Conversation Between Bardothren and Ice
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  1. Ice
    January 4th, 2016 9:05 AM
    Ice
    Mhm, agreed
  2. Bardothren
    January 4th, 2016 9:02 AM
    Bardothren
    Too true. However, I am of the mindset that all opinions are worth consideration, for no opinion is entirely wrong.
  3. Ice
    January 4th, 2016 8:43 AM
    Ice
    I think that's just religion in general. People don't seem to agree on it that much :p Especially in writing it can be given a way looser interpretation, because it's the writer's view of it, instead of the view of a specific religious scholar.
  4. Bardothren
    January 4th, 2016 8:33 AM
    Bardothren
    There's many different ways to interpret the protestant ethic. I employed the interpretation more widely used when applied to capitalism, that focuses on the material aspect of the protestant ethic.
  5. Ice
    January 4th, 2016 8:23 AM
    Ice
    I was thought it in history class. It's a really big part of Dutch history, considering we were a very Calvinistic country historically, and the predestination is a very important part of that. The way I got it thought is that from birth your predestined, and prosperity through hard work is just a reflection of your predestination. But, I haven't read Robinson Crusoe, so if it's Lutheran work ethic, predestination has less emphasis, and working hard is more important. The Lutheran version is a bit confusing to me, tho, as it had way less of an emphasis in my classes, haha
  6. Bardothren
    January 4th, 2016 8:08 AM
    Bardothren
    Ah, I see. I was taught the protestant ethic through its significance in Robinson Crusoe. There, the emphasis is less on predestination and more on god's favor through prosperity.
  7. Ice
    January 4th, 2016 7:51 AM
    Ice
    I think it's the language barrier popping up in the argument there, haha. The commonly used Dutch term for the work ethic is the predestination teachings, while the protestant working ethic is a term we use way waaay less
  8. Bardothren
    January 4th, 2016 7:44 AM
    Bardothren
    A quick google search told me there isn't a difference. I got confuddled by your emphasis on predestination, a topic part of this ethic, but not relevant to the argument. Here's a quick quote from wikipedia:
    Since it was impossible to know who was predestined, the notion developed that it might be possible to discern that a person was elect (predestined) by observing their way of life. Hard work and frugality, as well as social success and wealth, were thought to be two important consequences of being one of the elect
    I shall amend my argument, thanks for bringing this to my attention.
  9. Ice
    January 4th, 2016 7:41 AM
    Ice
    Since we're continuing this argument, the protestant ethic I referred to doesn't involve predestination. I refer to the Protestant Work ethic
    This got me incredibly curious, but I didn't think it was appropriate to bring up in the thread. I always thought these two were incredibly alike subjects. What's the difference?
  10. Bardothren
    July 31st, 2015 11:15 AM
    Bardothren
    I've got a bit on my plate right now. Feel free to take me off the list.
  11. Ice
    July 31st, 2015 11:13 AM
    Ice
    Hey, can I still assume you'll post in Venice, or should I take you out of the playerlist? You can always take a break and sign up for a later arc.
  12. Bardothren
    June 5th, 2015 6:36 AM
    Bardothren
    I'm not usually on Skype because I don't usually have a use for it. I'm on it now, and shall remain so.
  13. Ice
    June 5th, 2015 6:11 AM
    Ice
    I added you to the Venice Skype group. I was planning to do it when we would be online at the same time, but you don't seem to be very active on it, haha. Anyway, you're added now.
  14. Bardothren
    May 17th, 2015 7:10 AM
    Bardothren
    Username Bardothren. Let me know when the chat's happening.
  15. Bardothren
    May 17th, 2015 7:02 AM
    Bardothren
    Well, I decided to install Skype anyways. I'll let you know when I'm finished.