, or aren't inherently artists. Honestly, I have no issue with that. I have no issue with any of it, really. But I guess what I mean is, well, it's the difference between posting your artwork on, oh I dunno, a forum completely dedicated to showcasing concept art (so now it has a purpose), and then posting artwork on a forum dedicated to plumbing. I wouldn't expect much from the latter. In fact, I would wonder what posessed me into thinking that was even a smart move. On the plumbing site, I may get a few "good jobs", but by and large, no one's going to have any real idea about what I've done, or even if it was something I worked really hard on vs something I slapped together.
On the concept art forum, though, the only reason anyone's there is to post work and get critiques on it. It's such a high profile site that anyone who isn't confident enough to showcase any work on it more than likely won't even sign up. Sites like this actually exist, they have some of the best artists I've ever seen anywhere, but heck if I'd ever join, it's really intimidating, and all my art is decidedly made for the purpose of being utilized in cartoons. n_n; Realistic skill, I have none (or at least lack the confidence to take seriously enough in regards to myself). I understand anatomy, went through all that, but once I started applying it to cartoony stuff and stopped practicing on the realistic, well, yeah.
Ugh. Anyway, so basically anyone who's remotely good will join this site. Because of how this site is set up, if you post artwork, you'd expect feedback. Conversely, you're almost expected to leave feedback for others as well. The site does not exist in a vaccuum, and it's not merely a place to just showcase art (they'll kindly redirect you to DeviantArt if you wanna do that). If all of a sudden, people stopped leaving feedback for others, and only lived within the bubble of their own galleries, that would be a very strange thing on that site, and it would effectively stop functioning the way that it was meant to. There'd be reason to show some serious concern.
Oh no, I have no idea where I was going with this. Curse you short term memory! That and my rambling. Bad combo.
Anyway, something about the above and then relate it to A&D but on a smaller scale because this site is not nearly as serious as said concept art sites.
Didn't Dero have a resource topic? I thought he was gonna sticky that. I've got a lot of those, though I probably need to find a site to upload a majority of them.
I don't know what PC family means, but okay. I don't have any objections. :)
lol, it's so hard to keep up with you... lemme try to tackle everything you brought up.
How the heck did I miss Cyclops. I mean, seriously. And I knew that last one was Hawkeye, I just knew it, but I didn't want to say anything because I thought I'd be wrong and didn't wanna look stupid. Grevious I didn't catch.
Aqua Bunny tends to do that to people, I'm told. :P Well, to anyone who actually goes through it (it's really the only way to appreciate the site, and that's when people finally "get it", skeptics included, I've had some of those :D). I'm pretty sure I still get plenty of click and exits, and I also get people who are Pokemon purists (in it only for the games) just jump to the articles, which is sort of missing the point (unless they go to that Yamash-ita article, that's my favorite one, but hey, I admire that guy). I guess they're still informative. If it wasn't for me, the Bulbapedia would still consider non-royal Nidos as hairless, which doesn't even make sense. But I get no credit for those things. That's fine. I'm totally cool with that. -n-
Aqua Bunny has done a lot for Nido recognition overall, but I think nowadays people don't really remember that anymore. Back in the mid 2000's (and paired with my original site), I really helped to boost Nidorina's popularity, and by extension, the other Nidos (you could literally count the amount of Nidorina fan art on sites like DA using only two hands). I described my site once as a tree. It's at a point now where there are branches branching off branches now, but they are removed from the trunk. That is, Nidos seem to be getting a lot more attention, but people are removed from how any of it started (or rather, when it really took off). And that's just sort of the way the internet works. Things spread around, and people no longer remember the origins. That, however, I really am okay with, because honestly I like AB as sort of small and of the greater internet's radar. :D
But enough about that. I just like getting historical, which to others is much more like unnecessary trivia... sorry for ramblin'.
Oh, and I was totally stalking the convo you had with Dero. So... watch out. I've got an essay... @_@;;
Yes, it does seem like A&D suffers from a lot of people browsing, not enough posting. For instance, we had like 119 users viewing A&D like 3-4 nights ago :o You know how many posts? Like two. :/ Personally, I always try to contact new members personally via VM (in fact, one time it ended up being Dero's alt -_-;) about strong threads / good posts / thoughtful discussions... to keep them coming back and posting; if not just to portray that yes, A&D is listening. Sometimes I feel like the "only good, informed posts" rule is a hindrance to activity... but then I figure that those found guilty of less-than-good posts would in turn demand quality responses in their own gallery so... It's somewhat of a moot point to amend A&D's rules of post condition to align with user apathy, you know? Unfortunately, I have no remedy other than every regular being attentive and aware of the forum's needs. Like Dero always says, "A&D needs love"! More group activities, more battles where /everyone's/ a winner, and above all, more encouragement, reinforcement, and celebration of creativity as an institution! Dero's doing such a good job modding.. and he's actually relatively new at the gig! (I don't think he was a mod when I showed up about a month ago) But I think we've all hit a little plateau-- not a decline.
I'd love to see a tutoring program started up for people who want to explore graphic design or traditional art / human anatomy / hands101 kind of thing. You'd be a great tutor! <333;
lmao it's Larvitar as Cyclops, Hawkeye, and Grievous! And I agree... mascots seem to be the perfect little conduit between ones imagination and the paper. Sometimes they're just easy to fall back on, other times it's dependent on the relationship between creator and createe. Idk, but I like it so far! n_n; Also, I'm totally subscribing to Aqua Bunny. I was all up on it last night. What can I say? I've got Nido-fever and it's contagious. ;)
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, those are really interesting, I feel like I should know what they're referencing, because they all look familiar, and yet I can't place not a single one of them.
It's actually kind of interesting how common Pokemon avatars seem to be, especially with people who seem to be really good at art in general, sort of like with Anastasia or Purple Kecleon. It's something you don't really see for any other series, or artists who have a preference for a different series (again, I think it has a lot to do with the fact that Pokemon are very interpretive because no two of the same species are technically alike. It's like taking your favorite monster and just making it yours in a way). Even Japanese artists on sites like Pixiv do this. It's sort of odd at the same time, because I feel like it's probably one of those things that keep us so interested in Pokemon for years. We probably all grew too attached to these goofy little characters we created.
They're not /mine/.. but I think it's a pretty good start on my road to making Larvitar my own. It's not me in there, but I'm integrating my likes and bdsjfnllaefnjaknkjanf I wrote a whole thing in my gallery just read that. :p
Ah, spoken like a true master. You know, it would be a damn lie if I said that I don't look at you 100% differently now. You gallery like.. totally rocked my world. ;; Oh, and I don't know if you know this yet but since you took your small leave Dero got rid of the "no gallery revival" rule! So bad, lazy artists can update them years down the road bwahaha :p
And I'm glad you like my little Nido / sig! I was considering doing a little reaction-piece comic strip about your gallery... [/bad, lazy artist] ._.; But ya, I'm totally going to try out the whole Larvitar thing! :D Like I mentioned in the thread, it makes galleries so much easier to relate to when there's a character that's emblematic of the artist.
Nice! I really like your new signature, which I knew you drew. It was sort of strange at first, though, in the sense that it doesn't look like anything else in your gallery. I'm sort of used to flipping styles and just going with whatever for the day (it's all mood dependant), so I don't know why it caught me off guard the way that it did.
I'd like to see what you come up with if you follow through with the Larvitar mascot. It's pretty fun, but you'll only get out of it what you put in. :D
Is it really that good? I dunno, I always think my stuff is ok at best. Like, all of it, all the time (though I do make stuff I favor every now and then). It's weird, because people like the art I'm contributing to games projects at school, too, and I'm just thinking "it's not that good. o_o" But I'm that guy who always strives to be better, even if he's really really lazy about it.
Well, okay, I can say I'm much happier where I'm at now than I was years ago. :) Sometimes I probably ought to do more self reflection, I never have time to relax and just think about stuff. Glad you like it at any rate. :D I have yet to revisit my post, I just got back.