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  1. 152637??
    November 29th, 2016 6:46 PM
    152637??
    If that was a joke then, funny.
  2. Hands
    November 29th, 2016 1:42 AM
    Hands
    Apologies for keeping you waiting, was on my phone and its hard to write up a proper reply on it, and since you've taken the time to respond properly to me it's only fair I take the time to respond properly to you.

    You talk like a typical right winger, particularly the bit about "flowers who let everyone off" as that is usually a logical fallacy the right throw out in lieu of a more structured analysis of the debate. I can see from our messages here that you do in fact understand the debate and what the (majority of) the left are opposed to.

    I mean of course the police are going to have to use force, thats not the problem. It's the level of force, the reasons they used it and the aftermath that shows a massive issue with police culture in America. Mistakes will be made too (The Tamir Rice mess) but again, accountability was lacking there, even though the actual police force looked to charge their own officers. I don't even think racism plays as big of a part in police brutality as a lot of the left believe. I think a lot of these jerkwads who abuse their power would treat a white person just as badly (BLM mentions this in their goals, that police violence and brutality needs to end against white Americans too) but the system itself is racist. You're more likely to get into trouble for shooting an unarmed, non violent white American than you are if you shoot a black American.

    Ultimately, America needs to train not just their police better, but their judges and legal aides too.
  3. Rukario
    November 28th, 2016 9:46 PM
    Rukario
    fixed.
  4. Rukario
    November 28th, 2016 9:18 PM
    Rukario
    umm last time I checked I wasn't
  5. Rukario
    November 28th, 2016 7:13 PM
    Rukario
    :)
    Christmasy isn't it??
  6. Hands
    November 28th, 2016 12:58 AM
    Hands
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

    You'd be surprised at just how many guns are actually in Europe.

    You don't need to say you're on the right, it's heavily implied through your public statements. Down playing Police brutality is something only the Right Wing do for instance.

    "It is also usually ineffective" might actually be a culture thing, sure. Australia and Britain put tough (in comparison to America) controls in place and we both saw a noted drop in gun crime, but I suppose the counter to this is we never had such a noted gun culture as you to begin with. It's still pretty easy to get a shotgun here, a lot of people are just not inclined to. People who like shooting tins and targets and crap for a bit of fun and not a massive hobby use air rifles, airsoft guns or CO2 pellet pistols (I think you call them BB guns?) and those are easy to get so people seldom end up bothering pursuing actual firearms.

    Maybe this whole thing comes down to how wildly different our cultures actually are. If the Micheal Brown thing happened here, the cop that decided firing off 12 rounds because his pride was hurt would be doing time for manslaughter and for endangering the public with a firearm.

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/cops-missed-gunman-raoul-moat-1091329

    Here's a good example of what I mean by how the British police work the majority of the time. Moat had killed one person and shot two others, including a cop, who he left blinded. The Police, instead of just shooting him without fair trial or due process, attempted to talk Moat into surrendering, then attempted to disable him with a taser (which missed, likely due to how new and unused the particular model was to the British police). Moat, regardless of their efforts, killed himself anyway. But that's the real difference in training. The police only would of used their firearms, even against an armed and dangerous individual, if that was the last and/or most reasonable option.

    http://www.inquest.org.uk/statistics/fatal-police-shootings

    Here you can see how few times the Police here have had to resort to fatal force. This doesn't account for every shooting however, as the police will maim or disarm where possible.

    The key differences between our police and your police are training and accountability. I mean if the Tamir Rice thing happened here then you better believe the cop who shot the kid would be in for murder, because our Police are taught that they are enforcers of the law, not above it, not the law itself and certainly not immune to it.
  7. Hands
    November 27th, 2016 9:55 AM
    Hands
    What makes you think criminals cant get guns here? Aren't you guys on the right side of the spectrum always saying that gun control only harms law abiding owners?
  8. Hands
    November 27th, 2016 2:41 AM
    Hands
    Even with criminals like Brown there is a line. Brown was unarmed, so the cop thought it was appropriate to fire TWELVE shots into the street, with only six making the target. How is that not excessive in your eyes? What if one of those six bullets that missed brown hit someone else? At the range they were at, why did the cop feel it was smart to empty near on the entire magazine? Why did the cop not face any punishment for this?

    I'm not even gonna start with the situations like tamir rice, the pastor who was shot for breaking down (although for a rare change, the cop who murdered him actually faced the law herself) or the dude the NYPD literally choked to death or any of the other numerous cases where the victims were completely innocent.

    That doesn't happen here, our cops are able to routinely disarm dangerous people without killing them, without throwing concussive grenades into groups of unarmed protestors, without shooting 12 shots into a public street at an unarmed felon. Its not hard.
  9. Hands
    November 26th, 2016 2:51 PM
    Hands
    "fee fees"? Baby, you're the one who's so triggered that he has to keep making up statements because you cant put forward a real argument to existing statements lol.

    No one said there should never be any deaths at police hands, they said there should be no deaths at the hands of excessive police brutality. This isn't a remotely hard concept to understand.
  10. Hands
    November 26th, 2016 7:43 AM
    Hands
    "So, if you'd like, you may continue to discuss how police should not use violence, but should instead be flowers who allow anything."

    This is hands down the most asinine post I've ever read on any forum anywhere.

    I mean I cannot fathom how much cognitive dissonance you must indulge yourself in to make a multi-layered complicated discussion about unreasonable force into "SHUD CUPS B OK 2 B VIOLTN 0R SHUD AL B HIPPIES?"

    Maybe the round table isn't the place for you.
  11. HyperMorian
    November 23rd, 2016 5:54 PM
    HyperMorian
    Thanks for the birthday wish. c:
  12. d
    November 22nd, 2016 10:01 AM
    d
    can u not
  13. Jobless Tuber Music
    November 21st, 2016 1:53 PM
    Jobless Tuber Music
    Thank you sooo much!
  14. Somewhere_
    November 15th, 2016 4:29 PM
    Somewhere_
    That sucks :/

    I dont have a 3ds, either. I use a 2ds instead cause I only use it to play pokemon, so why pay for more if I'm only playing 1 game?
  15. Somewhere_
    November 14th, 2016 2:36 PM
    Somewhere_
    Interesting. Maybe ill download it!

    Will you be getting Sun or Moon?

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