Conversation Between Patrick and Spinosaurus
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  1. Spinosaurus
    February 1st, 2013 4:30 PM
    Spinosaurus
    Wait what balancing game? *checks* oh holy crap I never realized it's palm tree paradise. I played Warioware mega microgames first so I never realized most of them until I played it again a bit before christmas haha, which is obviously after I finally beat Wario Land 4.

    Wario World? I never played it, but I heard it's really repetitive and easy. Can't judge myself since I never played it, but I'm not fond of the idea of a 3D Wario Land. I DO plan on giving it a try, because I'm that much of a Wario fan. :x I did try Wario: Master of Disguise, and while mediocre, I like the concept of it.

    You should definitely start with 4. Of all the games in the series, it's the easiest to get into, and aged the best and has the best controlling Wario. Visually, it also really holds up with its crude artstyle. (Quite similar to Mega Microgames actually. You don't see it in other Wario Land games.) There's also 3 Warioware like minigames if you care. :P

    It was because of use of mercury iirc? I know there are people who imported the game though, so I dunno. I don't care about SHMUPs sadly. :( We do have Another Code R and The Last Window though, as obscure as they are. (love love LOVE Cing.)

    You Americans at least don't have to wait for Atlus or Metal Gear Solid games.

    I haven't played a single series but Wario's appearance in three coupled with the fact that it's the first game to introduce two playable characters made me really intrigued by it. There's also good ton of dialog, and I want to test my Japanese reading skills. :P That, and I want a solid, unique platformer on my GBA.
  2. Patrick
    February 1st, 2013 4:08 PM
    Patrick
    Whoa. Well that's mind blowing. Maybe that's why it seemed like the first game's little diddies were the best. WWMM being new, I guess they didn't really try to establish a WarioWare sound yet, and just used more inspiration from the Wario Land series. I also already knew about the balancing game from Jimmy's sports being a song from the Wario series.

    Haha, and why is the featured video "The worst female Goalkeeper ever"?

    I'm going to have to try these games. I always wanted to, but I guess I kept putting it off. I'll start with 4, though, based off of your recommendation.

    Wasn't there one for the Gamecube, though? Made by Treasure or something? That alone sounds promising, though I think I recall people saying it wasn't part if the Land series.

    Now that I think of it, I do recall that Twisted was never realized in Europe. I dunno why, though. Well, if it makes you feel better, you guys get SHUMPs that I wish the US had.

    I ended up importing the Parodius Collection and TwinBee Collection (as well as Salamander to round out the Konami shooter collections) for the PSP, games that I know Europe had a few entries of. I always liked more whimsical games, and TwinBee is a series I wouldn't mind seeing a revival in. I know I tend to dislike endless sequels, but I felt like TwinBee never really ended properly. Unless it's one of those "and the adventure continues on, even if you're not with us" sort of things. Or cancelled before they could reach the penultimate game, anyway.

    I think you also have some DoDonPachi games I feel like I need to try. :|

    Starfy, hmmm. I liked what I was able to play with the very first game (though, being a ROM, it locked itself after a certain point), and I really enjoyed what little of the story I could get, but when they finally localized the DS Starfy game... well, I can't remember any of it. I feel like perhaps it's a weak entry in the series? I didn't have that same connection I felt from the first game, and I'm sure it got better in the immediate sequels. Maybe the DS game is a victim of the series starting to hit sequelitis? Maybe I'm just weird and the DS game is one of the better ones?

    That's a series I'm gonna need to try out again from scratch.
  3. Spinosaurus
    February 1st, 2013 2:51 PM
    Spinosaurus
    I keep hearing about how good Twsited is, but I never had the chance to play it, living in Europe and all. ;( I suppose I could import it? Legal issues aside, of course. I'll see if I can.
    I only own the original and DIY. I played touched and smooth moves however, and I especially liked the latter. I'm thinking of buying it personally, because I had a lot of fun with it when my cousin had it and I'm in a Wii mood haha. Warioware is really a one of a kind series. One of its biggest strengths imo is the soundtrack. The original especially is phenomenal! Since I'm assuming you like it as well, you should check out Wario land 4's OST. It's from the same composer, and Mega Microgames actually borrowed a lot of from that game. Does this in particular sound familiar to you? Artstyle is also a big one.

    I'll be frank, if it weren't for Wario Land 4 (which is my favorite game in general), I probably wouldn't have cared much about the series. I made a whole post about that game and why I like it. As much as I like all other Wario Land games, they don't even come close to 4. Shake It is the closest in its formula, but I fear it's arguably the weakest of the games. The production value, as you mentioned, is great, with endearing aesthetics, music and personality. The problem is with the gameplay in general: Wario feels more stiff and sluggish (It's maybe that I'm used Wario Land 4, which is pretty fast-paced and has a sprint button), and the level design and difficulty only really show their fruits when you actually go for a challenge, otherwise it's a repetitive and easy experience. It's still a solid entry regardless, and I personally rank it higher than Wario land 1 and equal to 2 so far. I'd give one of the games a spin though, if you have the time. They're all completely different and experimental in a way. Wario Land 1 is the most linear, and it's a more traditional platformer akin to Super Mario Bros but "Wario"-tized and has elements of a beat em ups. Wario Land 2 is a huge huge game with so many different paths to take and it emphasizes puzzles and exploration, although it is the only game without a world map. (until you beat the game once that is.) Wario Land 3 is smaller in comparison, but is a Metroidvania with a day/night system that can change a level in its world map entirely. Wario Land 4 is perhaps the shortest of them all if you don't consider the difficulty system which is imo a huge part of the game, and it's an off beat platformer but very fast-paced and has more action than the more puzzle oriented predecessors. (It has the best level design though, and as a matter of fact the game that makes most use of the enemies to your advantage.) Wario Land Shake It! has the same exact formula of 4 but a different core in that it's a more relaxed and a vast game, without the action and pacing of 4. (Now that I think about it, it feels a lot like Wario Land 2, but with Wario Land 4's formula.) It's also the first Wario Land since 1 to not have the shoulder bash -> slide cancel. :''''(


    Rhythm Tengoku is my first ever import haha. I might import the Ouendan games and Densetsu no Starfy 3 though, those games are actually kinda cheap today.
  4. Patrick
    February 1st, 2013 1:30 PM
    Patrick
    WarioWare: Mega Microgames (the first one, so the one you're talking about) is also my favorite, with Twisted and DIY following behind. The thing about the first one, is that I feel like it has a certain charm that the rest of them don't have in how crude it is (aesthetically). It's like watching the pilot of a cartoon. Specifically a cartoon that got a huge art shift (so I guess something like Tracey Ullman Simpsons to the series itself). Mega Microgames and Tengoku GBA are very very much alike, in that they seem to be the only games in the series to utilize full control of most of the buttons on the GBA, so it gives them a lot more range. I also liked the little jingles in Mega Microgames.

    Twisted and DIY are good for separate reasons. Twisted is probably the most content heavy WW in the series, with some really fun games, but the music in them isn't memorable. DIY is only good if you're a content creator, which I was long enough to make like 26 games, but I made sure there were as quality as I could make them, and most of them use music from the first game. Touched I believe is the only other one I've played, and it's kind of weak being a launch title, but the sound quality is surprisingly high.

    I remember you reading in a lot of areas that Wario Land is your favorite game, or series of games. Which one, though? I wish I tried Shake-It, to be honest. If nothing else, I admired the production values on that one. I'd say we need more games like that, but I'm also fully aware of the time and cost of such things, unfortunately.

    Every game I've ever imported never let me down, but it's usually because I'm already familiar with the franchise. Mother 3 was probably the best import choice I've made to date, even if I couldn't read a bit of it and had to print out a guide from GameFAQs to play alongside it. Haha, who knew Tomato and the rest would actually finish the fan translation? And that was years ago at this point. Sheesh, that's a good way to date myself. As for R.Tengoku, can't remember how much I paid, but what you're paying sounds about right. It was less expensive than I thought, I can say that much. But it was still in print back then, or at least Play-Asia still had copies, anyway.
  5. Spinosaurus
    January 28th, 2013 12:06 PM
    Spinosaurus
    You also like Wario Ware? The original is one of my favorite games of all time, there's just so much content stuck in a little cartridge! When it comes to Nintendo franchises (and generally, really), nothing beats Wario Land for me, but I hold a special place for Rhythm Heaven. I haven't seen a single game bring together a lot of related kids like Rhythm Heaven Fever did. Definitely gonna check the link.

    Between the Wii and DS games I personally prefer the former (I think Elite Beat Agents has the DS game "beat" for the best DS game), but I haven't tried the original yet. I will soon though, as I just imported it. :) Was a bit expensive, especially for a used copy, (40 euro/50 dollars) but I have no doubt it's worth the price. (I paid about the same price or more for games that did not deserve my time anyway...still sore about Skyrim and Halo 4.)

    EDIT: Watched the animation. Loved the freeze frame nod! Haha, absolutely was about to laugh on that one. Love Tonight.
  6. Patrick
    January 28th, 2013 10:04 AM
    Patrick
    Yessir, probably my favorite Nintendo franchise to date, probably tied with Wario Ware. Actually, I just got finished roughing out a(nother) animation based on Rhythm Heaven's music. I stuck a link to it in my gallery, if you're interested.

    All 3 of 'em a pretty solid, but the DS game is probably my least favorite of a overall great bunch. Man I wish I had my Wii right now...
  7. Spinosaurus
    January 24th, 2013 1:55 PM
    Spinosaurus
    Rhythm Heaven fan? You're a good person.