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  1. weedle_mchairybug
    February 5th, 2018 4:58 AM
    weedle_mchairybug
    Sorry for not responding earlier, life got in the way.

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    I agree. If they just *had* to keep the TRio around, they needed to find some way to make them work with the regional villain plots instead of just forcing Team Rocket into every region at the expense of the current villains. Why even bother to have evil teams besides Team Rocket if they're never going to get the proper spotlight in their own gen?
    No kidding. It also doesn't help that Team Rocket doesn't even come across as even remotely threatening in AG or DP to make up for it. With all due respect to Takeshi Shudo, his decision for keeping them in due to their being his favorite characters was about as short sighted of a decision as JJ Abrams failure to actually reunite Luke, Leia, and Han in The Force Awakens (especially in light of Carrie Fisher's death). Still, if there's a silver lining to Sun and Moon (besides Misty and Brock returning and redeeming Gym Leaders after their trashy depiction in AG and Ash potentially winning the league this time, anyway), it's that Dogasu has heavily implied recently that this saga might be TRio's last saga.

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    To me, Ash's biggest appeal was that he was a young, dumb rookie who "wanted to be the very best," and trying to turn him into a strong older mentor type just wasn't believable, especially since he still kept on losing every League and never making any progress towards his goal. How is anyone supposed to look up to a kid who never ages and always loses?
    Agreed, especially considering that even in Best Wishes, they have hinted at time passing (just look at the Bullet Train being functional there, despite the OS strongly implying that the system wouldn't be active until "the year after next Tuesday"). If this were the Simpsons, I could understand since that show used negative continuity, and besides which had no overarching goal of the protagonists, but Ash had a Rocky-esque goal of becoming the best trainer. Though to be fair, Johto did at least have him actually increasing in rank, which is a LOT more than what occurred in Hoenn even if he still lost.

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    It'd be one thing if they had Ash win at the end of Johto and then, in Hoenn, had him play more of a "Brock" role to May (who would be the young rookie protagonist collecting badges). That way, Ash would actually be believable as a mentor since he actually succeeded as a Pokémon trainer (and presumably aged a few years), and May wouldn't have needed to be dumbed down into a stereotype to make it work.
    That definitely would have been a lot better, especially considering that her hatred of Pokémon spat in the face of the entire POINT of being a Pokémon Trainer (heck, her even needing to do Pokémon Training as an excuse to travel didn't make sense because there have been plenty of COTDs that traveled without even HAVING any Pokémon on hand. Case in point: Seymour the Scientist back in Clefairy and the Moon Stone [and believe me, if he had Pokémon on hand, he wouldn't have needed Brock and Ash to save him early in the episode]). There has been a Tumblr post that attempted to explain it, namely indicating that her hate towards Pokémon had something to do with her relationship to Norman at that time. Quite frankly, I don't buy that explanation for a few reasons. Namely, Misty and Brock had similarly bad relationships with their families, who also happened to be Gym Leaders, as well (Misty was treated as the runt of the litter, not to mention it's heavily implied her parents ditched her and her sisters while they were young and pretty much forced them to be Gym Leaders, and Brock pretty much had to care for his siblings thanks to his parents ditching them), and they didn't hate Pokémon as a result. Heck, not even Jessie and James hated Pokémon despite coming from a family background that was arguably even WORSE than the heroes' family backgrounds (James' family pretty much forced him into an arranged marriage with a sadistic dominatrix that resembled Jessie, and Jessie had to go around multiple foster homes because her mom died in the line of duty trying to capture a Mew), and bear in mind, Jessie and James were members of an organization that, at least in the games, had no qualms with outright murdering Pokémon (based on the Marowak ghost in Pokémon Tower). So no, no matter how bad her relationship with Norman may have been, it's no excuse for her hating Pokémon and pretty much trashing the entire point of the profession.

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    Even the TCG has caught the Sinnoh pandering virus. X___X

    I don't get why we're suddenly seeing such an overload of Sinnoh/Gen 4 stuff in a gen that was supposed to be about calling back to Gen 1 (and Gen 2, to a lesser extent). Remakes aren't coming anytime soon, and Gen 4 is otherwise completely irrelevant to Alola, Gen 7, and the 20th anniversary.

    The only thing I can possibly think of is that they're trying to honor the 3/DS line by looking back at the very first DS games, aka. Diamond and Pearl. With Gen 8 being confirmed for the Switch, this means that Gen 7 is the final generation to be on a dual screen handheld. That's a pretty significant transition since the games have been on the 3/DS for just over a decade now, and it'll be a major adjustment to suddenly go back to a single screen after 11 years, 4 generations, and 17 games with two screens.

    Even setting my own anti-Gen 4 biases aside, I still think it's wrong to shoehorn this stuff into a gen that's supposed to be about the anniversary of the older games. The likes of Cynthia and Looker (who are already extremely overexposed) should NOT be allowed to crowd out characters who have actually been in the series for 20 years and deserve to get their time in the spotlight like Misty and Lance.
    Like I said, I don't mind Sinnoh or Gen IV myself, but it is getting to be a bit overkill regarding the focus. I guess I'll wait until this year's E3 to find out the answer, just in case they do end up having Gen IV remakes somehow (I have my doubts that they're going to do Gen VIII soon, mostly because they would have hinted at it by now), which is the only other explanation for the odd amount of focus (wouldn't be the first time, anyway: Let's not forget that in Generation IV, they waited until after Platinum was released before they released the Gen II remakes).

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    (Plus, when was the last time those two made a canon, non-PWT appearance? Misty at least got something on the show, but Lance got horribly ripped-off. He's been there since the very beginning, was the original Dragon Master, and the first Champion to not be a rival, and yet, Gen 7 has given him nothing but the cold shoulder. This is why I consider Piplup Girl in M20 in be a giant slap in the face to him -- if any Champion's daughter is going to travel with Ash in Kanto, then it should be the daughter of the KANTO Champion, aka. the one actually relevant to the 20th anniversary and OS era.)
    Yeah, no kidding. Would have been a good time to showcase him anyways rather than waste him in favor of someone who shouldn't even be involved in any way with Gen I.

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    Right now, what I'm expecting is a mediocre rehash of M02 that ditches every OS character in favor of more Sinnoh pandering OCs. Hopefully, it flops.
    Dogasu seems to think it will underperform compared to Movie 20, so it may be a possibility that it will flop. But yeah, let's hope so, especially considering I wasn't fond of what M20 did anyways. They should have done a Path to Power-style anniversary retelling of the first episode, or at least the first saga.

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    I still can't get past SM's art style, myself. I hate how everyone looks so round, bug-eyed, and childish, and it really makes the series hard to watch. I hope Gen 8's anime goes back to the older art style.
    Agreed, though I'd probably tolerate it a bit more if they at least allowed Ash to actually pursue his goal from the start rather than forcing him out of pursuing leagues in favor of a school environment. They should get back to the old art style, with the only real change being to add in the fluidity of the new animation. That way, it would be the best of both worlds.

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    That being said, I hope we see more of Misty and Brock and get some good development for them.
    Agreed. Let's hope they appear soon. Don't want yet ANOTHER broken promise (and not even from Ash this time around). Besides, Misty needs to resume her goal anyhow, since that was her biggest desire, to be a Water Pokémon Master.
  2. Mateo
    January 30th, 2018 11:47 PM
    Mateo
    It's almost 2am now so I won't get to it tonight, but I don't have work tomorrow night, and shouldn't have much going on during the day tomorrow either, so I should definitely be able to get to it.
  3. Mateo
    January 30th, 2018 11:44 PM
    Mateo
    What happened is I am a terrible friend and got sidetracked :( I'm sorry.
  4. Mateo
    January 29th, 2018 5:49 AM
    Mateo
    Sorry about that, I got sidetracked on my days off. Will get you a reply tonight
  5. OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    January 23rd, 2018 4:39 PM
    OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    I think the Spain/Italy rumor will be true. So I at least hope that we will be able to revisit Kalos post-game.
  6. OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    January 23rd, 2018 4:34 PM
    OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    Necrozma wasn't actually part of the trio. Suicune's origins are more closely tied to the other two than Necrozma is to Lunala and Solgaleo.
  7. OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    January 22nd, 2018 9:30 PM
    OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    Half of Chobu is used to Johto already so I can see them using the area between real life Kanto and Hokkaido too alongside the other half of Chobu. Or perhaps it could use the remaining half of Chobu and the remaining southern parts of Honshu island (meaning filling the gap between Hoenn and the other original regions). Or even just the rest of Honshu plus the remaining parts of Shikoku xD. It'll give us a region bigger than the original four.

    Wonder what the theme would be for them... the non-warring legendaries thus far have been Gold-Silver and Sun-Moon which are actually symbolically connected Gold=Sun, Silver=Moon
  8. OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    January 21st, 2018 6:52 PM
    OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    If we see a return to Japan, I hope that it includes the parts that have yet to be used too.

    Or perhaps a region based on the Korean peninsula or eastern China would work nicely since they're Japan's neighbors. Kyushu (Hoenn) isn't all that far from the southern-eastern coast of Korea, so we could see a return of Hoenn (I wish) post game by ferry.

    If Japan, I want to see us going up of Johto and Kanto's maps (which in real life this hypothetical region would be based on western Honshu). We could see the Sinjoh ruins returning to hint at a Sinnoh remake as well as continuity with HgSs.
  9. OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    January 20th, 2018 11:15 PM
    OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    Likely not until the Sinnoh remakes (which in part will have it as a reference to the seasonal change between DP and P)
  10. OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    January 20th, 2018 11:14 PM
    OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    That's true.

    And if the Region is Spain or Italy then we likely won't see Seasons again.
  11. OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    January 19th, 2018 5:56 PM
    OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    That's true...

    And not to mention all the fact that Gen V and VI have only one Mega each while VII has none (and if the rumors are true, that will apply to VIII too... unless if a Sinnoh remake fixes that (but them bringing back a feature for the remakes (which aren't related to the originals) would be kind of odd... sure HgSs brought back Pokemon following, but that feature was teased in Amity Park in DPP...))
  12. Mateo
    January 19th, 2018 2:09 PM
    Mateo
    for sure, haha
  13. Mateo
    January 19th, 2018 1:32 PM
    Mateo
    Yeah, between my real job, my forum job, and real life stuff it's been a pretty busy few weeks lol! I think things are starting to calm down now, though. *knock on wood*
  14. OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    January 18th, 2018 7:23 PM
    OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
    Wonder if they'll add a new mechanic in the 8th Gen again.
  15. Mateo
    January 18th, 2018 9:17 AM
    Mateo
    Hey, sorry, yeah I've been busy af lately. And while I actually had the last few days off, I wasn't really on the forums much because I had irl stuff I needed to catch up on while I had the chance. Will try to get you a reply soon.

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