Conversation Between sims796 and Anti
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June 28th, 2008 5:10 PMAntiOh I see what you're trying to say.
I'm not saying I know exactly what these people go through breeding and that I know just how many hours they've logged and whatever...no. Not trying to say that.
I do understand the hard work and time that a player needs to put into the game to make a good team, not each case (like ac's) specifically.
Notice every time we argue it's some kind of communication issue lol -
June 28th, 2008 4:39 PMsims796My bad, I was saying it works without, but with, it's an instant counter. My fault, misworded
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June 28th, 2008 4:38 PMsims796And for the last time, I am saying it can handle it without Tbolt. Read what I said again.
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June 28th, 2008 4:37 PMsims796And it is comments like those that leads people to say you don't understand. Many people quit wifi forthe mere fact of breeding. Just because it takes YOU a few days or 50 hours to build a team, doesn't mean it is the same for everyone. You keep using your views as a sole basis, which is a bit insulting. I am not exaggerating a thing, as more people can even agree with me on this. To insult players by saying "if you don't have the time, you shouldn't play" shows you don't have the same experience. That is why they have to settle on things. You don't really have the same responsibilites others may have, regardless of the things you face in real life, and they shouldn't play because of that?
And how many times do I have to say it? I just said the mechanics are the same. But the experience isn't.
i find wifi easier. Can you go in my head & share the same experiences? Can youreally tell me they are the same? Same style of gameplay, yeah.
You have some understading, now multiply that. You only had to breed for friends. I can't imagine what otheres had to go through. Or ther free time. -
June 28th, 2008 4:25 PMAntiI did actually recognize there is a difference, but you're REALLY exaggerating it. Breeding is essentially the same in DP as it was in RSE. I know just as well as you do the work it takes to get a well-IVed team - mine took over 50 hours to perfect.
IF you don't have spare time, then play on shoddy. Options are available for those who don't have spare time (trading, shoddy especially). "Not having enough time" is a lame excuse. If you don't have a lot of time, then wifi battling isn't for you.
Getting on shoddy is really easy, all you do is hit a few buttons and bam, you're on. I know you have trouble with your connection sims, but 99% of shoddy users have no troubles getting on.
I do understand what you guys on wifi go through. How would you even know if I understand it or not? It doesn't take that long to soft-reset for legends either - I got my Regice with amazing IVs and nature in just two days.
The mechanics are the same. They don't change at all. It's not like fire is all of a sudden immune to ground types. No. The mechanics are the same. IVs change the game (especially with speed ties and stuff like that), but the difference isn't that huge. I recognize that there is a difference, but it really isn't that big when it comes to the actual battles.
Of course I get that WiFi requires a lot more time and patience, and I get that. I honestly don't understand why you don't think I understand it because I do ._. -
June 28th, 2008 4:15 PMsims796As for Weezing & Gya, Gya doesn't do enough damage, with or without a DD under his belt. If it waste time to Taunt you, you get hurt.It's just about a 4HKO with that, and Gya must attack at all times for a 3HKO.
Weezing is an instant counter with T-bolt. -
June 28th, 2008 4:13 PMsims796If you say that, you really dont know. Much less than you think. Trades are few & far between. The same mechanics. Same pokes, definately not. Breeding for Ruby battles are much different than breeding for wifi battles, due to the fact that you have to be more perfect for todays metagame. Many pokes need exact ivs, and those few off IV's can cost you a crutial OHKO. My Raichu funtions with 10 less Sp.Atk IV's, because it had perfect speed, which is much moar important. I have also outsped afew foolish Chomps, who funtions with less speed (max attack though) because of the IV's.
Trading, as I said, doesn't cut it. Along with not knowing if it's legit or not, that depends on others completely. I got a few pokes from D_A, but without him, I'd be lost. Some doesn't have the right pokes, and others want things you cannot get.
Don't think you completely understand how it is for wifiers. You know how it feels, but to say it's no real difference shows you don't really get it. some people doesn't have enough spare time, or patience, which not everyone has. I sure don't.
Plus, when actually battling, it is just easier for some to go wifi than it is to go shoddy. If you don't see what I mean by that, then you just don't understand. -
June 28th, 2008 3:54 PMAntiI understand how WiFiers operate. Before my friends became "too cool" for pokemon we actually bred for Hidden Powers and IVs and stuff (though we weren't great battlers, we all put in a lot of time so we could link battle). Tauros breeding was fail.
Besides Shaymin though, everything is the same and you can go to any forum and trade for the pokemon you need and get tutor nmoves on it and stuff. Shoddy and WiFi both play with the same mechanics and pokemon...the difference isn't all that big. There is a difference, but it's not groundbreaking.
BTW I agree Weezing covers Gyarados, I'm just saying that without Thunderbolt Gyarados wins. Always. -
June 28th, 2008 3:48 PMsims796Excuse me? What about Luvdisc vs Grumpig/Vileplume? Is that not log worthy?
Bah, not to say you were wrong (though I still disagree with Weezing vs Gya), butwifi & shoddy aren't really all the same. Along with IV's not being perfect, you can sometimes take comfort in a poke not having a killer hidden power. Some pokes just plain can't be used (Event Pokes specifially,) even if we wanted. Same goes for tutor moves. For some, Seismec Toss Blissey can't be caught And unfortunately for some, certain pokes are just unobtainable. I don't even wanna bother trying to soft reset for Cressila, and I can't for the other three nymphs, as I caught them prior my learnings of the metagame. Heatran is the only poke I wanna try out.
Along with that, I find shoddy just a whole different ball game. I don't know why. Outside of the animations,, I find wifi so much easier, and more fun. I don't know why, but prediction and basic moves just seems so less complex. -
June 26th, 2008 5:53 PMsims796Sorry, fracking dang shoddy server won't work here in this school. Damn. We must prospone until next week.
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June 26th, 2008 5:32 PMsims796What the hell is wrong with this? Why won't it load?
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June 26th, 2008 5:19 PMAntistorm is blowing over yay
I can wait. I have Black Sabbath to keep me company until then :P
My team is really Vileplume weak though which scares me :( -
June 26th, 2008 5:17 PMsims796Annoying! The damn thing is freezing up!
Bah, gimme a minute, I'll fix it. Be there in less than five. -
June 26th, 2008 5:16 PMAntioops responded in my profile :P
I'm on ABYAY's server ;) -
June 26th, 2008 5:14 PMsims796Scary. Alright, which server are you on? I don't like guessing.

