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  1. bobandbill
    December 21st, 2016 8:03 PM
    bobandbill
    Woo, presents! Bugger with working on Christmas Eve and the day after though. My family mostly celebrate on the 24th/25th.

    Speaking of, my plans are being with family for the period, am already up here.

    It has been hot in parts of Australia, but here not too bad considering typical Australian summers. We had two particularly hot days a couple weeks ago, but the rest has been okay, or even too cold for summer standards, which is weird.
  2. icomeanon6
    December 20th, 2016 8:02 PM
    icomeanon6
    I see you had a birthday sorta recently, so happy belated birthday!

    Episode 17:

    This episode features the triumphant return of Yamato's dad and the TV station crew, definitely some of my favorite adult characters from Adventure. These poor guys can't catch a break. I love how the guy in the bandana's angst over the ghost has as much to do with his show's encroaching deadline as with actual fear of the ghost. That fun stuff aside, the only important element in this episode is Wizarmon's cryptic hint, which sets up that there will be villains after Ken, that Ken will probably become a good guy (maybe this is less obvious if you haven't seen the show), and something to do with kindness and "the golden light" (Ken's Crest and Magnamon's digimental). Main character-wise this episode does little beyond re-establishing that Yamato and Takeru are close and reminding the viewers of their parents' situation. I did like the shot immediately after when Wizarmon and Tailmon try to touch hands and can't. The attempted touch is pretty standard for seeing-a-dead-friend-again scenes, but I thought the look of disappointment and resignation on Wizarmon's face as he floats away elevated it a bit. I always thought they managed to do a lot with a little when it came to Wizarmon's expressions in Adventure and this episode.

    Btw, here's a comparison to show how padded the story is in 02 vs. Adventure. By this point in 02 they still haven't confronted the Kaiser all that directly, and by this point in Adventure they had already defeated Devimon and were halfway through the Etemon episodes.
  3. bobandbill
    December 16th, 2016 5:33 AM
    bobandbill
    Get up to much for it? And any Christmas plans?
  4. Sheep
    December 15th, 2016 7:31 PM
    Sheep
    happy bday <3
  5. Song of Time
    December 15th, 2016 2:32 PM
    Song of Time
    Astyyyyy! Happy Birthday! :D I hope you've been doing well as of late! ^__^
  6. bobandbill
    December 14th, 2016 10:57 PM
    bobandbill
    Happy birthday, Astinus!
  7. icomeanon6
    December 7th, 2016 6:01 PM
    icomeanon6
    Episode 16:

    This is the one where Iori gets his Digimental of Sincerity (Reliability in the dub, and "Faithfulness" in the subs I'm using, but I'll be calling it Sincerity). There are a few things I like here, for example when they're trying to get Iori to pick up the Digimental and he gives a bunch of other excuses first before finally admitting to them (and himself!) that he doesn't think he deserves it because he just told a lie. Also, it's funny how Daisuke and V-mon are the only ones who don't catch on to the rigged game of straws. One thing I think could have been handled better is Jou's lesson for Iori about good/bad lies. It seemed sort of hand-wavy, like "Eh, sometimes lying's okay," where I think the more truthful lesson is that the essence of a "lie" has more to do with malicious intent than literal correctness. I think we need different words to distinguish "malicous lies," "benevolent oversimplifications," "telling a factual truth with malicious intent to deceive," etc. I may be asking too much from a fifteen-second scene in a kids' show, though. Crest fits Iori perfectly, definitely a better justification offered than with Friendship and Purity. That aside, Submarimon's special attacks look like the weakest nonsense ever. Shooting air and water while underwater, seriously?
  8. icomeanon6
    November 27th, 2016 7:01 PM
    icomeanon6
    I think there were four evolution sequences in a row, which is pretty shameful. I forgot about ShogunGekomon's hair; that makes more sense.

    The plot bunny's been going pretty slowly for what I think is an okay reason: Pokemon Moon. :) I'm doing a blind Nuzlocke and coming up on the Elite Four. And on Tuesday Final Fantasy XV comes out, which probably won't help matters.

    Good luck with 02 redux redux!
  9. icomeanon6
    November 23rd, 2016 1:53 PM
    icomeanon6
    Thanksgiving has stuffing and Zero Two has filler. I prefer Thanksgiving.

    Episode 15:

    This is the one where they go to the Edo-themed town with the Gekomon, Tamamon, Floramon, etc. It's basically the Wild West episode but not as weird. I guess there's a little character work here, though. We see a sliver of Hawkmon's (Shurimon's) honor code in how he and Igamon keep fighting even after the tower goes down, but feels more like a fleeting, isolated moment than actual development. I suspect Japanese viewers might get more out of this episode with culture-specific references/jokes; for example there's this bit where they say goodbye and Daisuke speaks in what I assume is formal, period-appropriate mode. Miyako calls it "embarrassing," so maybe he's getting it hilariously wrong? Hard to tell when you don't speak Japanese. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  10. icomeanon6
    November 17th, 2016 7:37 PM
    icomeanon6
    Stop watching? Heck no, I'm committed now. Especially now that you tell me all that insane stuff I had totally forgotten about Michael and his family I have to keep watching.

    I think that's exactly why they gave Miyako Love and Purity, and to that, I shrug. For what it's worth, Miyako is outspoken, assertive, and self-driven in a way that flies in the face of the traditional Japanese feminine ideal, so I'm inclined to give the writers a pass for some lingering biases in how they write girls. I wish they'd thought a little harder about what the crests really mean and why their first instinct might be to give the new girl the old girls' crests, but at least they were trying (probably).

    As for what Purity means for a Chosen Child in particular, I have some thoughts on this but they hinge on episodes yet to come and I want to rewatch them first to make sure I'm remembering right.

    Saw you like'd my plot bunny. :) I'm trying to outline it right now. Really, really want to get it right if I go through with it.
  11. icomeanon6
    November 14th, 2016 7:09 PM
    icomeanon6
    It is with deep regret that I come to inform you that after episode 13 Digimon Adventure 02 immediately returns to being stupid. :(

    Episode 14:

    This episode contains the most glaring plot hole so far, which is why didn't the new Chosen Children remember about Digimon from the global disaster three years prior? Miyako even knew Diablomon's name! (Despite being a plot-hole this is also good detail-work as we first saw Miyako in Our War Game.) All that dumbness aside, the main event is Miyako getting the Digimental of Purity. This is a weird case where the dub writing honestly made more sense: Miyako got the Digimental by being sincere about an unflattering truth about herself (she doesn't trust ugly-looking folks). I guess the moral here is that sometimes Purity makes you shallow? This episode isn't making me rethink my stance that Purity and Knowledge should have been swapped between Miyako and Iori.

    A few more little things: seeing Digitamamon getting shuriken'd in the eyes made me squirm. It looked way more brutal than it actually was considering Digitamamon is made of space or something? As for Michael, I'm always amused to see depictions of Americans in Japanese media. It's really something that Mimi's friends with a an American middle-schooler who can carry $87+ in cash with him and speaks fluent Japanese (I was wondering for a second if he might have Japanese parents and is just drawn like any other anime character, but his combination of name, hair, and eye color suggests he's probably supposed to be white. Analyzing ethnicity in children's anime character design is serious business). It would have been a truly inspired touch if Betamon said "digivolves to" instead of "shinka," call it a missed opportunity. Also, Digitamamon's attack should have at least broken Mimi's ribs.
  12. bobandbill
    November 5th, 2016 5:05 PM
    bobandbill
    Cheers, Astinus! And yay, SA emote.
  13. icomeanon6
    November 5th, 2016 4:29 PM
    icomeanon6
    I have lots of positive words to say about Lost Boys, so I'll want some time to consolidate my thoughts on it.

    And huh, I didn't realize it'd been that long since I watched an episode. Card can wait; I have a lot of words to say about the Dark Ocean, too.

    Episode 13:

    There is so much going on in this episode that it's utterly baffling how little it has to do with the rest of the show. I'd forgotten all about the stuff with Hikari's hangups over Taichi: she feels helpless without him, and subconsciously feels that she's a disappointment to him (see also in Adventure when she apologizes to him after falling ill when she's like four). Correspondingly, there's Takeru's frustration with the fact that she's so emotionally dependent on her brother--as opposed to on him, which possibly introduces an unrequited-love angle to their relationship. To my knowledge none of this character development ever comes back. Then there's the Dark Ocean itself. Where is it? What is it? Why is it? I seem to remember that later the Dark Ocean is shown to be what corrupts Ken's digivice, but going by this episode Ken and his Digivice would seem to be foreign to the Dark Ocean, which is controlled by Dagomon. Speaking of Dagomon, what are his followers if they're not Digimon? Also, they want to mate with Hikari so that their offspring can defeat the "new god" Ken, which is the creepiest damn idea in all of Digimon, including Tamers.

    The most frustrating thing about all this is that this episode is basically a blueprint for what they could and should have done with Hikari's character (so what follows is less canon and more my understanding of her character as extrapolated from this episode). Hikari is a medium, which makes her the most suitable for the nebulous and supernatural Crest of Light; but in this episode there's a flip-side to that. Her closeness to the world of Light also makes her closer to the world of Darkness, perhaps even more so than Ken is. In these sorts of stories it's never the middling, gray-toned characters who are in the most danger of becoming corrupted and powerfully evil; it's always the purest, brightest ones. This idea runs particularly deep in Western culture, where demons are commonly understood to be fallen angels. To someone like Hikari the choice between good and evil is tangible rather than abstract, and the sensation of the two sides spiritually and physically pulling her is frightening. And perhaps the new pull from Dagomon--which is similar to but distinct from the pull from the more conventional evils--is where it all starts to be too much for her. Perhaps the pull from the good side is starting to feel just as nauseating as the pull from the bad (see the negative feelings she has regarding Taichi and Takeru in this episode). Will Hikari ever truly be her own person, free from visions/being possessed/impossible expectations, or is this her fate? There's a mountain of potential here, and from what I remember they totally squander it and Hikari goes back to being a boring Mary Sue with episode 14.

    I haven't even mentioned yet how tense and atmospheric this episode is compared to what came before it. Why oh why couldn't Chiaki J. Konaka have been involved with more episodes of 02 beyond this one? Just contrast this with the episode that immediately precedes it and think about what might have been. In some universe the final antagonist of 02 was the Cthulhu-stand-in Dagomon, or God-forbid Dagomon's Ultimate-level form. Now there's an apocalyptic showdown I'd be interested in seeing.

    tl;dr: This is the most interesting and probably the best episode of 02. Only 37 more episodes until Konaka returns to save Digimon from itself! :D
  14. icomeanon6
    October 24th, 2016 5:17 PM
    icomeanon6
    Episode 12:

    This is the wild west one. It's certainly not good, but it manages at least to be weird. There's absolutely nothing to say character- or plot-wise, so I'll just highlight some of its weirdness: 1) The animation is even cheaper and jankier than usual, but they still try for some visual humor, like Miyako and Iori sneaking into school with Poromon and Upamon stuck under their shirts (because looking like pregnant elementary schoolers is way less conspicuous than looking like they have stuffed animals). 2) Fox Kids was probably immensely relieved that for once the obvious replacement of milk for beer was present in the original Japanese cut. 3) A lot of the music is wild-west-style, and I think it was only used in this episode which would be a head-scratching use of budget for such a cheap show. 4) Episode 11's preview for this episode is cropped wide-screen to look more like an actual Spaghetti Western (Ramen Western? *gets shot*), but the episode itself is full-screen, which makes me wonder if they wanted to air it cropped but the idea got axed.

    tl;dr: It's filler. Yawn.
  15. icomeanon6
    October 17th, 2016 4:04 PM
    icomeanon6
    No worries re: disappearance--you've got to put life first. And I'm hardly one to complain about people disappearing suddenly. >_>

    Btw, I think I'll resume my rewatch of 02 next week. This week I'm trying to slap together a draft for the collaboration thing with Art & Design since apparently they're short on stories and needed to extend the deadline.

    Hey thanks, you're a champ! :D Looking forward to your thoughts.

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