Conversation Between Cyclone and Satoshi Ookami
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  1. Cyclone
    October 10th, 2012 8:51 AM
    Hahaha...guess we have differing opinions on the footprints. :D
  2. Satoshi Ookami
    October 9th, 2012 11:36 PM
    Satoshi Ookami
    I knew exactly what you meant. =D But you see... I see those footprints (actually OWs running away xD) as pretty nice easter egg :D And I wouldn't like to change it. :D Of course, fixing is a matter of adding new movement which makes OWs running on water like a Jesus :D)
    Yeah... there are cases when Pokémon just do "..." but... let's say they are fixated on the battle :D
  3. Cyclone
    October 9th, 2012 2:51 PM
    Yeah, I'm not asking you to change that stuff (if it sounded like I was, I apologize), I was just presenting what I thought was a better way of doing it. I'm surprised he did it the way he did and left the Gym wide open like that for anyone to wander around in.

    I already saw a preview of the next Gym after this. That will be a nightmare. I'm going to use the "writing walkthrough" excuse to peek at all of the warps; after all, I have to map what warps go where somehow. :D I can see they don't seem to go back and forth, which is odd.

    One thing that bothers me with the scripting around any beachy terrain, however (and these islands are beachy terrain) is the footsteps that appear where the obviously scripted invisible man is walking. After defeating the exec duo who placed the Orbs, everyone gets surprised and the camera moves north, then west. You see footsteps eventually in both directions. Obviously the sandy terrain generates footsteps; do you know any way to fix it so footsteps don't appear, or might it be necessary to change the terrain on those particular island areas to get rid of that strange appearance? (If I just confused you, go here, about 4:35, apparently I can't copy URLs at certain timeframes right now). My best guess is adding disappearing tiles that cover where the footsteps appear (like the balloon, part of which you can actually walk through); after the script ends and you leave the area, they go away (their removal could even be triggered by defeating the Gym or something). I gather these are sprites, however, and thus it might be difficult, but it would remove the sloppiness as long as it doesn't slow everything down.

    Alternatively, there could be TWO versions of the Imatari Islands; since you can't come and go through the side warp when battling Team Steam, the script could take you to one where alternate tiling is used, triggered NOT to cause footsteps, and returning later via Surf causes them to appear if you step on the island yourself. The glitch is we still need footsteps where we CAN walk.

    Speaking of the Team Steam events, Steven's Metagross isn't scripted to say its name while battling before the battle with the execs. An oversight on Wesley's part, I think.
  4. Satoshi Ookami
    October 9th, 2012 12:06 PM
    Satoshi Ookami
    As I once said, I don't really want to change something Wesley implemented himself...
    And level gaps are his choice.
  5. Cyclone
    October 9th, 2012 6:45 AM
    Another idea came to my mind...why not lower the Gym Leader's level slightly and have the Gym first? An NPC is still needed to block the door so the player can start at the lighthouse (i.e. change the sailor to the guy who stands just inside the Gyms here and move him there, but have its disappearance changed) and have the Lighthouse available immediately? This could allow the Grunts, who would then be fought AFTER the Gym, to be slightly stronger (the Lighthouse is generally Lv.26, and Sheila is Lv.28 herself on the Islands, the Grunts could become Lv.27 and Shield Lv.29) with the execs. then making sense at Lv.32-33. The execs. level is fine, Lucas could even be dropped to something like 30-33 with execs. being the same (since there's no going back to the PC during the event). Heck, Imatari Islands could then take place after the Gym with new scripting.

    I only thought of this because I spent time training to deal with the execs. and now will literally overpower everything else except perhaps the Gym Leader (and those Pokémon that are strong against him will level up quickly in other fights). Only problem with such a change is the easy availability of Rock Smash to move on before dealing with Team Steam (though an NPC could force a player to stay in the city, or the Duskulls could just block the way with the top event not appearing that removes them, still extra work). It works the way it does, I just wonder why he has two cases of Pokémon way above everything else and one literally before another 8 underleveled fights...oh well.
  6. Satoshi Ookami
    October 9th, 2012 4:43 AM
    Satoshi Ookami
    Yeah, that's why NPC ought to be enough... that would kill the possibility of saving inside of Gym =D
  7. Cyclone
    October 8th, 2012 5:27 AM
    The NPC is good, but the paths also need to stay in place. Otherwise people will still get stuck; this person saved INSIDE the Gym and got stuck. Blocking with an NPC until it's time helps with keeping people from unlocking the path early, but we can't have someone get stuck inside the Gym.
  8. Satoshi Ookami
    October 7th, 2012 9:57 PM
    Satoshi Ookami
    Yeah. Shinies (even if they appear) will have the same pallete as normal Pokémon. They will still shiny, though.
    As for the gym bug... yeah, I know about it but since it's been a long since someone was stucked there, I kinda forgot about it... I'm gonna block the Gym with a NPC.
  9. Cyclone
    October 7th, 2012 3:39 PM
    Hmm. After a new post in the thread, it's pretty much necessary to create a way to have the scripts for the third Gym's switches to stay on permanently; otherwise people will be permanently stuck there.

    I'm solving that user's problem for now by posting a link that only he will know about. I've hacked a path along the right edge of the Gym back to the start for him.

    Of course, the problem is people can go in the Gym before the leader is there. So it also needs a script to kick you out as soon as you enter. See SoulSilver, Ecruteak City, the Ghost Gym has one such script. Is this something you can add to prevent someone walking in and triggering the switches before they can challenge the Gym? Otherwise making the switches permanent has its problems with skipping Trainers.

    (I also found out that Wesley left it named "YELLOW TOWN". First map in bank 10.)
  10. Cyclone
    October 7th, 2012 7:47 AM
    Not present? Does that mean Wes omitted the possibility of Shinies even appearing, or would they appear with the normal sprite instead?

    (Probably best if completely omitted; otherwise people can trade them out of here to another game if they put the game on a GBA cart.)
  11. Satoshi Ookami
    October 6th, 2012 11:49 PM
    Satoshi Ookami
    As you said, it's the same in the normal games
    It's the same like Ghetis' Hydreigon.
    And it add to difficulty a bit =)
    As for the shinies. They aren't exactly present as Wes did not bother adding shiny pallete.
    I'm not planning to change what Wesley did.
  12. Cyclone
    October 6th, 2012 7:35 PM
    Just around the Imatari Islands now and previewed it via the video - how the heck did the opponents get a Lv.33 Eelektross? I would expect that thing to be a Shiny or something to go with a forced evolution theory (no, really, look at the colour of the Shiny sprites for Eelektross, lighter shade to go with colouration not being able to complete on the evolved form). Eelektrik itself can't be obtained until Lv.39, I wonder if battling the execs like this would have been better saved for later given the Pokémon in their possession. Maybe introducing that Pokémon in battle at Dardusk in that tower would have been a good idea, you could see them having that Pokémon at Lv.39 or Lv.40 at that point. Did Pokémon evolve at earlier levels back in Gen. III or something? (That would make sense.)

    (And yes, I know it happens in the real games too...I don't like it there either. LMAO)

    And yeah, I know you're probably not changing in-game battles or anything else, but I just wanted to see if I'm the only one who noticed that. LMAO Currently finishing the walkthrough segment for 408 and my level-up training before moving on (got the three starters in my party at Lv.31 in fact, and a few 30s).

    I hope the Electric Gym has Eelektross with Levitate! :D
  13. Satoshi Ookami
    October 5th, 2012 12:51 AM
    Satoshi Ookami
    Yeah, I don't mind editing your version if you're only changing tiles are movement permissions.
    As for the mentioned post, yeah, I didn't know about boat going in only one direction at that time.
    As I mentioned, I'll be fixing that.
  14. Cyclone
    October 4th, 2012 6:44 AM
    Just FTR...I stumbled upon this old post...and yes, I think you are still able to proceed without having the second badge as I don't see any other scripts on the map. If you ever decide to do something about that (as per Snakebyte on the final release you will make any future changes), get the updated ROM from me as I'm fixing tile errors and permissions errors; heck, just found a new one in 408. Obviously if I do something like this I'll just create a C path back to where I need to be (just for fun, and for mapping purposes, I went into Seanport City via the beach by skipping across rocks; also, walking on water like Jesus causes Tentacool to battle you as if you were surfing...and yes, I've known a while), but players in general won't do this and abandon or restart their games. Might be good to put it in.
  15. Satoshi Ookami
    August 11th, 2012 6:39 AM
    Satoshi Ookami
    That is your point of view I will not accept

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