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January 4th, 2016 9:05 AMIceMhm, agreed
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January 4th, 2016 9:02 AMBardothrenToo true. However, I am of the mindset that all opinions are worth consideration, for no opinion is entirely wrong.
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January 4th, 2016 8:43 AMIceI think that's just religion in general. People don't seem to agree on it that much :p Especially in writing it can be given a way looser interpretation, because it's the writer's view of it, instead of the view of a specific religious scholar.
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January 4th, 2016 8:33 AMBardothrenThere's many different ways to interpret the protestant ethic. I employed the interpretation more widely used when applied to capitalism, that focuses on the material aspect of the protestant ethic.
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January 4th, 2016 8:23 AMIceI was thought it in history class. It's a really big part of Dutch history, considering we were a very Calvinistic country historically, and the predestination is a very important part of that. The way I got it thought is that from birth your predestined, and prosperity through hard work is just a reflection of your predestination. But, I haven't read Robinson Crusoe, so if it's Lutheran work ethic, predestination has less emphasis, and working hard is more important. The Lutheran version is a bit confusing to me, tho, as it had way less of an emphasis in my classes, haha
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January 4th, 2016 8:08 AMBardothrenAh, I see. I was taught the protestant ethic through its significance in Robinson Crusoe. There, the emphasis is less on predestination and more on god's favor through prosperity.
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January 4th, 2016 7:51 AMIceI think it's the language barrier popping up in the argument there, haha. The commonly used Dutch term for the work ethic is the predestination teachings, while the protestant working ethic is a term we use way waaay less
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January 4th, 2016 7:44 AMBardothrenA quick google search told me there isn't a difference. I got confuddled by your emphasis on predestination, a topic part of this ethic, but not relevant to the argument. Here's a quick quote from wikipedia:
Since it was impossible to know who was predestined, the notion developed that it might be possible to discern that a person was elect (predestined) by observing their way of life. Hard work and frugality, as well as social success and wealth, were thought to be two important consequences of being one of the electI shall amend my argument, thanks for bringing this to my attention. -
January 4th, 2016 7:41 AMIceSince we're continuing this argument, the protestant ethic I referred to doesn't involve predestination. I refer to the Protestant Work ethicThis got me incredibly curious, but I didn't think it was appropriate to bring up in the thread. I always thought these two were incredibly alike subjects. What's the difference?
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July 31st, 2015 11:15 AMBardothrenI've got a bit on my plate right now. Feel free to take me off the list.
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July 31st, 2015 11:13 AMIceHey, can I still assume you'll post in Venice, or should I take you out of the playerlist? You can always take a break and sign up for a later arc.
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June 5th, 2015 6:36 AMBardothrenI'm not usually on Skype because I don't usually have a use for it. I'm on it now, and shall remain so.
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June 5th, 2015 6:11 AMIceI added you to the Venice Skype group. I was planning to do it when we would be online at the same time, but you don't seem to be very active on it, haha. Anyway, you're added now.
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May 17th, 2015 7:10 AMBardothrenUsername Bardothren. Let me know when the chat's happening.
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May 17th, 2015 7:02 AMBardothrenWell, I decided to install Skype anyways. I'll let you know when I'm finished.


