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  1. Lipstick Vogue
    June 19th, 2017 6:53 AM
    Lipstick Vogue
    In all fairness to the pie man there could have been a totting up process going on. All of my pwoper nawty activity on here has kind of all blurred together over the years.
  2. Alfieri
    June 16th, 2017 12:04 PM
    Alfieri
    So what happens when someone catches you? lol
  3. Ivysaur
    June 15th, 2017 12:00 AM
    Ivysaur
    Opinium had 40 - 41. Labour exactly correct, Con wrong by 1.4%.
  4. Ivysaur
    June 14th, 2017 11:48 PM
    Ivysaur
    Hey, hey, YouGov called Canterbury and Kensington, which is fairly amazing. Hands down to them. And the current poll that gives Corbyn a lead is from Opinium, which also correctly called the result... and also did 2015, so it's quite good.

    Now to see the Maybot slowly melting down. I kinda can't wait to get my copy of this week's Private Eye and laugh a good while.
  5. Kanzler
    June 14th, 2017 7:09 PM
    Kanzler
    Hey! Can you fill me in on the election results? How is Corbyn perceived now as opposed to a couple months back?
  6. Ivysaur
    June 8th, 2017 1:27 PM
    Ivysaur
    You predicted it. Yougov nailed it. I think we both learnt a valuable lesson today.

    In my case, never stop believing. In yours, that Yougov isn't quite as muke :P
  7. Ivysaur
    May 30th, 2017 11:45 PM
    Ivysaur
    Remember your friends from YouGov? They have a pretty surreal poll on The Times today. 20-ish seat swing from Con to Lab.
  8. Logan
    May 30th, 2017 3:25 AM
    Logan
    jez hands
  9. Logan
    May 30th, 2017 3:19 AM
    Logan
    stop debating poltiics with every1 on a pokemon forum wow
  10. Somewhere_
    May 29th, 2017 4:26 PM
    Somewhere_
    I believe in a progressive income tax, which means the richer you are, the more you pay in taxes. But the current taxation system in the US results in the rich paying far more in taxes than what is actually proportional.

    I believe in capitalism, but not total economic anarchy. The farming industry suffers from the Tragedy of the Commons (something socialism really struggles with), which is why the US government actually pays farmers in the US not to produce. However, this comes at a cost: food costs more.

    But if you absolutely despise overproduction, you should also hate socialism. With the lack of economic calculation, whomever is in charge of a factory must overproduce to appear productive. Look no further than the USSR, which while not technically socialism, suffered from the same issues as a totally socialist society. They literally couldn't even decide how much goods should cost without looking at the capitalist countries' prices.

    Capitalism hasn't worked? Are you denying the incredible technological and medical achievements? The massive increase in wealth? Real income has been rising, contrary to popular belief. And please dont list things that capitalism has done wrong that can easily be blamed on government, such as imperialism. For example, mperialism was government- it relied on taxation, which is siphoned off private industry and not an example of capitalism.

    Do you believe trade increases wealth?
  11. Somewhere_
    May 29th, 2017 12:57 PM
    Somewhere_
    https://taxfoundation.org/how-scandinavian-countries-pay-their-government-spending/

    its probably because when I put it in parenthesis, it included the parenthesis as part of the link. Now it should work, and its better than wikipedia lol

    Do you know how much is actually lost in these dodgy offshore shenanigans? I dont think its nearly as common as people think it is because the rich in the US still contribute a hugely disproportionate amount to government revenue despite them being a disproportionately smaller portion of the US economy.

    Im not familiar with tomorrowland haha. But you dont know how productive you have actually been because time, labor, etc are not being calculated. This will lead to either overproduction, which isn't sustainable, or underproduction, which is also is not sustainable. The problem is that we live in a world with scarcity, which means different things must be prioritized. Which means there is a cost to doing things. Communism pretends scarcity doesnt exist. Because you aren't accounting for cost or profit, you cannot possible have a sustainable system.

    Unless I'm missing something?
  12. Somewhere_
    May 29th, 2017 12:29 PM
    Somewhere_
    I googled the taxation rates in scandinavian countries (https://taxfoundation.org/how-scandinavian-countries-pay-their-government-spending/):

    -Their income tax rates are comparable to the US because, while most are higher than the US, the taxation rates in those countries are more flat and less progressive like the US
    -Those countries have a far lower corporate tax rate.


    "I'd like full automated communism in an ideal world where mankind works for mankind's interests as a whole, on bettering the lives of as many as possible. Money just wouldnt be involved in my ideal world."

    How would you preform economic calculation without money, private property, or trade? How do you know the true cost, demand, productivity, etc of products and services? How do you measure the creation of collectively owned wealth, or measure the loss of collectively owned wealth without money, private property, or trade?

    I know the three questions are incredibly similar, but I want to ensure I was clear. Also I'm genuinely interested because I've never actually read a response to this question in any context.
  13. Somewhere_
    May 29th, 2017 11:24 AM
    Somewhere_
    So you aren't a socialist? Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden all have economic freedom index ratings little above the US or a little below the US.

    Im not familiar with Jeremy Corbyn, but from I saw on Wikipedia, he is interested in nationalizing only public utilities. I dont see how you can be a socialist, but still believe in private property for a great majority of the country's industries. Although, I suppose its fair because it isnt your ideal state.

    What about your ideal form of government and economy? What kind of socialism or communism is ideal for you?
  14. Somewhere_
    May 29th, 2017 10:45 AM
    Somewhere_
    in case you are wondering why I'm not replying to your post: its because i just wanted an example you provided it lol. Nothing more nothing less.

    But I do have a question that doesnt relate to the thread. What kind of socialism do you believe in?
  15. Klippy
    May 27th, 2017 10:35 AM
    Klippy
    Ahh, I wish we still had screenies of that. I think I do on my old computer, but those were great times.

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